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cuttlegirl said:
I am not sure how having a sacrum proves that they evolved on land. Didn't the ancestor of whales (some cow/pig thing) return to the sea?

Yup, and this suggests plesiosaurs had sacra (sacrums?) too... maybe there's something about the geometry that shows it supported weight on its feet? Dunno... good questions. I didn't try to look up the actual paper...
 
My understanding is that the environment in which the animal lived is thought to be terrestrial. Don't ask me 'bout no taphonomy, though. The sacrum shows that it is an early snake, supposedly earlier than all the other sacrum-less fossils. I should probably skim the piece in Nature...
 

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Originally posted in Nature
So, if the earliest known snake lived on land, that suggests snakes evolved on land, Zaher said.

I think I understand now. Since they found this "oldest snake" fossil and it was discovered in a terrestrial environment, then snakes must have started out on land. What happens when they find an older sea-based snake fossil in the future?

This link discusses vistigial legs in whale fossils. This seems kind of analagous to the sacrum in snakes (at least in MY mind:hmm: ).

When Whales Had Legs
 
Oh dear.

This thread was supposed to be semi-serious. Oh well, when in Rome.

A one-off mind.
 

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