should I get a cuttlefish?

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Hi,
I’m a student volunteering at EPA setting up display tanks in Rhode Island, US. There isn’t a whole lot of interesting species in Narragansett Bay, so I started asking around what types of things could I put into these 50 gallon tanks? I guess in the past someone tried putting in an octopus, but apparently the person who was feeding it didn’t understand that you actually had to put on the cover perfectly or else it’ll escape. That lasted a couple of days, but that was before my time. I started looking up octos but i came across cuttlefishes. I’m 16 by the way.
So, getting to the point, I was interested keeping a cuttlefish in one of the tanks. I have 6-50 gallon flow through tanks set up. they're each set at 21 degrees and they should stay constant all the time. I was wondering if I had to worry about anything like ammonia, nitrate, and pH since it’s flow through. Also, I was wondering what size cuttlefish (i was looking at Sepia officinalis) would be best for a 50 gallon tank. The tanks have the same width as height, I think its 1-1/2’ X 1-1/2’ X 3’, but I’m not certain. Also, I have already put down the same gravel in all of the tanks- its “Estes’ Ultra Reef Dolomite”. Would a cuttlefish be able to burrow in that, I’m not sure if it’s too sharp or if it’ll irritate its skin. Also, how clean would I have to keep it? I’m going to school soon and the only days where I could come and check on it (other people can feed it) would be Monday and Friday.
I think it would be awesome to have a cuttlefish for the public to see, though I would have to post a sign on how to act towards it-“don’t move too quickly” or something like that. Would it be wise for me to get a cuttlefish? What would I have to look out for? I know that you have to be careful with cephalopods but what will the flow through sea water do?
Thanks for your help.
-Mike
 

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:welcome: to TONMO.com Mike,
Unfortunately, getting a cuttlefish in the US is not an easy task. There are a few reasons for this, first, there are no cuttlefish species native to the US. Secondly, cuttles don't exactly ship too well, third, most of the imported cuttles are sepia bandensis (see my pic below) which usually arrive as adults which means they don't have long to live.

So, I don't think getting a cuttle is a good idea, an octopus like a O.bimac would be better and can be purchased from www.fishsupply.com
 

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By the way Tony, how do you get the pic small enough to turn it into an avatar?
 

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Hi Mike, :welcome: to TONMO.com

One of the 1st problems you may have is in actually getting a cuttlefish or two for display purposes, as they are not native to the USA and that they are poor travellers are the first two problems. Most imported cuttles die in transport.

However, as you are a student you may be able to order sepia officinalis from the NRCC in Galveston. But they only seel to educational places like unis so you will have to see what you can come up with for that??? http://www.nrcc.utmb.edu/

By flow through do you mean that the water comes directly from the sea to the tank and back or that there is a big filter sump that all tanks are connected to? It is worth doing as many tests on water quality as you can to the system... ammonia and nitrtites are killers so best check anyway.

The best sand would be silver sand, they wont be able to bury in dolomite and if the tank is part of a system then you wont need to worry about pH and Hardness which is why most people use dolomite

Cuttles are really messy so you need to ensure that the tank is kept well clean with no uneaten food and unlike an octopus a cuttle especially a S. officinalis at that temperature will need daily feeds!

Cuttlefish on public display are prone to inking due to getting a fright so you'd maybe want the cuttle tank to be the last tank before the end of the system to deal with the ink... but then the O2 level of the water is going to be lowest by that point so you would need some hefty aeration in the water.. again because 21 is high for S. officinalis

hope this helps for a start
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actually, I was planning on emailing the NRCC to see if they could send me a cuttle. the flowthrough basically takes the seawater from the bay (like 100,000 gal of fresh seawater an hour or something like that) , sends it into a huge filtration system (which needs to be cleaned weekly) and sends it to all of the tanks in the lab. actually, the tanks i have are heated so i could drop the temp (it's good for temps in between 15-25).
Yah, i also had a feeling the gravel wouldn't work either. could I set up more rocks (not too many to hurt itself) so it could hide more? I could also put it in the back row where there is a lot less traffic.
The stuff I have currently is a sea robin, a cunner tank with some crabs and hermit crabs, a crab tank, and a tank with a mantis shrimp in it.
The mantis shrimp alone reeked a bunch of havok :D I guess some have been reported to break aquaria glass; also they eat LIVE food so some people have ethical problems. but this one is a "slasher" (opposed to a "smasher" that break the aquaria and can send their claws like a 22 cal. rifle bullet). they will eat frozen squid though.
thanks a lot! i have to wait a week for my supervisor to get back from a vacation...
mike
 

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I was looking at the NRCC website and was interested in the cuttles that were 20mm-60mm. Would that be ok for my tanks? Too large/small?
would it really be better if I get an octo instead of a cuttlefish?
I was looking at my past posts and relized how terrible I worded them.
I also collected stuff today by saining-the most interesting thing i found was a pipe fish which I really like. so far I have 3 tanks set up out of the 6.
thanks again for all of your help! I hope this will pull through...
Mike
 

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lotus101 said:
actually, I was planning on emailing the NRCC to see if they could send me a cuttle.
What I did is that I told them to ship it to my uni because I was researching info on them and I needed one, I had to give them the uni's shipping address, I also stated that I was a student because I am lol, it worked out allright.If you say that you're just a advanced aquarist they will definelty will not take the time to listen you out, say that you're a student and give them the uni's shipping adress, mind you I got the octo the next day by fedex, quick delivery. :)
 

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I also forgot to add that the fish in the tanks I'm setting up are all from here and the water gets really cold here, down to 0 degrees C (which means my fish love colder water) but we will heat it for the winter. So I'm not sure if I could keep an octo. the tanks are set up in two rows, one facing the hallway, the other facing other fiberglass tanks for experiments. Aeration shouldn't be a problem, in fact I have probably too much!
Could I feed it frozen Krill that we have? Or maybe misids?
thanks again!
 

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colin didn't I have a thread about discussion's on getting a ceph from the nrcc???
...let me check...
 

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also lotus, the nrcc doesn't reply to your e-mail's as soon as possible, they take week's to e-mal back lol, I suggest you give them a call or e-mail john(head director iat the nrcc) john.forsythe@utmb.edu, he'll contact you a.s.a.p. lol.
 

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