I think im going to take the advice to try cuttles

Discussion in 'Octopus Care' started by marinerules, Nov 20, 2005.

  1. marinerules

    marinerules Wonderpus Registered

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    as many of you have seen my threads

    im very bored with octopus's

    yes they do intrest me and I love them, but they are just outweighed with bordem

    they just aren tout enough and I dont see them enough to hold my attention of wanting to keep them.

    So I have posted a thread in the cuttle forum to see if cuttles are for me


    what determins if they are for me or not is

    1. How much more they are active than octos
    2. Ive heard they are free water column swimmers and not hiders like octos?
    3. How fast they grow (hope its faster than the bimac)
    4.IVe heard they do Extroadinary color changes, I dont know about the species, but on the discovery channel , They are amazing.

    and what all they eat. I have heard they dont like snails as preferrred to crabs, shrimp and fish.

    if I get one , it will be from octopets.

    so waht species is that and is there any good sites other than tonmo that shows more pictures and info about THAT species
     
  2. DocFrye

    DocFrye O. vulgaris Registered

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    Goldfish never hide from you, and you can chose from a variety of styles and colors.
     
  3. marinerules

    marinerules Wonderpus Registered

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    i mean

    i mean was that necissary

    im not intrested in goldfish , im intrested in cuttlefish
     
  4. DHyslop

    DHyslop Architeuthis Supporter

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    ...Just like you were interested in octopus.
     
  5. Paradox

    Paradox Haliphron Atlanticus Supporter

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    They are very active, I very rarely not see mine.. If they have just eaten a LARGE meal, they will become more lethargic and halfway be in the sand, but for the most part hes there entertaining me. They grow fast. The officinalis species is what im refering to. 4-5 inches by 4-5 months and from there they will begin growing faster depending on what you feed them.
     
  6. DocFrye

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    Thank you, DHyslop. My point exactly. Didn't you have all 3 of these octopuses at the same time?

    I'm a vet. I help people with pet choices all day long. I see people take on too much, and some that just get bored with their impulse choices. Why jump to the next ceph when the first got so boring so quickly? Leave them to those of us who find them incredibly fascinating.

    Hey, and I still think goldfish can make great pets.

    And who exactly gave you the advice to try cuttles? I must have missed that part.
     
  7. Jean

    Jean Colossal Squid Supporter

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    good point Doc...one of the funniest things I ever saw was at a dog show where a Husband /wife team showed Chihuahas and Great Danes. The husband was around 6'4" and she was 5'1" and you guessed it she showed the Danes he showed the Chihuahas!!!! BUT at least they understood their dogs!

    J
     
  8. marinerules

    marinerules Wonderpus Registered

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    ok

    only reason i found the octopus not intresting is cause i never see them

    everyone says that the cuttles are out a WHOLE lot more than octos

    im intrested in octos, and I have never had one and mistreated it,

    you guys , well some of you , act like i jumped on impulse, I didnt, i researched for 1.5 years on the internet before making a plunge to get one.

    and now I want to try cuttles,


    my decision , no matter what you think i should do ,


    i find it time to leave this board, people used to be helpful and answer what you asked and give suggesionts support and advice

    no give wisecracs along with the support.
     
  9. Nancy

    Nancy Titanites Staff Member Moderator

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    Marinerules, it seems to me you would be happier with a reef aquarium which had fish, shrimp, crabs, and lots going on all the time to watch. I've never heard of anyone bored with their reef tank.

    Nancy
     
  10. Jean

    Jean Colossal Squid Supporter

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    Marinerules....wise cracks were not meant from me at any rate! I just thought the dog thing was funny! BUT having said that surely during your 1.5 years of internet research you would have run across the info that most octopus are a) nocturnal and b) shy???? Go for cutttles by all means but individual variation in behaviour will apply! Some will be laid back and more inclined to snooze under the sand than others !

    Cheers

    j
     
  11. Feelers

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    I think marine rules is getting a bit of a rough deal.
    I can very easily see how an octopus could be boring. When I was little I was always disappointed at how the local aquariums octo just stayed in its den.
    People here dont generally talk about the boring octos they've kept - , fortunately most people seem to have active ones.

    Based on the fact that he has a very large tank, it would seem that cuttlefish might fit his requirements, as they dont hide and most people report that they are always out to beg for food ect.

    I think that octopets carries Sepia Officinalis, (the one that gets big!)


    I love octos but I can still see that they can be quite boring to some people, especially if they were expecting something that would wrestle with you or wave when you go to work.

