Greenpeace are at it again!

chrono_war01 said:
I will write to him, but he might just send it off to the Trash Bin.

Send one every day. Email and regular mail (because it's all to easy to block somebody :wink: ). Much easier when you know someone who can send letters for free from work. Ask your friends to do the same.
And remember that you can create endless accounts on Hotmail (and other such providers).

He's bound to read one in the end. Refrain from abusive language, never goes very far... trust me, i know :hmm:
Best way is to prep a letter detailling your impressions about that bottom trawling stuff (note: don't use "stuff" either) and making a constructed reflection (i.e. including the fishing industry's point of view and the fact that you can understand why they do that but disagreeing with it all the while). Then send it to :oshea: for review (he likes the extra work) and get ready to flood Mr Symmans' mailbox.

TPOTH
 
:biggrin2:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3314782a7693,00.html

Injunction against Greenpeace fails
16 June 2005
By ELEANOR WILSON

A Nelson fishing company has failed to obtain a High Court injunction to stop Greenpeace protesters approaching one of its trawlers.

Amaltal accused activists aboard Greenpeace's Rainbow Warrior of piracy, claiming they deliberately damaged its deep-sea trawler Ocean Reward during protests last week.

Greenpeace spokesman Dean Baigent-Mercer said Amaltal, part-owned by Nelson company Talley's Fisheries Ltd, had twice applied for a High Court injunction since the clash more than 550km offshore in the Tasman Sea last week, but had been unsuccessful on both occasions.

"Amaltal has twice sought an injunction to stop the Rainbow Warrior from going near the Ocean Reward," he said. "Twice we have been happy to provide undertakings and information to the court which shows that we are not intending to go near the Ocean Reward."

The undertakings included that Greenpeace would not interfere with the Ocean Reward's fishing operation or go within 50m of it at sea, he said.

Activists prevented four trawls over two days last week as part of a campaign against bottom-trawling.

Amaltal's latest bid to have the injunction enforced, in the High Court in Auckland on Tuesday, failed when Greenpeace told the court its yacht was heading back to Nelson.

"We hope that Amaltal will now put its efforts into addressing the destruction caused by its activities to the marine life at the bottom of the sea," Baigent-Mercer said.

Amaltal managing director Andrew Talley said Greenpeace's undertakings meant the injunction was no longer necessary.

He said Amaltal was still considering whether to apply for compensation for thousands of dollars of damage it claims was deliberately caused to the Ocean Reward's net by Greenpeace.

"We're still considering the issue in respect of damages," said Talley.

Talley told reporters last week the trawler was being "attacked by a bunch of hairies and hippies with knives and gaffs".

Greenpeace denied the claim, saying the damage was not deliberate and happened when activists tied a liferaft to the net to prevent it being deployed.

The protesters claimed the trawler crew responded by spraying them with high-pressure water hoses and firing potato "bullets" at them from "spud guns".

The Greenpeace boat and its 24-strong crew have spent nearly three weeks at sea campaigning for a moratorium on bottom-trawling in international waters.
 
Go Greenpeace, go and tie barrels to their nets and top them from destroying the world's oceans. Now, my friends say that bottom trawling is like justifying that blowing up New York does nto affect humans becuase the Saharen Desert is unharmed. Right?
 
Heaven's; these are Questions and Answers discussed in parliament. Check out the end bit (but follow the thread!!!).

...........
3. JEANETTE FITZSIMONS (Co-Leader—Green) to the Minister of Conservation: What conservation goals led the Government to end the logging of indigenous forests on Crown-managed land?

Hon CHRIS CARTER (Minister of Conservation): The Government protected indigenous forests on Crown-owned and managed land to help meet the goals of the New Zealand biodiversity strategy. These included maintaining and restoring a full range of remaining natural habitats and ecosystems to a healthy, functioning condition.

Jeanette Fitzsimons: Does the biodiversity strategy also apply under the sea; if so, will he agree that the same goals should apply to the equally ancient underwater forests of tall corals and their multitude of associated species, and what discussion has he had with his colleague the Minister of Fisheries about ways of protecting them?

Hon CHRIS CARTER: Indeed it does, and, in fact, in 2004 the Government adopted a strategy to protect deep-water biodiversity.

David Parker: What other actions has the Government taken to meet the conservation goals of the biodiversity strategy?

