National Geographic

Steve O'Shea

TONMO Supporter
Supporter
Joined
Nov 19, 2002
Messages
4,669
#5
Went to a lecture last eve, Dr Daniel Pauly. All is not well on this tiny little planet .... check his name out on a web search; he's done a little more than 'a bit' on marine conservation/fisheries devastation.

I heard the world ends in 2012 anyway, according to some code in biblical text (comet strike) .... so no need to worry. Exhaust everything now, because there is no tomorrow, and no need to concern ourselves with the welfare of future generations :( .

In fact, in 2011 make sure you buy a palace, live beyond your means, and put far too much on your credit cards living up large (just don't come after me if the tales of doom and gloom don't come to fruition ... and you're forced to repay the debt).
 

cthulhu77

TONMO Supporter
Supporter
Joined
Mar 15, 2003
Messages
6,642
#6
The stars must be coming to the right position...no more glaciers, no polar bears, starving people worldwide, uninhabitable regions....all within 30-50 years.
The photos of the north Pole were the creepiest.
:shock: :shock: :shock:
 

Jean

Colossal Squid
Supporter
Joined
Nov 19, 2002
Messages
4,218
Location
Dunedin, New Zealand
#8
Steve O'Shea said:
Went to a lecture last eve, Dr Daniel Pauly
I would love to go toone of his presentations butI don't think he's coming this far south :( can you give us a precis????? I've read soooooo many of his papers!


J
 

Infusoria

Vampyroteuthis
Registered
Joined
Jun 3, 2004
Messages
486
#9
Jean said:
Steve O'Shea said:
Went to a lecture last eve, Dr Daniel Pauly
I would love to go to one of his presentations butI don't think he's coming this far south :( can you give us a precis????? I've read soooooo many of his papers!


J
Precis: Google: Fishing down marine food webs.

Abstract: The mean trophic level of the species groups reported in Food and Agricultural Organization global fisheries statistics declined from 1950 to 1994. This reflects a gradual transition in landings from long-lived, high trophic level, piscivorous bottom fish toward short-lived, low trophic level invertebrates and planktivorous pelagic fish. This effect, also found to be occurring in inland fisheries, is most pronounced in the Northern hemisphere. Fishing down food webs (that is, at lower trophic levels) leads at first to increasing catches, then to a phase transition associated with stagnating or declining catches. These results indicate that present exploitation patterns are unsustainable.

So, to summarise, we'll be hunting plankton and jellyfish in 50 years, in the muddy depauperate mush that used to be the ocean. No fishing is sustainable on current evidence. Fisheries Management is damage control at best, government driven financial collusion at worst. It's not something that gives a warm fuzzy feeling regarding humankind.

Daniel Pauly, although not very interesting as an orator (He did say he was jetlagged), had a pretty grim message. Sadly though, the only hope he had for fisheries was the rising price of oil. Mostly a total downer, if only because my worst suspicions were realised.

:party: not
 

cthulhu77

TONMO Supporter
Supporter
Joined
Mar 15, 2003
Messages
6,642
#10
I was discussing this with some people yesterday, and one lady said "Well, what are they going to do to fix it?"....People just don't realize that the damage has already been done, and is not fixable...which makes it even sadder...
I would have liked my children and grandchildren to have seen the sea that Jaques dived in... :(
 

Melissa

Larger Pacific Striped Octopus
Supporter
Joined
Apr 3, 2003
Messages
1,137
#11
I had a look at the National Geographic pictures and Greg did not warn you enough - the arctic pictures are worrisome.

I'm still trying to make sense of the pictures, and the news of
polar bear burglars together.

Melissa
 

Members online

No members online now.

Forum statistics

Threads
19,499
Messages
202,639
Members
8,371
Latest member
gmg

Monty Awards

TONMOCON IV (2011): Terri
TONMOCON V (2013): Jean
TONMOCON VI (2015): Taollan
TONMOCON VII (2018): ekocak

About the Monty Awards
Top