Plz ID before I release him!

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I would like an ID fast before I put him in his new home. A friend that owns a LFS got 2 the other day and they are both definetly different so if I dont like your answer i can go swap. ;) Its goin in a 50 gallon in wall cube that just lost its owner, Rowdy our beloved cuttle RIP.
 

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He is floating in a real small cricket container if you need a pic from a different angle. Between his eyes and back a bit is a faint white spot about the size of one of his eyes.
Thanks!
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Hmmm... I cant tell. Part of me (a very small part) wants to say small vulgaris that could just be wishful thinking but I can not say if he is for sure. If it is vulgaris a 50 will not be big enough.

Wait you said hes in a very small critter keeper... if so then this is a dwarf merc probably. They are very nocturnal and will only be seen at night with a red light... geeze I am no help at all lol.

How big is he? Using fruit to describe can be helpful.

Do you know where he came from (which body of water?)

If you want a larger octopus and this is a merc then I would return it and get the other one (depending on what it is)
 

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Whats the best pic (angle) i can take to help? Head is about grape sized, legs maybe 2.5" Actually hes about the exact size of the pic on my screen.
 

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I would have to put my money on O. Vulgaris, and if that's the case then your 50 gallon cube will be too small. Pictures of the other octopus still at the store will be helpfull as well to determin which animal would be best for you.
 

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Any idea what body of water it called home? IMO not mercatoris. The eyes favor a vulgaris but I am not comfortable with that as an ID and I am curious about the buldge on the lower part of the mantle.
 

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The animal I just purchased shares similar 'buldges' as this one. What I'm interested in are the solid dark and light bands on the arms in the first picture.
 

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DWhatley;173419 said:
Any idea what body of water it called home? IMO not mercatoris. The eyes favor a vulgaris but I am not comfortable with that as an ID and I am curious about the buldge on the lower part of the mantle.
Yes thats what I was wondering about. This octo looks very vulgaris to me... a baby even. The 50 would be ok for a while but you will need a 150+ tank and 250 is ideal.
 

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skywindsurfer;173417 said:
I would have to put my money on O. Vulgaris, and if that's the case then your 50 gallon cube will be too small. Pictures of the other octopus still at the store will be helpfull as well to determin which animal would be best for you.
I agree with this. Pics of the other one will help with guidance
 

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Hmm, interesting looking fellow. I'm going to hold off on guessing till I see more pics.

If you could get some with a little better lighting that would be good, camera flash. or I use a LED flashlight that seems to help brig out the colors and textures a little better.
 

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Everything points towards O. vulgaris. Arm length and thickness and of course the eyes. D, what is this mantle "bulge" saying to you? Diablo's had this same type of appearance at times.
 

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skywindsurfer;173431 said:
Does anyone have any input on those arm bands?
I've seen this in most of my Atlantic species vulgaris, briareus, and H'lincki
 

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DWhatley;173435 said:
I think I am just over sensative to mantle bulges ATM. :biggrin2:
Female with eggs?
No, it is much too small. I think it is a young O. vulgaris, about the size of Diablo when I got him. I can't call sex on one. Diablo didn't carry the 3rd arm curled all the time and he used it all the time unlike my others. May be a characteristic of O. vulgaris, however there have not been any to really compare to. Look for enlarged suckers, I believe 4.
 

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That was my concern but I remember asking Roy about something similar and the animal was a male.
 

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DWhatley;173438 said:
That was my concern but I remember asking Roy about something similar and the animal was a male.
:lol: Yeah, you are obsessing because of Cassie. I wish this octopus was mine :neutral: It sure is a beauty!
 

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Lmecher;173439 said:
:lol: Yeah, you are obsessing because of Cassie. I wish this octopus was mine :neutral: It sure is a beauty!
Ditto! I wish I had a large enough tank :sad: but once I get my fish room I am SOO getting a 250 gallon tank set up so that I can order one from Tom.
 

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SabrinaR;173444 said:
Ditto! I wish I had a large enough tank :sad: but once I get my fish room I am SOO getting a 250 gallon tank set up so that I can order one from Tom.
I hate to rain on your parade, but my wife and I sat down and discussed our future plans to get a house built, and we are looking at next summer. If all pans out, I'll be getting my "fish room"(roughly 6,000 gallon aquarium) constructed with a side room with a built in entrance and two walls each with a viewing window. I think I'll have the 'pick of the litter' when it comes to species selection then.
 

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