Hon CHRIS CARTER: We have increased funding for the Department of Conservation by over 40 percent, enabling it to tackle weed and pest problems better than ever before. We have embarked on the most ambitious island pest eradication programme found anywhere in the world. Large new areas of forest, high-country, and coastal land have been protected as public conservation land. Eleven new marine reserves have been created, and 2 percent of our exclusive economic zone is now in some form of marine protection.

Jim Peters: What goal motivated the Government to give the West Coast councils $120 million of taxpayers’ money to cut taxpayer-owned forests, yet that Minister denied many SILNA landowners compensation for the Government’s denial of their right to realise the economic value of the lands awarded to them by this House in 1906?

Hon CHRIS CARTER: I know that it was National that exempted the SILNA forests from an amendment to the Forests Act in 1993. By the time National was thrown out of office in 1999, it had not resolved the issues. This Government adopted a comprehensive policy for SILNA forests in 2002.

David Parker: Has the Minister seen any reports that some of the indigenous forests protected since 1999 could be at risk?

Hon CHRIS CARTER: Indeed I have. I have seen a recent report that Don Brash and Nick Smith had called for resumption of logging of the West Coast native forests, which were protected under the Labour Government.

Jeanette Fitzsimons: Is it not true that conservation goals would be assisted better if his strategy required all fishing methods to undergo environmental impact assessment, as the Greens have proposed, and what representations is his department making to advance this?

Hon CHRIS CARTER: My department—indeed, the Government—is very committed to the defence of New Zealand’s unique marine biodiversity. Different Government departments continue to collaborate closely on that issue.

Jeanette Fitzsimons: Has he seen the recent Greenpeace photos in the New Zealand Herald today, and on television on Sunday, in which New Zealand fishing vessels are shown hauling up, then dumping over the side, giant corals and rare sea creatures, and how long does he think it is acceptable for that practice to continue?

Hon CHRIS CARTER: Indeed I have seen those photographs, but I am pleased to announce that, today, my colleague David Benson-Pope, the Minister of Fisheries, announced that New Zealand, together with Chile and Australia, would lead development of a regional fisheries management agreement that will give greater protection to high-seas biodiversity.

Jeanette Fitzsimons: Returning to New Zealand’s economic zone, rather than the high seas, does he agree with marine biologist Dr Steve O’Shea, of Auckland University, as reported in today’s New Zealand Herald, who describes bottom trawling as absolute annihilation, and goes on to say: “There should be some urgency. For God’s sake, let’s do something practical now before it’s too late.”; if so, what will he do in New Zealand waters?

Hon CHRIS CARTER: Indeed I do agree with those comments, but as there is no international proposal at the moment for a complete moratorium on bottom trawling, New Zealand is working closely with Australia to develop a regional agreement.
 
Here's a very interesting thread!!

http://www.vnv.org.au/Articles/Fish.htm

Just the intro below; it is followed by numerous links (very interesting information) that I cannot post online.

SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH FISHING?

By David Ogilvie
Introduction
"So what is wrong with fishing?", I hear you sceptically ask. Well, in my opinion, there's not much actually right with it. There are so many issues associated with modern fishing practices that it actually makes it difficult to justify the consumption of fish and seafood at all. Globally, the growing human population and seemingly insatiable desire for seafood has come at a great cost. Studies have shown that two-thirds of the world's fish stocks are being fished unsustainably. Many species are disappearing altogether and once thriving fisheries are collapsing.

People who reduce consumption of red meat often opt for fish and seafood as a 'healthy' alternative. The fact is that there is NO evidence implying that fish or seafood is necessary for optimal individual health. Omega-3 essential fatty acids can be obtained from other sources, and the believed dietary benefits of fish and seafood are questionable when their fat and cholesterol content, and often high levels of heavy metals and other contaminants, are considered.

On this page we outline the current status of fisheries around the world, cover some of the issues surrounding both commercial and recreational fishing, and discuss fish and human health.
 
... and this, dating back to 2002!! Bottom Trawling is not new news!

BBC NEWS | In Depth | Boston 2002 | Deep fish 'trawled to oblivion'

By BBC News Online's Jonathan Amos in Boston

Deep-sea trawlers are destroying populations of fish and other creatures in the ocean at an alarming rate, according to research presented at the American Association for the Advancement of Science annual meeting in Boston.

