Tropical fish cosmetic surgery

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  1. Colin

    Colin Colossal Squid Supporter

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    I know that quite a lot of people on TONMO.com also have an interest in fish as well as cephalopods so I am posting this link...

    http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=957

    Its quite detailed about some of the grotesque forms of fish that we see in the trade from time to time... especially flowerhorns and parrots

    It is terrible to see fish treated this way for a hobby, there are plenty species out there with interesting shapes and colours without taking a pair of scissors or a needle to them!
     
  2. William Tyson

    William Tyson Vampyroteuthis Registered

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    Can anyone say Tie-Die octo's

    Cuttles dont need the color stuf they can do that on their own.



    (by the way, this reminds me of the bonzai kitty stuff that was going around some time ago, completly horrible)
     
  3. sorseress

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    This entire thread makes me shudder! :goofysca:
     
  4. Phil

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    That's horrible and barbaric. No animal deserves to be mutilated for viewing pleasure.
     
  5. MuscaDomestica

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    That site was fake, they have fun posting people's complaints about it.

    I work in a pet store and we do sell dyed fish (annoys me a lot...) always tell customers about it 75% of the time they do not buy the fish after I tell them that.
     
  6. mmmccrthy3000

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    I used to work in a pet store that sold dyed fish as well (the purple and orange loaches were hideous); they had a ridiculously high mortality rate at the store (I used to test all the water chems, so I know it wasn't us). It's just so sad...

    Mary
     
  7. main_board

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    Bonsai kitties are fake, but the fish problems are very real. I've subscribed to PFK in the past, and it is an excellent magazine. Very truthful and honest, and rarely inaccurate. They've lead a great campaign to stop this cruelty. Hopefully people will listen more with this coming out.

    Cheers!
     
  8. William Tyson

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    we get the died parrots and the died dannios (Died, not dyed)
    and the mortality rate is much higher then the natural ones, but despite my complaints the market goes on
     
  9. Cephkid

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    We need a barfing emoticon, but this'll have to do. :thumbsdo: :alarm: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream:
     
  10. DHyslop

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    I thought we had one?

    :diamond_trans:
     
  11. Cephkid

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    :lol:
     
  12. tonmo

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    Locking this thread since the page no longer loads, and this appears to have been a hoax...

    EDIT: Unlocking it since it seems it's not a hoax, and is now loading!
     
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    it's back!
     
  14. Thales

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    How do you see this as different from feeder goldfish?
     
  15. sorseress

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    Maybe in a way it isn't , since the goldfish are essentially captives fed to what ever species the "feeder" wants to raise, but when an animal is mutilated to achieve some strange standard of beauty it seems less defensible than assuring that a captive predator has it's prey. Kind of like feeding shore shrimp to cuttles, right?
     
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    I don't see much defense to taking a knife to a fish because you think it will look better, but then again, I don't see much of a defense in breeding feeder fish down so they are genetic messes and keeping them in dreadful, overcrowded overmedicated conditions.

    Danios, parrots and many many FW fish are captive raised, as are feeder goldfish, so I am interested in peoples ethical differentiation between the animals. Is the difference 'beauty' vs 'food'?
     
  17. William Tyson

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    you need food to live, i couldent say the same of beauty
     
  18. DHyslop

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    People do it to their kittens so they don't scratch...

    Dan
     
  19. sorseress

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    We keep animals captive in atrocious conditions (feedlots, chickens with beaks clipped in tiny cages stacked ten high, fed growth hormone and antibiotics to make them bigger and counteract the debilitating effects of their horrendous living conditions, stuff like that). I suspect that those of us who are meat eaters would rather eat only free range animals because at least they live comfortable lives before they end up at the slaughterhouse and we wouldn't be subjected to all the drugs and hormones. Food, as I need cuttle pointed out, is essential to life, and beauty is not. the Joan Rivers of the world subject themselves to all kinds of mutilation in order to achieve their standards of beauty(personally I think she looks like the walking dead) but that's a matter of choice. Captive animals don't get to choose. We make their choices for them, and whether we are keeping them for their food value or their recreational value, if we consider ourselves to be moral and ethical people,we owe it to them to keep them in conditions that are as humane as we can.
     
  20. sorseress

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    If I'd done that maybe I wouldn't always be covered with all those tiny puncture marks! :hmm:
     

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