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    blake1444 Cuttlefish Registered

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    Greetings. Just got my first tank setup with some live rock and live sand, very excited about it. As it matures I'm going to start getting it ready for an octopus(lifelong dream). I'm completely new to a saltwater tank so any advice will be welcomed. Thanks.
     

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    :welcome:to TONMO!!! (Yes, I'm first!)

    Nice set-up! The best advice I can give is: READ READ READ. These forums are filled with information.
     
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    CaptFish Colossal Squid Staff Member Moderator

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    :welcome: to TONMO.
    Looks like your off to a great start.
     
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    :welcome:
    Your equipment and installations look brand new and impressive! Wish you luck in pursuing your dreams!
     
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    GPO87 Sepia elegans Staff Member Moderator

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    What a nice looking tank. Welcome to Tonmo!
     
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    :welcome: Blake and :welcome::welcome: another Georgian :grin:
    When you have the opportunity, it helps if you will edit your profile and put your title location in the public area as it does not automatically display.

    You probably are not going to like my suggestion but please take your time cycling your tank. A new tank needs to be actively cycled for a minimum of 3 months even though your LSF will tell you it is ready long before that. A new SW keeper needs at least 6 months of getting a saltwater thumb and a full year is the better time. I know that sounds long but there are two syndromes we like to avoid being part of the cephalopod experience, "New Tank Syndrome" and "Nothing good EVER happens quickly in a saltwater tank" (I didn't make these up - Google them - :wink:).

    It looks like you've had a pretty good coach to start you off. One additional piece of equipment you will need is a skimmer. You will need to be aware of the height requirements when you look at them and one that needs minimum clearance to clean the waste cup. The other thing you will have to make is a top over the tank. See the tank talk forum for some ideas.

    If you want to take a rather long hike, you are welcomed to come visit my current residence anytime. You will not get to see Yeti unless you are here at about 11:00 PM but Octavia is diurnal and is out most of the day.
     
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    Thanks, everybody. DWhatley- I appreciate for the advice. I am planning on waiting at least 3 months for my Octopus. Since I am new to a salt water tank I wanted to familiarize myself before I jumped in. I figured I could add mushrooms and whatnot in the meantime. I have ordered an Octopus skimmer as well. Just waiting for it to come in. Thanks for the invite. I actually work in Cumming so it's not too far. I will keep you guys updated as I go. Thanks again.
     
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    Blake,
    Yes, adding mushrooms and whatnot in the form of clean-up crew critters will allow you to increase the food in the tank and keep an active (vs stable) cycle .

    There are a few really nice serpent stars you can add that can be entertaining pets in their own right. My favorite is one commonly called a red brittle star, Ophiocoma wendti. These guys are quite hardy and often help you locate your octo as they seem to move in. We have them in all our octo tanks and they are all named, Pesky :wink: as they will often try to take the octos food, sometimes right from your hand. They are easy to hand feed but oddly they seem to disappear if their is no octo in the tank.

    A single pencil urchin is a good choice for rock cleaning BUT they will eat the coraline (purple) algae. They can be put in fairly early after you have good water parameters. I have not experiemented with pincushion urchins but have seen them be successful with octos. Avoid long spined and rock urchins though as there is too much risk for damaging the mantle. In itself a small cut or poke is not serious but the high likelyhood of infection can be lethal.

    Leather corals are octo safe as are gorgonians but wait until your tank is well cycled. If you add gorgonians, take care to place them well in the waterflow but NOT in an obvious octopus hunting path. Octopuses do not go around obstructions.

    Snails and hermit may become food but can be added early on for clean-up. Once your octo is eating well, it will likely leave these alone unless very hungry (or about to brood which amounts to the same thing). This is not ALWAYS the case but other than with O. vulgaris (I think they will eat any time and anything that moves :grin:), is common.

    You can add small crabs (like mithrax or porcelain) but they will become snack food/dinner quickly, regardless of other feeding.

    If you happen to head south, look at the bait shops on your way home (bring a cooler with a battery operated air pump). Live shrimp are interesting to have in the tank and will either be ignored by a small animal or become food at some point (but not necessarily right away if you are feeding the octo by hand). If some don't make it home (or in the aquarium before there is something to eat it), you can freeze them for feeding later (be sure they don't smell).

    You can also add a few grocery store clams. I like to let them sit in a bucket of tank water for 24 hours before putting them in the tank. These too may become food but they will help clean (a little, not a lot) the substrate if left alone, otherwise they are a good food for variety.
     
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    Great advice. As my tank matures I plan on adding the majority of your suggestions. I will keep everybody posted. Thanks again.
     

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