NEED HELP!!!

Discussion in 'Octopus Care' started by scully54, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. scully54

    scully54 Pygmy Octopus Registered

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    I just got my octopus today and after five minutes in the tank he went in the filter and went under the pumps box. I dont want to use a stisk and crush him and I am not putting my hand in the water.do you think he will come out in the tank. I just hope he is ok. :sad: pleas i need help very very very very bad. :boohoo:
     
  2. cthulhu77

    cthulhu77 Titanites Supporter

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    Ok...so, you have turned off the pump, I hope ???? Which type of filter has he wormed into???
     
  3. scully54

    scully54 Pygmy Octopus Registered

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    .....have not turned off the pump (didn't want him and everything
    else - the live rock to die...?....)
    ...as we're new at this, don't know what type pump it is..it's whatever
    came with the 24 gallon nanocube ...
    ...we do have all the lights turned off....just now took a flashlight
    to hopefully see.......he is moving down there at the bottom...
    ..there's like a pump that's hooked up to a box that's at the bottom..
    of course he's under that box...he got his arms wrapped around the three cords......again, at least he's moving so I know he's alive...
    .....I had tried putting a stick down there thinking that he might wrap around it and I could pull him out..that didn't work and I got concerned
    about jabbing him......hopefully he'll get hungry and come out on his own.....
     
  4. DocFrye

    DocFrye O. vulgaris Registered

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    Okay, can I ask...... you say that you are new to this. How long has your 24 gallon Nanocube been set up and been running (i.e. cycling?)
     
  5. cthulhu77

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    :confused:

    so, you got an octopus why?????? It sounds like you have an awful amount of groundwork to cover here...but, let's solve the immediate problem.
    The octo is going to have to be removed from the bottom of the filter. This is probably going to require some dismantling of parts and pieces, as well as a late night trip to your nearest fish store or friend with a salt tank to provide a home for the octo when you do get him out, until you can proof the tank completely.
    Unless it is a dwarf, a 24 will be too small of a tank, so you might want to rethink the whole octo-purchase thing now.
    best, and keep us posted,

    greg
     
  6. DocFrye

    DocFrye O. vulgaris Registered

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    Where are you located, scully54? Maybe someone on the board is local and ready to house your octo (possibly temporarilly - or long term if you are not prepared for the tremendous amount of work needed to keep octos.)
     
  7. a rabid squid

    a rabid squid GPO Supporter

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    whats your problem with putting your hand in the water? seiously dude, its not that big of a deal just do it and save your octo. if its that simple
     
  8. William Tyson

    William Tyson Vampyroteuthis Registered

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    ditto, if you live near me, ill stick my hand in there and get it out, i promise you, unless it is a blue ring, which i hope its not, then it should not hurt you
     
  9. Nancy

    Nancy Titanites Staff Member Moderator

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    Turning off the pump for a while isn't going to hurt your live rock. What's going on since you last posted?

    Nancy
     
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    That poor octopus. . . . . .
     
  11. Armstrong

    Armstrong Vampyroteuthis Registered

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    You do seem very new to this.

    I wouldn't ever recommend keeping an Octopus if your new because they require so much knowledge and responsibility before ever keeping one.

    For your problem, of course turning off the filter would do best for now. And then trying to get him out. There's nothing wrong with sticking your hand in the tank. If you think an octopus is poisonous or dangerous to touch, then you need to study more their biology. There harmless, and saving your octopus would be best. 24 gallon tank is much too small for an octopus. I doubt you have a Dwarf. I hope you return this animal to a nearest pet store before it dies and think about them more often before getting a new one. You need to study more. And also, try to get a filter that an octopus can't climb into. There very curious.
     
  12. scully54

    scully54 Pygmy Octopus Registered

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    ....hey all....for some reason he came out on his own...hungry I guess...
    I got him out with a net and he's now safely back at the pet shop...
    ....as to some of you, thank you for the helpful tips and good advise..

    ..as to a few others of you - thanks for the critizism and bashing, like
    I'm a total loser for attempting to try to keep him....
    .....I'm glad it worked out for him that he's now safe....believe me,
    before I attempt it again, I will be an expert like the few of you who
    bashed me......
     
  13. Nancy

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    Hey Sculley,

    Glad all this had a happy ending. I hope you go on to learn more and set up a nice octo tank where your little bimac can have a nice life. Be sure to let us know when that happens.

    Hope you told your LFS what you learned. They shouldn't have been selling the octo to someone with a nanoreef - they should have advised you better.

    Nancy
     
  14. cthulhu77

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    Sculley, I don't think anyone meant to "bash" you...but Nancy is correct, why did they sell you something that you weren't ready for? It might be time to switch shops.

    Honestly, the whole program that is listed under "ceph care" is from those of us that have had problems in the past, and had to solve them, before a site like Tonmo was around...read the articles by Nancy, Colin, and the others...it will only help you out in the end.

    Once again, best,

    greg
     
  15. Armstrong

    Armstrong Vampyroteuthis Registered

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    Well, just incase...

    I wasn't bashing you, just giving you some advice on what you should do before ever keeping an octopus again. Just do lots of research and you should be fine nextime. I recommend reading the "ceph care" section of this site. Your not a loser, you've just learned from a mistake. And a little help wont hurt.
     
  16. Jean

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    Scully don't shoot the messengers! In many cases they were giving you advice based on experience and a love of the animal. In case I was one of those you thought were "bashing" you, my qualifications are as follows!

    12 years working in a public aquarium holding 2 species of octopus, 1 species of sepiolid (plus inumerable other inverts and fish), Nearly completed PhD where I held live ommastrephid squid in captivity. Supervision of grad students holding sepiolids and octopus, research assistant to Dr George Jackson, where we held squid and sepiolids. Many of the other people on this list have similar (or better!) qualifications including those who held octopus/cuttlefish at home for longer than their natural life span.

    You asked for advice and got it, sometimes advice isn't what we want to hear...especially if it's different to what we have done! For eg Steve O'Shea advised me that the tanks I was holding my baby squid in were all wrong (after I'd spent a considerable amount of my research budget on them :hmm: !) so we got them changed!

    Sorry if I upset you but............your wee friend needs the best possible care he can get, after all a tank of any sort is not a natural environment for them and it's our responsibility to get it right. Do keep visiting here and asking questions (we all do!) this is a fun site with HEAPS of info and experience to be shared....you are :welcome: here....can you post pics of your friend????

    Cheers

    Jean
     
  17. Armstrong

    Armstrong Vampyroteuthis Registered

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    Totally agree with you Jean, and in my opinion...keeping an animal such an octopus which IS an exotic sea creature requires as least a month of research on their biology, and capivity. But, you've out-done me with the research, lol. I havent had 12 years experience yet, but iv done enough research and experience to give some advice to new users or new pet-keepers which im sure many others on here have also had...mabye better like Nancy and Colin. I don't know when im getting my octopus, hopefully in another 6 months or so.
     
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    Jean Colossal Squid Supporter

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    Hi Armstrong,

    Slow and steady wins the race every time!!!!

    I was very lucky I joined an aquarium attached to a University research facility, where they have now been keeping octopus (etc!!) for 74 years on display to the public and 101 years for research..........mega quantities of what to do and more importantly what not to do :lol:

    Cheers

    J
     
  19. DocFrye

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    I certainly didn't intend to "bash" you, but if that is the way you want to take it, I won't argue. Pets are not toys. They are living creatures. How one plays with one's pets shows a lot about one's character and comitment.

    David M. Frye, DVM
     
  20. William Tyson

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    sry didnt mean to bash, glad the octo is safe
     

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