In the Southern Ocean lush forests of invertebrates have been literally stripped from the top of seamounts

Dr Callum Roberts
Fishermen are now using military sonar to hunt in the deep ocean, but the slow life cycles of the species that live hundreds of metres below the surface mean their populations will collapse if they are exposed to industrial-scale exploitation.

"In the deep sea, fishing gear is encountering species and habitats that are much less able to bounce back from the effects of fishing than those that live in the fast lane of the shallow seas," Dr Callum Roberts, from the University of York, UK, told the meeting.

"The pace of life in the deep sea is literally glacial. Species grow extremely slowly and they live to extraordinary ages, so, for example, the orange roughy can reach 150 years old and they don't reproduce until they are in their mid-20s to mid-30s."

Short-lived catches

Licensing fishing or introducing quota schemes to preserve stocks was unlikely to be effective, said Dr Roberts. Marine reserves, he believes, are the only answer. The problem is that deep-sea fisheries are in international waters and getting many countries to agree to a proposal that would close off thousands of square kilometres of ocean to trawlers will be extremely difficult.

"What is more, the move to deep-water fishing is being encouraged by governments who are offering subsidies to alleviate the hardship that has been brought on by the collapse of shallow-water fish stocks," Dr Roberts said.

"There is a worldwide scramble to exploit deep-sea fish. Forty percent of the world's trawling grounds are now waters that are deeper than the edge of the continental shelves."

The early rewards from deep-sea fishing can be extremely high. The orange roughy fisheries that took off in the 1980s around seamounts in the waters off New Zealand and Australia were said to be producing catches of 60 tonnes from a 20 minute trawl.

'Lush forests'

"But the decline came very swiftly and today there is less than 20% of the roughy there were 10 or 15 years ago," Dr Roberts said.

The impact of fishing in the deep sea goes far beyond just removing the fish. Fisheries are concentrated into places that have the greatest biological significance; places like seamounts and canyon walls where materials that are wafted in on currents support rich communities of species - corals, sponges, seafans and hydroids.

Deep-sea fishing is said to be inflicting terrible collateral damage on these species as trawl meshes plough through the water.

"Off the East Coast of North America bizarre and beautiful fields of glass sponges have been trawled to oblivion. In the Southern Ocean, 'lush forests' of invertebrates have been literally stripped from the top of seamounts by trawlers targeting orange roughy."
 
Chile commits to Sth Pacific fisheries management

Chile commits to Sth Pacific fisheries management
Tuesday, 14 June 2005, 1:20 pm
Press Release: New Zealand Government
14 June 2005
Chile commits to South Pacific fisheries management

Chile has committed to join with New Zealand and Australia to lead the development of a regional fisheries management agreement that will help protect high seas biodiversity, Fisheries Minister David Benson-Pope announced today.

“Chile is a key coastal state in the eastern South Pacific,” said Mr Benson-Pope. “At a meeting held last week with New Zealand officials, the Chilean Under-Secretary of Fisheries committed to join with New Zealand and Australia to develop a Regional Fisheries Management Organisation to cover non-tuna fisheries in the South Pacific region. This includes species like orange roughy, alfonsino, oreo dories and jack mackerel.

“It is vital that we secure international buy-in and corporation so that management measures are effective and binding on all states with vessels fishing in the area," said Mr Benson-Pope. “A key role of the new organisation will be to manage the adverse impacts of fishing activity on biodiversity, including the seafloor.

"Bottom trawling can take a heavy toll on marine life in vulnerable areas and it is in everybody’s interests to improve management of the practice throughout the world.”

New Zealand and Australia began taking action early this year to establish the new regional fisheries management organisation, which will plug gaps in the legal framework for the conservation and management of high seas fisheries.

“The most practical solution globally to problems caused by deep sea bottom trawling is to have more effective management of high seas areas,” Mr Benson-Pope said. “New Zealand places a great deal of significance on fisheries cooperation in the Pacific and Southern Oceans. Our desire is to work with other nations in the region to promote international ‘best practice’ in fisheries management, and the protection of the environment."

The next stage will come in February 2006, when New Zealand will host the first inter-governmental meeting with interested states, to discuss the establishment of the new organisation.
 
David Benson-Pope said:
The next stage will come in February 2006, when New Zealand will host the first inter-governmental meeting with interested states, to discuss the establishment of the new organisation.

