Unknown Phylum. Any suggestions?

monty;98349 said:
Is this accepted classification now? Gah, I can't keep track of this stuff; I guess that's why I'm not a real biologist...

WhiteKiboko;98350 said:
Pffft. They make it up as they go along... :smile:

Taxonomists were born to change things, they live to re-write synonymies
and otherwise foul up traditional classifications as best they can. They are truly :evil:

:wink:
 
monty;98349 said:
Fantastic pictures, but TOLweb puts Tremoctopus under Argonautoida, unlike Nixon & Young and Steve's treatise on NZ octopods... what's up with that?

'oida', not 'idae' (Family); there's no change there at all Monty (people have long recognised the relationship between the Tremoctopodidae, Argonautidae and Ocythoidae; probably Alloposidae also). I did not include a superfamilial classification in the memoir (although covered them in this order in the memoir).
Cheers
 
:oops: well, that's why I'm an ignorant computer scientist who just dabbles in biology... Interesting, though... I guess I don't have any books that cover the rationale behind the intermediate-level groups... any recommendations? Or should I just read TOLweb and/or ask naive questions on TONMO? :boohoo: I guess this is a semi-useful reference: Taxonomy - Wikipedia

:band: inna gadda da vida, baby!
 
Mark hit the nail on the head; towards the end of that link you'll find the attached table (copied). There are several supraspecific categories in there that even I have not heard of (everything below family, above genus ... , although I lose no sleep over this (change is to be expected; otherwise we'd all be rubbing sticks together to create fire)).
 

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Thank You guys! Looks like some of the endings used below Superfamily are used for some groups above Superfamily. Is it OK to have duplicate endings?

eg.

Coleoidea, Ammonoidea, Nautiloidea = Subclass' of Class Cephalopoda, the same ending as Superfamily on the chart.

Ammonitina, Ancyloceratina, Phylloceratina = Suborders of Order Ammonitida, the same ending as Subtribe on the chart.

Will I be renaming all the names in my database in the near future? :roll:

Not that subtribe or some of those others below Subfamily are used extensively in cephalopod literature, but still... you may not, but I may loose some shut-eye over this. :wink: (maybe 3 winks)
 
It doesn't appear to be as consistent for animals Kevin; I wouldn't lose any winks over it at all. Cheers
 
Unknown Phylum. Any suggestions?

WOW!! I just spent over 45mins reading this entire thread! I must admit that was quite interesting..! And.... I need coffee :sleeping: and I definitely need to start my Masters ASAP so that I can answer questions relating to some unknown species (cephalopod or not) popping up to the pelagic out of the possible depths...:roll: yup yup!
 
:welcome: Cephalopodia. This was an interesting thread indeed; there are many more like it. I hope that we see you around more often.
 
Cheers Steve!! I'm sure I'll learn heaps from this website.:biggrin2: I just looked at your signature and a reference to Neptune- the funny part is I had a cat whom we named as Neptune just because we live on a boat and he was our kitten(a yr ago) and he used to roam around as if he owned the place!!:roflmao:

Anyhow, back to reading other interesting threads on here:roll:
 
Cephalopodia;105799 said:
WOW!! I just spent over 45mins reading this entire thread! I must admit that was quite interesting..! And.... I need coffee :sleeping: and I definitely need to start my Masters ASAP so that I can answer questions relating to some unknown species (cephalopod or not) popping up to the pelagic out of the possible depths...:roll: yup yup!

:welcome: to TONMO... I wish we saw enough interesting critters come up from the deep that this thread had more frequent activity!
 

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