Ocho's 6 Month Update

Phuntoon

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I haven't posted in a few months although I still visit and read very regularly. Just wanted to give a little update. The beautiful, long legged Ocho is doing very well and is actually living longer than I expected. When I got her at the end of July, she was pretty much full grown. I was gonna consider myself lucky if she lasted til Christmas. Well, the holidays came and went although I think there might be a few signs of age (a few spots of skin pigment staying white) but she's still kickin....I mean suckin. Still very content living underneath my undergravel filter which is fine and makes for a giant den to roam around in. It is still very awesome to watch her squeeze her 5 inch mantle and near 2 foot legspan down a crack just a little bit thicker than a coin or 2. I think this will be my last octopus with an UGF though. Ocho lifted up a corner just enough for a small crab to get underneath which worries me because I wouldn't be able to get to the remains which would compromise water quality. I'm gonna go with the live rock route from here on out. So Ocho has been getting a lot more thawed frozen shrimp lately which she seems perfectly ok with. Ocho has remained nocturnal coming out in late evening. I feed her about 4:50AM as I'm getting ready for work. Ocho has always had a tankmate which is a damsel. She is a very non aggressive little fish and has never caused a problem. I keep the tank at about 74 degrees, salinity 1.026 and a 20% water change every 2 weeks. I run filter floss and carbon 24/7 in a HOB filter and of course, a skimmer. I thinks that's pretty much it unless anyone has some questions. Now, a few pictures.....
 

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wow! Ocho's a really beautiful octopus! thanks for the report and pictures...
 

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Great update Phuntoon, thanks! Stuck this thread temporarily for front page promotion...
 

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Wow, I check back into the TONMO site and what do I see....Ocho front page!? Thanks Tony, that really means a lot to me! I appreciate everyones kind words on Ocho as well. She is definately an insteresting creature which always keeps me amazed. Never predictable yet seems very comfortable in her surroundings and is easy on the eyes. I'll snap some more pics and get them up soon...



Scuba Kid;86699 said:
She's beautiful! What species?

Thanks! I posted Ocho in the ID forum a few weeks after I got her and most came to the conclusion of a Macropus. She seems to have most of the physical characteristics of Macropus but its hard to be 100% sure because of a few differences I've noticed.
 

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Ocho's 6 Month Update

I'm considering using an UGF as a way to simply keep the water moving,
I'll place my live rock on top of the plates and use dual power heads to move the water.
For the front and sides I would like to use smooth beach stones to cover the UGF plates.
I'm new to this octo business so does this sound reasonable?
I hope so because I collected the beach stones myself which will make the whole thing alot more worthwhile.
I plan to employ a wet/dry so the UGF will only be for water movement and whatever incidental filtration takes place.
Thanks to all and have a great day!
DR
 

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griffen7777;86724 said:
I'm considering using an UGF as a way to simply keep the water moving,
I'll place my live rock on top of the plates and use dual power heads to move the water.
For the front and sides I would like to use smooth beach stones to cover the UGF plates.
I'm new to this octo business so does this sound reasonable?
I hope so because I collected the beach stones myself which will make the whole thing alot more worthwhile.
I plan to employ a wet/dry so the UGF will only be for water movement and whatever incidental filtration takes place.
Thanks to all and have a great day!
DR
No apologies. We're here to help with any and all questions. As for your plan, it should work out great especially since you just want it for water movement. Since a UGF supposedly relies on at least a few inches of substrate to trap the beneficial bacteria underneath, the addition of live rock and the wet/dry will help greatly and be your primary source of filtration. Ocho uncovers huge portions of the grate and there is no disturbance of good bacteria and the water stays very clear so for some people who say a UGF is sensitive and you shouldn't disturb the substrate.....I guess Ocho has proven that wrong. I also have the HOB filter to assist though. The best thing is there will definately be no shortage of oxygen in the water with the kind of surface disturbance a UGF makes. Ocho is only the 2nd out of quite a number of octopuses I've had which has found the giant lair of space beneath the undergravel filter though. Make sure the rocks you put on the grate are heavy enough that your octopus will not be able to lift it. You could also glue the grate to the bottom of the tank unless you actually want your octopus to make a den under there. In my case, I'll have to redo the tank once Ocho passes on cause she's brought a lot of gravel under there shaping her den which has slightly raised one side of the grate. Hope this info helps.
 

