Octo from Philippines - Abdopus Aculeatus(?)

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Hi everyone,
I pick up my new octopus tomorrow. I've been told he's a pygmy, but they don't know the species. I just spoke with the saltwater manager, and it's country of origin was listed as the Philippines. Would love some help finding out what he is.
He's about the size of a golf ball, if that helps at all. I don't have many pictures, as he's still at the store. I'm guessing he's nocturnal, as he's always trying to hide from the light at the store. I just saw him today, and they had the lights blocked (new shipment) and he was sitting out in the open more.
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Most typical from this region that fit the basic look in the pictures would be an animal in the Abdopus genus, the most common species has been aculeatus but we have seen others. Aculeatus is not a dwarf but considered a medium sized species. However, there does seem to be a dwarf that looks very similar. Aculeatus is diurnal where the dwarf appears (from the few anecdotal hobbyist observations) to be nocturnal.
 

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Most typical from this region that fit the basic look in the pictures would be an animal in the Abdopus genus, the most common species has been aculeatus but we have seen others. Aculeatus is not a dwarf but considered a medium sized species. However, there does seem to be a dwarf that looks very similar. Aculeatus is diurnal where the dwarf appears (from the few anecdotal hobbyist observations) to be nocturnal.
After lots of googling last night, I also came to the conclusion that he is probably from the Abdopus genus as well. It's unfortunate that there isn't a lot of info on the different species. I just found a paper on the A. Tongus, so that's one potential option. What would you recommend for temperature for my little guy then? That was my biggest concern, was getting the temp right. I currently have the tank set to 76.
 

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The general consensus is that keeping octopuses closer to the bottom vs the top of their natural environment temperatures tends to extend their lifespan (all other things - water quality specifically - being equal) so your 76 would meet that but, being a warm water species, you would not want to drop it lower and would not want to exceed 80 over an extended period. You can Google Temperatures for the Philippines shallow waters for more specific info but this range seems to have worked well for both Caribbean and Philippine shallow water animals.
 

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The general consensus is that keeping octopuses closer to the bottom vs the top of their natural environment temperatures tends to extend their lifespan (all other things - water quality specifically - being equal) so your 76 would meet that but, being a warm water species, you would not want to drop it lower and would not want to exceed 80 over an extended period. You can Google Temperatures for the Philippines shallow waters for more specific info but this range seems to have worked well for both Caribbean and Philippine shallow water animals.
Okay, thank you! I will bump the temperature up a degree or two. I keep my reef tank around 79, but wasn't sure where this little guy was coming from and his temperature needs until yesterday.
 

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Here is a better photo of him when I opened the bag. He appears to have two rows of suckers on his tentacles, and his head is pointed. He immediately went into hiding once he got in the tank. IMG_20170302_211250491.jpg
 

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No change in thinking about species. You can expect abnormal behavior (which varies from very friendly to total recluse to out of time sync) for about a month. After that he/she should start to establish a more routine schedule.
 

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No change in thinking about species. You can expect abnormal behavior (which varies from very friendly to total recluse to out of time sync) for about a month. After that he/she shoult start to establish a more routine schedule.
Thank you for your help! I'm hoping the little guy settles in soon! He was so stressed at the store (he's been there a month), so I'm confident he'll feel much better now! I'm already in love though! Watching him crawl off my glove, and colour blend immediately was amazing!!! Then he retreated into his PVC home I made him right away.
 

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