New tank setup with a pygmy octopus

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Although I have asked previous questions concerning a setup, due to certain budgetary restraints, I am forced to look for a new tank setup. I wish to know whether a 10 or 20 gallon tank OR LESS would be appropriate for a pygmy octopus. Also what is the CHEAPEST type of filtration and protein skimming that is possible for a tank of that size?

Thank you very much,
Michael O'Shea
 

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What about one of those Eclipse 12 gallon setups? I'm using one as a freshwater feeder tank, with an eye toward eventually getting an even cheaper feeder tank setup and using this as a saltwater emergency/backup tank. Should be available for under $100...only thing it lacks is a skimmer, has integrated light, pump, filtration, biowheel. It's got a tight-fitting hood but aren't there some skimmers that are kind of "internal" that might fit within? Or could perhaps a lack of a skimmer be compensated for by a regularly changed bag of carbon? Of course...the price of carbon would outweigh a small, cheap skimmer's price fairly quick, so maybe fitting a skimmer is the better choice...

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RE: Eclipse and joubini or mercatoris

Thank you very much for your advice...
If I were to use the 12 gallon Eclipse, would it possible to use a cheap IN-TANK skimmer, such as a Lee' Counter Current?
In addition, what sort of animals would be compatible with a joubini or mercatoris? (I.e starfish, flame scallops...)
And lastly, is your pygmy a mercatoris or joubini?
 

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Mine is probably a c.f. bockii, per Colin's identification. I ordered mercatoris, but this is what I got... He may not be typical of the species, but he is EXCEEDINGLY timid. In over three months I've never seen him out moving. He moves around well enough and hunts, but he's strictly nocturnal and hides at the first sight of me (hence never catching him while he's out.) Mercatoris may be a bit friendlier.

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If Pat (rudiger) comes back online he can tell you much more about mercatoris as he had a female with eggs.
Perhaps drop him a private message via the member's profiles?
 

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Final tank setup

After weeks of research, I have finally decided on a setup recommended by a local fish store. The octopus he is willing to order is from the Caribbean, possibly Octopus briareus.
I will either use a 10 gallon tank with an aquaclear 150 and a Lee's in-tank protein skimmer, or a 20 gallon long tank with an Emperor 280 and a Lee's in-tank protein skimmer.
I have considered buying a pygmy online, but the briareus seems to be a larger and possibly more active species. My only concern is the damage it may cause to the in-tank protein skimmer.
 

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Hello Michael,

Better look at your octo sizes again - the briareus has a body up to 12 cm (about 4 3/4 inches) and arms to at least 60 cm (about 23 1/2 inches). This seems quite large for a 10 or 20 gallon tank. Since you are on a budget and want the small tank, perhaps the best thing is to reconsider the pygmy octopus.

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Nocturnal

I have read that both O. Briareus, O. joubini, and O. mercatoris are all naturally nocturnal. What is the best method to acclimatize them to a "normal" schedule (i.e. active during the daylight). Or, if that isn't possible, what else can be done?

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Hi Michael,

My briareus never really got into the hang of being diurnal... She stayed pretty inactive through teh day but she had eggs only after a short time of having her.

From experience with other octopuses, all except the bocki i had got used to diurnal activity to a lesser or greater extent...

Being the 'food god' helps a lot!!!

C
 

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Cycling

I wished to know whether cycling a new sterile tank can be done with simply sterile aragonite and yellow damsels. If not, can lava rock be used in place of Live Rock? In addition, what is an appropirate number of yellot-tailed damsels or 3-spot dominoes for cycling?

Thank you,
Michael O'Shea
 
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