What I don't understand is why this has to get bogged down in bureaucracy. The evidence is there. The fishing practice is destructive! Why cannot they just meet around a table right now and thrash this out!!

I am in no way criticising the Minister. This Government has an extraordinary record when it comes to environmental matters. However, despite it being a very-promising development, the crisis is here and now, and the matter must be dealt with with the same degree or urgency.
 
From France
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/15/opinion/ednikita.php

It's the least we can do for our world
Nikita Lopoukhine International Herald Tribune

THURSDAY, JUNE 16, 2005

There have always been protected areas, though not always for the same reasons. Robin Hood poached deer in the Royal Sherwood Forest, an area protected for royal hunting parties.

The Yellowstone and Banff National Parks in North America were set up in the 19th century for the enjoyment of ordinary people, though the needs of residents were not taken into account.

More recently, the notion of conserving areas has been extended to include not only nature, but also the way of life of the people living in them. In many parts of the world, the lands on which indigenous and traditional peoples depend for their survival are now protected.

Six categories of protection are recognized around the world, from a strict-protection regime to one devoted to the sustainable use of resources. Each meets the World Conservation Union definition of a protected area and is a legitimate approach to integrating conservation with other uses.

Such areas, of course, are good for protecting nature. Yet it is not science alone that drives their establishment. Emotion is part of the equation: People feel strongly about the beauty of a landscape or the possible loss of species like the grizzly bear.

More and more, people are embracing protected areas as a tool to ensure that their lands and lifestyles are both protected for future generations. This has resulted in the establishment of more than 100,000 protected areas around the world, covering nearly 12 percent of the world's land area. The percentage is even higher if it includes privately protected areas or community-based conservation zones.

Yet less than half of 1 percent of the world's oceans are similarly protected, despite strong evidence of the value of protected marine areas for restocking depleted fisheries. At the same time, deep-sea trawling is destroying productive areas of the world; species as yet unnamed are disappearing and important fisheries are collapsing one after another.

Despite the world's seeming enthusiasm for the idea of protected areas, the reality is less encouraging. Budgets are stagnating, infrastructure is collapsing, marine ecosystems are woefully underrepresented and the protected values are increasingly at risk from threats that are global as much as local. In addition, climate change is poised to cause dramatic changes in protected areas.

More than 50 percent of the world's population lives in an urban setting. The human experience of the natural world is declining, and the protection of nature is foundering in the face of poverty and loss of livelihoods.

There is no question that donors and governments must respond to the Millennium Development Goals adopted by the United Nations, which are intended to combat poverty. Unfortunately, this is often done to the detriment of conservation, notwithstanding the clear statement by the UN secretary general, Kofi Annan, that "Environmental sustainability is the foundation on which strategies for achieving all the other Millennium Development Goals are based."

In effect, if we ignore the health of ecosystems, our efforts elsewhere are doomed.

Protected areas are important to the world and the people living within and around them. They provide ecosystem services such as clean water for communities or cities like New York. They contribute to human health by offering mental and physical exercise. They store carbon, and thus mitigate the global warming effects of gas emissions. Protected areas also serve as a buffer against the impacts of extreme storm events, like the 2004 Asian tsunami.

The Biodiversity Convention signed by more than 180 governments recognizes protected areas for their value in the conservation of biodiversity. The convention provides a blueprint for renewing the fervor that initially built up the world's protected area estate.

This week, the Italian government is sponsoring a meeting here of an international group of experts, policy makers, scientists and donors. With financing in place, the mandate of protected areas can be met and targets achieved, supporting the UN millennium goals and reflecting a commitment to significantly reduce biodiversity loss by 2010.

If we get it right, there will be no need for a future Robin Hood to steal from the rich to give to the poor.

There have always been protected areas, though not always for the same reasons. Robin Hood poached deer in the Royal Sherwood Forest, an area protected for royal hunting parties.

The Yellowstone and Banff National Parks in North America were set up in the 19th century for the enjoyment of ordinary people, though the needs of residents were not taken into account.

More recently, the notion of conserving areas has been extended to include not only nature, but also the way of life of the people living in them. In many parts of the world, the lands on which indigenous and traditional peoples depend for their survival are now protected.

Six categories of protection are recognized around the world, from a strict-protection regime to one devoted to the sustainable use of resources. Each meets the World Conservation Union definition of a protected area and is a legitimate approach to integrating conservation with other uses.

