I particularily like this forum because it allows us to see different animals and study the various traits. Sometimes we don't come up with a good answer but at least the traits are noted and a second occurance of an unusual animal can be back referenced. At one time I really wanted to put traits into a database and make a multiple choice questionaire that would give a list of possibilities. I found that we really don't have a good collection of diagnostics and that I am way too novice still to establish the criteria but I keep octopusid.com so that one day I will reexamine the idea. I am getting an octopus from Kara (sealifeInc) in the AM. It is thought to be a dwarf and has a mantle about the size of a womans first joint on the index finger. The animal was discovered in Live Rock collected on a farm off Key West. Two of my octos have come from this farm, Serendipity and Sleazy (at least I think Sleazy came from there, Ken never actually said where she came from and she may have been crab trap bi-catch given the time of year). In any case, this one is coming in the AM and from the photos, it could be either species. There is one hint that really excites me but I want to see if anyone else notices it or if it is just wishful thinking. These are cell phone photos, but more than I usually get when they send one my way.