Tank cycling question

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  1. Cryp_Sis

    Cryp_Sis O. bimaculoides Supporter

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    Hello all,
    I am currently cycling my system in preparation for one O. bimaculoides. The tank contains 10lbs of live aragonite sand (which has been in the tank for 4 weeks), and three damsels (present for two weeks). I have been testing the water daily using API pharmaceuticals saltwater master test kit, but have not yet seen any increase in nitrite, nitrate or ammonia levels. Admittedly I have only been testing for the last week, but surely I won’t have missed the cycle? The water quality has been consistently as follows over the last week:

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  2. Animal Mother

    Animal Mother Architeuthis Supporter

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    There's no way to tell how high the levels will go. As long as there is ammonia present the cycle will continue until you have a stable colony of bacteria.

    You'll need to remove those damsels before you get your octopus if they are in the display tank. By then they will have established their territories and they don't care how big or bad any trespasser is, they will attack it and they can do some serious damage. I assume the under-gravel filter is in the filtration part of your system. If it's in the display your octo will dig it up. Otherwise you sound pretty good to go. Just be aware that you'll need to maintenance the canister filters and vacuum the crushed coral regularly as they can harbor detritus and if they're not taken care of can become nitrate factories.
     
  3. esquid

    esquid Haliphron Atlanticus Supporter

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    Please don't use live fish to cycle a tank, it is cruel and unnecessary. You can create an ammonia spike with grocery store shrimp or old fish food.

    As for how long it takes, that depends on whether or not you inoculated the tank with bacteria. You can do this by adding substrate, filter media or water from an established tank. As for how long, its going to take as long as it takes. For reference I just cycled a small tank using water and sponges from another tank of mine and a big handful of pellet food and it took a full month. If you didn't add bacteria culture then it may take longer.

    The numbers you are looking for aren't specific numbers so much as a big rise in ammonia then a drop to zero. The a big rise in nitrite, as in whole numbers not decimals, and then a drop to zero. If you are getting a reading above zero for either ammonia or nitrite then you tank is not yet cycled. If you want to see this in graph for search "tank cycle" or "nitrogen cycle".

    erin
     
  4. DWhatley

    DWhatley Cthulhu Staff Member Moderator

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    It is likely that running your filteration during your attempts to build ammonia is keeping the tank from coming through a solid cycle. You might add a frozen shrimp and turn off your filters. You will still want water flow so if your filters are integrated into the water exchange, remove the filtration material. If you try to add fish at this stage, thinking you have cycled the tank, you will likely experience what is known as new tank syndrome. If my assumptions are correct, you currently have a minimum amount of bacteria and your filters are handling the existing bioload but this will fail when you try to introduce additional creatures.
     
  5. Cryp_Sis

    Cryp_Sis O. bimaculoides Supporter

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    Thanks so much for the advice. I will remove the damsels, add some frozen shrimp and turn of the filters right away (and then try and be patient!).
    Cheers,
    Lene.
     
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    DWhatley Cthulhu Staff Member Moderator

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    The expression, "nothing good happens quickly in a marine tank" is a motto you need to repeat when you get over anxious.
     

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