Such areas, of course, are good for protecting nature. Yet it is not science alone that drives their establishment. Emotion is part of the equation: People feel strongly about the beauty of a landscape or the possible loss of species like the grizzly bear.

More and more, people are embracing protected areas as a tool to ensure that their lands and lifestyles are both protected for future generations. This has resulted in the establishment of more than 100,000 protected areas around the world, covering nearly 12 percent of the world's land area. The percentage is even higher if it includes privately protected areas or community-based conservation zones.

Yet less than half of 1 percent of the world's oceans are similarly protected, despite strong evidence of the value of protected marine areas for restocking depleted fisheries. At the same time, deep-sea trawling is destroying productive areas of the world; species as yet unnamed are disappearing and important fisheries are collapsing one after another.

Despite the world's seeming enthusiasm for the idea of protected areas, the reality is less encouraging. Budgets are stagnating, infrastructure is collapsing, marine ecosystems are woefully underrepresented and the protected values are increasingly at risk from threats that are global as much as local. In addition, climate change is poised to cause dramatic changes in protected areas.

More than 50 percent of the world's population lives in an urban setting. The human experience of the natural world is declining, and the protection of nature is foundering in the face of poverty and loss of livelihoods.

There is no question that donors and governments must respond to the Millennium Development Goals adopted by the United Nations, which are intended to combat poverty. Unfortunately, this is often done to the detriment of conservation, notwithstanding the clear statement by the UN secretary general, Kofi Annan, that "Environmental sustainability is the foundation on which strategies for achieving all the other Millennium Development Goals are based."

In effect, if we ignore the health of ecosystems, our efforts elsewhere are doomed.

Protected areas are important to the world and the people living within and around them. They provide ecosystem services such as clean water for communities or cities like New York. They contribute to human health by offering mental and physical exercise. They store carbon, and thus mitigate the global warming effects of gas emissions. Protected areas also serve as a buffer against the impacts of extreme storm events, like the 2004 Asian tsunami.

The Biodiversity Convention signed by more than 180 governments recognizes protected areas for their value in the conservation of biodiversity. The convention provides a blueprint for renewing the fervor that initially built up the world's protected area estate.

This week, the Italian government is sponsoring a meeting here of an international group of experts, policy makers, scientists and donors. With financing in place, the mandate of protected areas can be met and targets achieved, supporting the UN millennium goals and reflecting a commitment to significantly reduce biodiversity loss by 2010.

If we get it right, there will be no need for a future Robin Hood to steal from the rich to give to the poor.

(Nikita Lopoukhine, formerly director general of national parks in Canada, is chair of the IUCN World Commission on Protected Areas.)
 
Wouldn't you know it!! Our dear friend, Owen Symmans, is ex meatworks (as in he has absolutely no experience with fisheries!!!!)

When he was with the meatworks he made this marvelous statement (in red in the passage below). Sound familiar?
Environment Canterbury chairman Richard Johnson said it was up to the dairy industry to clean up its act if it wanted to promote its products as clean and green. Dairy Board industry relations manager Owen Symmans said a set of industry guidelines were being prepared that would assist farmers to mitigate environmental impacts. "The industry recognises the need to be a good corporate citizen and be aware of the environment."

From the following link:
http://www.fishing.net.nz/news/index.cfm?fullarticle=219&newsid=219

DAIRYING KILLING FISH, SAY ANGLERS -
10 April 2001
Canterbury's reputation as a fishing paradise is under threat from farm pollution killing fish in rivers, fishermen say. The New Zealand Fish and Game Council is calling for urgent action to regulate the rapidly expanding dairy industry in Canterbury which it blames, in part, for one of the worst fishing seasons on record. Hunting and fishing drew an estimated 100,000 tourists last year, who spent more, proportionally, than other visitors, according to a New Zealand Tourism Board survey. Fishing is also popular with locals, with more than 14,000 fishing licence holders in the region.

North Canterbury Fish and Game regional manager Ross Millichamp said there was now virtually no trout fishing in Canterbury's lowland streams, which were running dry because of drought and over-abstraction by irrigators. "The low-country trout fishing in coastal streams has been dreadful and the salmon fishing has been rubbish this year. "It's probably half of last year, and last year was not particularly good. It's easily the worst run we've measured in recent years," he said.