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Yes it does!
Thanks.....what you told me confirms what I was thinking.
Ya I suppose that beneath the UGF would be an ideal lair.
Must be fun to watch her emerge.
 

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Hi!

She IS beautiful!
Is she the same one as in your name file photo that shows on the left of each post? That one looks so much like mine and I've been trying to ID her. Do you know what species that one is? I looked up Macropus and got a wallaby list.

Sounds like you're taking very good care of her; keep it up!
 

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Griffen777,
For trappers tank (and several others) we made a modified UG to move water without sucking from the main water column. On the underneath side, we attached a network of joined PVC pipes with drilled holes so that the down tubes were connected to the PVC network. On Trapper's tank we put a filter bag around the PVC because we are using sand and to keep him out of the tubing. We made a custom platform out of plastic peg board but a standard UGF could be modified similarly.
 

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Hello Phuntoon, you have a very beautiful specimen there!

I think I may have found a match for mine. Mine, "Herb" looks identical to yours and once you mentioned Ocho's long legs I was pretty much sure I had found a match.

Ocho is much larger then Herb. Herb's mantle is probably only 1.5" long. His legs are probably 6-7" inches long at times. The colors are identical to Ocho's and he is also nocturnal.

What have you been feeding Ocho? I feed Herb 2 live glass/ghost shrimp every day and some sort of live crab once a week. I am planning on trying some frozen shrimp in the near future as well.

I have only had Herb since October and he is my 1st Octopus so I am trying to learn as much as I can about him.

I have attached a couple pics of Herb, sorry about the quality. Being that he is nocturnal it's hard to get a decent picture of him. He hates the camera flash so I stopped photographing him shortly after I got him.
 

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Ocho is really beautiful, and you have him a beautiful tank.
 

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Fishy1;86763 said:
Hi!

She IS beautiful!
Is she the same one as in your name file photo that shows on the left of each post? That one looks so much like mine and I've been trying to ID her. Do you know what species that one is? I looked up Macropus and got a wallaby list.

Sounds like you're taking very good care of her; keep it up!
Thanks! Yup, that's Ocho back in September when all I had to use was my crappy camera phone.



I really should update that pic next to my name since I've gotten a nice digital camera since then. About finding pics on Macropus, if you do a google image search on just Macropus, you'll get all the Kangaroo and Wallaby pics. Search with "octopus macropus" or "macropus octopus" and you'll get what you're looking for.
 

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bassman;86785 said:
Hello Phuntoon, you have a very beautiful specimen there!

I think I may have found a match for mine. Mine, "Herb" looks identical to yours and once you mentioned Ocho's long legs I was pretty much sure I had found a match.

Ocho is much larger then Herb. Herb's mantle is probably only 1.5" long. His legs are probably 6-7" inches long at times. The colors are identical to Ocho's and he is also nocturnal.

What have you been feeding Ocho? I feed Herb 2 live glass/ghost shrimp every day and some sort of live crab once a week. I am planning on trying some frozen shrimp in the near future as well.

I have only had Herb since October and he is my 1st Octopus so I am trying to learn as much as I can about him.

I have attached a couple pics of Herb, sorry about the quality. Being that he is nocturnal it's hard to get a decent picture of him. He hates the camera flash so I stopped photographing him shortly after I got him.
Thank you! Herb is very cool looking and still pretty small. If all goes well, you should have him for quite a while. I had maily fed ocho striped or purple shore crabs that I'd catch in the tidepools after a surf session. Since Ocho had lifted a corner of the UGF moving around gravel and such, she's been mainly getting thawed frozen shrimp from the Albertsons seafood deli. I'm just worried that a small crab could slip down there or Ocho would drag it down there to eat. I wouldn't be able to get to the remains which would just rot down there. Your second picture of Herb reminded me of this picture I took back in October....once again with the crappy camera phone.



Yeah, it's a little difficult trying to get pics without the flash since most of the time Ocho is out, so are the lights. I used to be worried that the flash would cause an inking event. But after awhile of using the flash though, she's gotten quite used to it or at least tolerates it and I'm not worried about her inking anymore.

By the way, I took a bunch more high quality shots this morning with the digital camera and will have those up tonight or tomorrow morning. Pics will show: Feeding time, chillin, and also her squeezing her mantle down the UGF....
 

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I think that it is not Octopus macropus unless you know it came from the Atlantic. I just got two in that look to be the same as what you have and the supplier got them from the indo-pacific right now I'm thinking it is Octopus luleus which is very similar to macropus.
 

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