Mystery squid 1

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Anyone want to tell me what squid this came from :biggrin2:

It's a hook taken from one of the arms.

.....more to be revealed .... soon

 

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That would be my guess as well, but it would seem the punch line will not be quite so simple. Do tell more!
 

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Nope, not the colossal squid I'm afraid (this particular hook is at least twice the length of those on the colossal squid :goofysca: ).

Should be published ~ August 2003 (is 'in press' right now); it's used for something pretty horrible. :yuck:

You'll probably hear about it when it's finally out.
 

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Moroteuthis robusta?
 

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..... getting colder :mrgreen:

This thing (both hook and squid) are without parallel - pretty sensational find in fact. There are quite a number of 'giant' squid out there :tentacle:
 

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grrrrrrrrt!!! :x You're lucky you're on the other side of the planet. :biggrin2:

Kondakovia longimana, the giant warty squid???? :?:
 

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Egad!!
I just popped up for a look and what do I find? Dr O has found a big hook!

How big is the hook Dr O? And can you give us a clue as to how big the giant killer squid is that had this thing attached to it's arm???
 

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is it used by Halpoteuthis ferox as a bottle opener?

as for a real guess, is it used in some kinky mating activity?

:cthulhu: :heart: :beer:
 

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Seriously: Is there any point in us guessing? If this is a new species then we'll never get it! :shock:

Silly: Is this a Sperm Whale toothpick?
 

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Quite correct (he says safe and secure in an office in the southern hemisphere, pulling faces 8) ). This has come from a squid that is not supposed to have hooks (it is quite a well-known squid, in that it was described in ..... hmmmmmm ...... don't want to give anything away ..... quite a long time ago). Ja, it's pretty bizarre!

..... but you want to see what we found out in Tasmania :goofysca:
 

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Looks like GeoffC found that periscope somewhere in the Internet ether, good find! I'll add it to the smilies list, along with a few others I've been meaning to add...
 

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GeoffC sure did stumble on a good one there. I just took a wee squiz at your profile there Geoff, noting you're an archaeologist, with interests in paleontology and natural history (there was a third interest there I recall but I'm getting old and forgetful). Pretty cool. Ever found any squid beaks, gladius or hooks at any midden site/dig, or are you familiar with any such finds?

Might be a subject worthy of discussion.
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O
 

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GEOFFC!

It may be non-ceph but tell please us all about your elephant bone you found in a 13th century pit in Chester (UK). Elephants were unknown in the UK then, obviously.

Perhaps best do this on another topic though; I don't really want to sidetrack this interesting discussion.

(We studied archaeology together, me and Geoff, and have dug on a few of the same sites together).
 

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Tiz in the Journal of the Marine Biological Association of the UK (JMBA), or something like that. August I recall (expected); we'll see. My lips are sealed until then :mrgreen:
 

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Kvestchons kvestchons olveys kvestchons

Steve O'Shea said:
Where'd this cool periscope come from?????
:periscop:
Hi Dr O, Peri the Scope? :oops: Actually he's my own creation, he may get to do other stuff in the future but for now he's just scopin' Glad you like him.

Tonmo said:
I'll add it to the smilies list
Thanks Tony

Hi Phil
I'll post you a reply about Medieval elephants on the fossil board (cos it's r'elephant here :jester: - originally from Duck Soup Tani informed us a while ago but worth another mention I say)

Cheers peeps

But back to the hook, in land animals I think you can tell a great deal about them from their teeth and claws, what they eat, if they hunt and maybe how they catch their food, does it work like that with squid/octopus hooks?

Inquiring minds need to know!
Geoff
 

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I think the hook belongs to Taningia Danae. I know this isn't really a giant squid. But I figured since it doesn't have feeding tentacles it might need a good grip on prey.But I doubt this is correct :?
 

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Nope, not Taningia I'm afraid.

Am working on another specimen of 'giant Octopoteuthis' (we now have a male and a female), the description of which will require us to look at/describe the hooks of Taningia in greater detail (for comparison). We'll be able to post some interesting (I hope) illustrations of these hooks in a few months (and will probably throw in a few onychoteuthid, enoploteuthid and cranchiid [e.g., Mesonychoteuthis] hooks, just for comparison - a wee TONMO special).

I'd be very surprised if anyone figured out what 'Mystery squid 1' was - that's why I placed it online (although a few people that reviewed the manuscript will know).
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O
 

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