Dwarf Octopus-good for beginners?

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Hello all,
Glad to be here as I have really felt myself being drawn to the aquatic side of things.
I am going to be really new to the saltwater world and am looking to eventually get into the ceph side of the aquarium world. I have kept and maintained freshwater fish and have greatly enjoyed it for several years.
I have already done quite a bit of research and reading in regards to what it takes to own an octopus but am looking for advice.
I have never kept a saltwater tank and so far my plan (after talking to the local saltwater aquarium store closest to me) is to start out with a 29 gal biocube. I plan to start out with half live rock and live water to get it going and then allow another 3 months before I add anything. Then after that I plan to practice with a few hardier fish species until I get a good feel for saltwater. From there I was suggested to then try at the dwarf octopus species.
I am aware that they are nocturnal and life span is roughly 8 months on the long side.
That said-I am always looking for any and all advice that may help me on this long goal as well as any suggested reading material or articles. I did find and purchase the 'cephalopod for the home aquarium' book.
 

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Also-is there a lists of possibly tank mates to keep along with the dwarf species? I've only seen the lists of those for larger octopus. I'm assuming its similar but figure I'd ask that as well.
Thank you so much.
 

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The My List of Successful Occupants is pretty much universal and you should have not problems with any of these inverts.

Finding a dwarf species will be the biggest challenge. O. mercatoris (Caribbean) has been our most common dwarf but few have been available for a couple of years. In the past, the best sources have been acquired as bycatch from live rock farmers and occasionally indirectly from crabbers.
 

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The My List of Successful Occupants is pretty much universal and you should have not problems with any of these inverts.

Finding a dwarf species will be the biggest challenge. O. mercatoris (Caribbean) has been our most common dwarf but few have been available for a couple of years. In the past, the best sources have been acquired as bycatch from live rock farmers and occasionally indirectly from crabbers.
What about the octopus joubini species? Are they comparable to the Caribbean?
 

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O. joubini is a Caribbean species but we don't see them in the trade. For many years O. mercatoris was labeled O. joubini (partially because of a determination that there was only one dwarf species in the Caribbean, later to be proven definitively incorrect because O. joubini is a small egg species where O. mercatoris is a large egg layer). We MAY have had one O. joubini journaled but the determination was only a guess (albeit likely a good one as location was known, it was a dwarf and it laid small eggs). You may want to look at Pandora's journal. Here is a nice paper discussing the differences between O. mercatoris and O. joubini and here is more specific info on O. mercatoris.
 

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Also-is there a lists of possibly tank mates to keep along with the dwarf species? I've only seen the lists of those for larger octopus. I'm assuming its similar but figure I'd ask that as well.
Thank you so much.
Hi where did you get your octopus?? I'm trying to find one!
 

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Hi where did you get your octopus?? I'm trying to find one!
I have not gotten an octopus yet. I'm doing a lot of preparing first such as looking into what I can plan to keep with one and which species/size (as exact species can be hit and miss) is the best fit for me.
I have noticed that the sites that were offering them earlier don't have them listed on hand- possibly seasonal
 

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Oh
I have not gotten an octopus yet. I'm doing a lot of preparing first such as looking into what I can plan to keep with one and which species/size (as exact species can be hit and miss) is the best fit for me.
I have noticed that the sites that were offering them earlier don't have them listed on hand- possibly seasonal
Oh i see, same thing.. Thank you! Please, let me know if you find one
 

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O. joubini is a Caribbean species but we don't see them in the trade. For many years O. mercatoris was labeled O. joubini (partially because of a determination that there was only one dwarf species in the Caribbean, later to be proven definitively incorrect because O. joubini is a small egg species where O. mercatoris is a large egg layer). We MAY have had one O. joubini journaled but the determination was only a guess (albeit likely a good one as location was known, it was a dwarf and it laid small eggs). You may want to look at Pandora's journal. Here is a nice paper discussing the differences between O. mercatoris and O. joubini and here is more specific info on O. mercatoris.
Another question regarding these dwarf octopus- I have a local saltwater store located that seems capable of working with me to achieve my goal. If they are able to order an octopus in for me down the road is there a recommended best way for transporting it home. I live roughly a 40 minute drive away. Tips?
 

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