LIVING ARCHITEUTHIS PHOTO

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  1. Clem

    Clem Architeuthis Supporter Registered

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    Mega-Squid! (click here)

    Running that term through image-search turned up a series of terrific photos of a very large squid dying on the coast of Japan. The animal lolls in a deep tidal pool, and a line has been fastened to it. The squid appears to have been alive when photographed, as the arms show quite a lot of movement between the individual frames, with one appendage appearing to slap atop one of the rocks ringing the pool. The URL provides the only English-language information on the pages, suggesting that the stranding took place in the Kyoto area, in February of 2002. Any TONMO'ers with Japanese reading ability, please take a crack at translating the text accompanying the photos.

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    Some squid.

    :heee:

    Clem
     

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  2. Steve O'Shea

    Steve O'Shea Colossal Squid Supporter

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    LIVING ARCHITEUTHIS PHOTO

    It is Architeuthis Clem; I'm surprised the images are online .... there are more, and they're sensational, but they're not images that a doco company could use, as some of them are pretty barbaric (the ropes). The specimen is now preserved in Japan.

    I first saw these last year, in addition to another quite stunning pic ... and I'll say no more. I'm glad that the images are finally online, as it is THE FIRST LIVE ARCHITEUTHIS EVER PHOTOGRAPHED!!!

    The images were used to try and secure funds to get a submersible working trenches off Japan, but the bid to secure funds was not successful. It is a shame really.

    There's more that can be added to this story.
     
  3. Clem

    Clem Architeuthis Supporter Registered

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    LIVING ARCHITEUTHIS PHOTO

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  4. tonmo

    tonmo Titanites Staff Member Webmaster Moderator

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    Seeing that living eye is incredible!
     
  5. tonmo

    tonmo Titanites Staff Member Webmaster Moderator

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    Scroll down on that page, and click on the blue hypertext characters to access SEVERAL MORE photos!
     
  6. Clem

    Clem Architeuthis Supporter Registered

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    Holy...

    All right, now that I'm no longer lying passed out on the floor, I should be able to respond to this news with more than an emphatic exclamation point.

    I'm having to adjust my mental image of Architeuthis on the fly, as it were. The intact, living eye is incredible to see, and not what I expected; I'd have expected to see a larger orbit of generally round configuration, not an ellipse. In fact, it almost looks as if the animal has a sort of lid structure, but I'm ignorant of the particulars of Architeuthis ocular musculature.

    Since we're all used to photgraphs of deflated, flaccid giants, the apparent robustness of this animal is startling, as is its apparent willingness (and ability) to extend appendages above the surface and onto the rocks. The sequence of photgraphs also shows what looks like color-shifting on the surfaces still bearing an intact skin integument, especially along the arms. Was it "flashing" its chromatophores?

    Too many questions and not enough background information right now, so I'll just go back and stare for awhile. What an amzing thing.

    Clem
     
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    tonmo Titanites Staff Member Webmaster Moderator

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    The translation of the site from Japanese to English, according to babelfish.altavista.com:

    And then, on the second page:
     
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    Wow, the smell must have been pretty bad. Amonical squid breaking the surface. Blech!
     
  9. rrtanton

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    Just plain wow. It's good to see this reminder that there is more going on behind the scenes in research than we see...

    rusty
     
  10. Fujisawas Sake

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    NO FRIGGIN WAY!!!

    These are REAL?!?! WAAAAAAHOOO!!!!!!

    AMAZAING!

    Steve, any thoughts?!?!?

    John
     
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    Sweet cow of Moscow!!

    Okay... breathe, John... *sigh*

    First Question: The Eye.... was it reflecting light? Do they have a tapetum lucidum like certain mammals? .... Wow....

    I can't believe this... Wow....

    I can't even think of a second question....

    John
     
  12. Steve O'Shea

    Steve O'Shea Colossal Squid Supporter

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    Thoughts? Many.

    1) I wish I had been there.
    2) I wish Dr Tsunemi Kubodera had been successful in securing funds to get a submersible deployed in the area where this brute was caught.
    3) I wish I had been there.
    4) I'm happy that these images are now online!!
    5) I wish I had been there.
     
  13. Phil

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    Incredible pictures. I can hardly believe I am looking at them.

    I wonder how this animal was caught? Was it a fishing boat crew who caught it and towed the poor thing back to harbour? I don’t suppose we will ever know the details of the exact circumstances.

    I agree the eye is not how I would have expected it to appear, somewhat smaller, and the arms have a somewhat flatter cross- section. Is that a keel on the third arm? It also seems that the outer skin on the mantle is peeling away; particularly noticable in the area around the fins. I wonder if that is damage caused by the rope, or is ‘moulting’ of the outer surface of the skin a normal feature?

    Clem, I’m going to buy you a drink one day for this discovery!
     
  14. Steve O'Shea

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    .... details are sketchy, but from what I understand the specimen was 'noosed' at sea (it was floating on the surface), then hauled back to land; it's in a big rockpool. There is no video (I asked last year; just these stills). The loss of skin could be attributed to capture treatment.

    The eye is sitting within a socket in the head; note the anterior sinus .... they're not supposed to have this ... it's always lost in the frozen specimens (very onychoteuthid-like in appearance). The socket into which the eye fits is muscular, so what it is doing here is constricting, obscuring much of the eye.

    ps, yes, that's a keel
    pps, it's probably worthy of its own thread, don't you think??
    ppps, the next sensational find is likely to be a live ammonite!
     
  15. tonmo

    tonmo Titanites Staff Member Webmaster Moderator

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    Re: your PPS.... done!

    That's some picture. I've written a kind note to the Webmaster to see if we can't have the photo hosted here on TONMO.com, and to see if there's any further info that can be lent.

    -- tonmo
     
  16. Phil

    Phil Colossal Squid Supporter Registered

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    Hey, you are not sitting on another batch of secret photos, by any chance? :D

    Clem get to work! You never know what the good Doctor is hiding!
     
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    Jean Colossal Squid Supporter

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    Me too!

    J
     
  18. Architeuthoceras

    Architeuthoceras Architeuthis Staff Member Moderator

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    Did someone say LIVE AMMONITE?

    That Eye is spooky, why is it yellow? I'm going to have nightmares about a large bright yellow black & white eye. Those fishermen should have run into a school of those things, they would have pulled the boat under.

    Did I hear LIVE AMMONITE? :ammonite:
     
  19. Clem

    Clem Architeuthis Supporter Registered

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    Perhaps "overcoat" is Babelfish's attempt at translating "mantle," as the animal appears longer than 2m overall. 4m looks about right for an overall length.

    This might refer to the 3rd arm with its keel. The 4th arm pair is visible in the photos in their "zipped" configuration, beneath the animal and conforming to the surface of the rocks on the bottom of the pool; you can just make out the slightly spread tips of the arm pair on a patch of green seaweed. (Click here for frame.) In another frame, it appears that the squid has cocked its tentacular clubs, one to either side of the ventral surface of the mantle, giving the animal a somewhat comical "Spock" look. (Click here for frame.)

    Inking?

    With all the onlookers present, you'd think someone would have brought their camcorder with them.

    :heee:

    Clem
     
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    Why the **** did it take Clem (bless him) doing an image search to reveal this? Would we have ever heard of this if he hadn't?
     

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