    Perhaps more contact with your octo could help - hand feeding ect, to get him more used to you being around.
     
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    Nancy Titanites Staff Member Moderator

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    Octos have different personalities (not dependent on the species), so it's possible to get a shy one. Also, they can be more shy when they're young.

    Other factors seem to be important, too, such as where you put your tank, how much time you spend with your octo, how you try to play with him and so forth.

    We don't have many people who've tried both octos and cuttlefish - certainly they behave very differently. I've seen S. officinalis that were just blending in with their surroundings, so they must not be active all the time.

    Nancy
     
  13. corw314

    corw314 Colossal Squid Staff Member Moderator

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    I wasn't going to reply to this thread, but decided to. Here's a thought. Could it be because you do have 2 in the same tank? Their focus maybe on each other instead of interacting with you. In all the years I have kept octopuses, and I believe the count including before Tonmo has to be around 15, I have never been bored. I guess it is possable as sometimes the hiding baby stage can seem like it goes on forever, Egor is at this point, but still not in the least boring. I myself have never had the pleasure to keep a cuttlefish.

    Just my :twocents:
     
  14. Mizu

    Mizu Vampyroteuthis Registered

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    eh
    My Cuttle is a lot different then my octo was. (i miss you megas)
    Hes out more but he does less.
    I mean yeah he does not hide in his cave for a days a time like Megas sometimes did But he doesnt come grab my hand either. Megas liked to play with me and my cuttle just stares at me like i have lost my mind when i try to play with him.
    The color changes dont happen all the time. Just when they feel like it.
    All in all i had a depper conection to my Octo.
    Try sand sharks. They are awesome and move constantly (they have to breathe)
     
  15. cthulhu77

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    Okay...I held off for a while. now: :mad:

    MR...why do you want to bother keeping animals that you obviously don't care much for ? These creatures are not meant to be stuffed into a tank to inflate your ego, or look "cool" for you and your sycophantic friends.
    Please, please...give up the ceph keeping, and stick to something else.

    rant off.
    greg
     
  16. joefish84

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    alright i too have been watching this thread now for a while and im irritated slightly also so im going to add to this bashing


    first of all every octo has its own personality... the ones you got just lack a personality and hide its not thier fault so dont bash all octos because of it and if you had done enough research you would have found before you got them that octos hide for most of their lives and usually only come out in the wild to eat breed and find a new home. not to play with people... second... if you want something that is always in front of you begging for food try a dog... reef tank... fowler tank... birds... turtles... but for gods sake dont try a ceph... they are slightly different. they have other things to do in their free time than beg you for food and try to please you. third. the reason aquariums were invented in the first place was to study specimens and learn about them not to be entertained... yes we do like the enjoyment of them but if you think about it the only reason we keep them is due to a facination with them and we want to study them to learn more about them so instead of complaining about bordem learn from your octos and then use those teachings for the next time you pick a pet so you know what you want. and last if your asking people about wether or not you should try cuttles dont sit there and bash octos first because more than likely everyone here who has cuttles now also had or has octos because they are facinated by them also and complaining about octos behaviors isnt going to win them over.




    ok im done now... sorry for that just had to get it out...
     
  17. Feelers

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    I agree with corw314, I didnt realise they were both in the same tank.

    I'm sure that this will cause some behavorial changes - your tank is huge compared to most but in terms of how close these animals live in the wild very overcrowded. In the wild I believe they live at an approximate density of 1 per 10m maximum.
    Since they are very teritorial especially over their den they are probably very worried about the other one stealing their home - and eating them :smile: .
    Are you able to release one of the octos or perhaps sell him to one of the people here to increase yours and the octos enjoyment of your big tank? Or perhaps move one to a smaller tank that could be hooked up on the same system.

    From what I gather from many peoples experiences an octo will only come out after it feels completely safe - and its hard to do that when theres a potential murderer next door. :grin:
     
  18. marinerules

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    they arent together aymore

    they are not together anymore and havent been for some time

    im selling the smallest one to the petstore friday and then im keeping them big one till it dies from old age or wahtever cause

    and Im then getting


    fish, corals, ect. again


    im ready for my tank to be intresting again .


    u guys can rant all u want.

    i think what I think , u think what you think

    how the world works lol
     
  19. corw314

    corw314 Colossal Squid Staff Member Moderator

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    We don't have a sigh icon......
     
  20. DHyslop

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    The cephalopods of the world

    minus two, of course

    collectively rejoice.
     

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