Fish and Game director Bryce Johnson said fishing was under threat from the dairy industry which was discharging huge amounts of effluent into South Island waterways. "The current number of cows in the South Island are producing as much sewage as 10 million people," Mr Johnson said. South Island cow numbers were up more than 300 per cent in the last 10 years, with milk solids production up 400 per cent, he said, quoting Dairy Board figures. More than 90 dairy conversions are under way in Canterbury. "This is a colossal change in farming practice and we're seeing a definite increase in pollution which is being inadequately managed by dairy farmers and regional councils," Mr Johnson said.

Fishing guide Patti Magnano, who immigrated from the United States 13 years ago, said high-country streams were becoming crowded. Locals, unable to fish damaged waterways near Christchurch, were joining tourists flown in by helicopter, leading to over-fishing of mountain streams. "The pressure on the high-country streams has become extreme," she said. "It is not sustainable with that many anglers." Malcolm Bell, who owns the Complete Angler shop in Christchurch, said it was embarrassing when tourists asked if they would find fish nearby. "You know what? They can't," he said. The Selwyn River, which had 60,000 trout in it in the 1940s, was typical of many lowland waterways suffering because of too much irrigation, he said. "The fishery has been virtually eliminated because there's not enough water," Mr Bell said. "When I went to the Selwyn last there were no fish and I was horrified by the smell."

Environment Canterbury chairman Richard Johnson said it was up to the dairy industry to clean up its act if it wanted to promote its products as clean and green. Dairy Board industry relations manager Owen Symmans said a set of industry guidelines were being prepared that would assist farmers to mitigate environmental impacts. "The industry recognises the need to be a good corporate citizen and be aware of the environment."
The Press 29/3/01
 
The least I could do

Hello Mr Symmans,

I am writing to you to express my point of view regarding deep-sea trawling and its impacts. I am passionate about the sea and the creatures inhabiting it. I see the practice of deep-sea trawling as a rather ruthless and non-selective method of fishing that needs to be reviewed.

I understand that a lot of people rely on this practice for their living and I am not about to say "No Fishing". What I am saying is that we need to be up-front about this fishing process and how destructive it is to the marine environment.

The obvious consolation for those working in the fishing industry is to provide new opportunities for them like Aquaculture, where their interests and experience would be valuable.

As the sea-floor is being destroyed you are eliminating not only the fish stocks, of these often-long-lived species, but annihilating the breeding grounds, feeding grounds and spawning grounds of prey items as well!!!

Bottom trawling is often compared to clear-felling of forests yet the process is allowed to continue? Why?

I am a 24 year old masters student who has been made aware of the disturbing processes going on in New Zealand waters. We need to do something about this NOW, not next year or the year later, otherwise as more and more of the public are being made aware of this method of fishing and its destructive nature, you may well see boycotts to the eating of deep-sea fish species which would have an immediate impact on fisherman and their livelihoods.

Why are you letting the obviousness of this destruction continue? I hope it is not a matter of "out of sight, out of mind" because that would be truly sad.

C'm'on everyone, we've all got some way of making a point, now's the time!!!
 
Thanks Jason!! An excellent letter! Others, please do write to him. He might be, given his dairy industry background, legitimately ignorant of fishing industry practices. Perhaps he's not deliberately lying - perhaps he truly believes what he is saying. You might just sway this man.

Ask him, in light of overwhelming evidence, would his industry consider a voluntary moratorium on high-seas bottom trawling. That would be one way of saving grace (and enable them to crawl from this very deep hole that they have dug for themselves, and retain some dignity).

Pride is a terrible thing!
 
Maybe he doesn't know much about fishing practices, but maybe he does and he's just lying...or maybe he does know it but is pressured to keep the fisherfolks happy so that the dough can continue to roll into the goverment coffers.
 
Well said Jason!

Regardless of the environmental destruction caused by bottom-trawling the fisher-folk themselves are in trouble. The only reason there are trawlers operating in international waters is that fisheries closer in have been depleted. These days fishermen have to steam further and further, trawl for longer and longer just to cover overheads. I for one would be interested in the nationalities and pay-rates of the fishermen filmed by Greenpeace throwing that big piece of coral overboard. But that's a whole other story.

The point is, that if this method of fishing continues the industry will eventually collapse, and when that happens (and it will happen) everyone will have lost.
 

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