New Cuttle

pilotinho

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I drove up to Octopets today and purchased a young Bandesis cuttle from Jim. He is hiding right now, I am a big believer in letting them have tons of places to hide. I drip acclimated him and hoping he settles in nicely. Wish me luck!
 

Nancy

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Congratulations and good luck with the little guy!

I didn't realize that Octopets was selling that species yet.

Nancy
 

pilotinho

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Squirt

Squirt is his name. I didn't know Octopets had any either I just asked to come by and see what he had. It turns out that he has quite a few baby bandesis. If you want them email him!
 

pilotinho

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If anyone reads this

About how long does it take a baby cuttle to warm up the environment. I only have one shrimp and one NON-Damsel fish in there with him along with a star and two snails and two hermits. With the octo it took about two weeks. What about a baby bandesis? I fed him live brine shrimp today and some amphipods. What else is recommended live food for him? Are they noctural or will they adjust to your schedule like the Bimac? Thanks

~Paul
 

Jean

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pilotinho said:
About how long does it take a baby cuttle to warm up the environment. I only have one shrimp and one NON-Damsel fish in there with him along with a star and two snails and two hermits. With the octo it took about two weeks. What about a baby bandesis? I fed him live brine shrimp today and some amphipods. What else is recommended live food for him? Are they noctural or will they adjust to your schedule like the Bimac? Thanks

~Paul
Hi Paul,

Don't know much about feeding cuttles but one thing I do know is that brine shrimp are not suitable food for anything! At most they can be used for emergency food, they are just not nutritious enough. My favourite analogy is that it's like us eating lettuce as a staple diet! Go heavy on the amphis and light on the brine shrimps! Also check out Tony's Shrimpstuff.com there's a link on the home page-much better food for Squirt!

J
 

pilotinho

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brine shrimp

Ok I checked shrimpstuff, where and how would I keep 100 live shrimp? Would I put them in a breeder net or just turn them loose in the tank and let him eat as he likes? Will they get sucked into the filter? I also ordered some fiddler crabs from aquaculture.com but I guess he won't be able to eat them right away. He is too small. Thanks for all the help, this stage in critical in that I need to get my system of feeding up and running to keep the little guy happy.
 

Paradox

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unfortunately, keeping large amounts of shrimp can be an ordeal in itself. I have a designated 10 gallon tank setup to hold shrimps..I also keep some in a breedernet in my refuge of my larger setup, since a 10 gallon can only probably hold 100 until its too much bio-load.

Since you live in san diego, are you near the shore? It may take time to find an appriopriate spot, but areas with a lot of rock and not really a sand beach, you may be able to find shore crabs that live under rocks. I live in san francisco and find these here. Saves a LOT of money..Well I guess I have 15 more mouths to feed.. You can keep these in a 5 gallon bucket with some water and rock...
 

cuttlegirl

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Hi Paul,

How big is your cuttle in comparison to your fish and your peppermint shrimp. The shrimp, of course, will eventually be lunch.:sad: . Also, how big is your food in comparison to the cuttle? Brine shrimp (besides having no nutritional value), may be too small for your cuttle. Good luck.
 

pilotinho

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cuttle food

I am going to miss the peppermint shrimp, his name is Popcorn. I ditched the brine shrimp idea and got him to eat two ghost shrimp tonight. I also did a overdue %10 water change. I am still a little confused as to what people think is good food for him outside of shore crabs. Ghost shrimp are just an interim food until I get the real nutritious stuff. Thanks for everyone's help.

~Paul
 

Jean

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pilotinho said:
I am going to miss the peppermint shrimp, his name is Popcorn. I ditched the brine shrimp idea and got him to eat two ghost shrimp tonight. I also did a overdue %10 water change. I am still a little confused as to what people think is good food for him outside of shore crabs. Ghost shrimp are just an interim food until I get the real nutritious stuff. Thanks for everyone's help.

~Paul
It can be confusing but good rule of thumb is "feed marine to marine"

What adds to the confusion is common names; in NZ a Ghost Shrimp is a burrowing marine shrimp (Callianasa filholi)!! but I understand that often in the US ghost shrimps are a freshwater species!

Palaemon shrimps are good food and some cuttles/octis can be trained to take frozen ones, also frozen scallops, clams etc

The bottom line is that good food for an cuttlefish (or any other captive animal for that matter!) is food that is as close to the normal wild diet as you can get it, which means marine crabs, shrimps etc

Cheers

J
 

joel_ang

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Cuttles seem to acclimate really fast, often a matter of minutes if they are feeling secure. Giving him lots of places to hide can't go wrong. If he's started feeding then it normally means they're ok.

The cuttles I've kept seem to do pretty well on ghost shrimps and crabs from brackish water... also the occasional crayfish. If you can find these at a reasonable price, you could use this as a temporary food source til you find their marine counterparts.

As Jean mentioned, frozen fish, shrimp and crabs ae taken quite readily by cuttles, provided they look real and have some movement.
 

pilotinho

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cuttlefish food

He has not eaten for two days mainly because I can't keep the food alive long enough for him to hunt it. The ghost shrimp are dead in a day and the molly's don't last half an hour. He is out and sitting on a rock. I gave him tons of places to hide. My water params are all green. There was a nitrate problem that I corrected with a water change. I set up a small fresh water container for the food. I suck up the shrimp with a turkey baster and blast them out near him and hope he responds and attacks. This has not worked since the first time I tried it two days ago. I have emailed Jim at octopets but I guess he is busy because he has not responded. I have some crabs that are due to be delivered on Thursday or Friday. I asked for small ones so that he can eat them right away. I can only go to the beach during the weekend because it is dark when I leave work. This is WAY tougher than the octo who would be happy with live clams... I am fretting myself to sickness! I really appreciate everyone's support and emails. I just need to get him some steady healthy food.
 

Nancy

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If you have amphipods in your tank, perhaps he's catching those.

You could try a bit of thawed frozen raw shrimp, but he's pretty young for frozen food. You'd probably have to wiggle it on a stick to interest him.

Several owners have reported that it takes a lot to interest these small cuttles in food - a lot of effort animating their food, when it isn't live.

Nancy
 

Thales

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I would say leave him alone for a day or two. If they aren't eating or interested in food, it might be because they are full, or freaked out. Having food around all the time seems to make them not care about food. I suggest only putting stuff in the tank that you want them to eat right now.

Whatever fish you have in the tank may also be freaking the cuttle out, so you might want to remove it.
 

Jean

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Also I can't emphasise it enough, freshwater prey is not good enough! It would be like us living on a diet of candy! Tastes good, makes us feel full but we could still end up malnourished!!! Tis OK as a treat but the staple diet must be marine.

Cheers

J
 

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