Hummelincki source on Ebay

[Keith]

thanks octavarium. i appreciate it. ive been referred to a couple different places so far, but the more sources, the better. and id much rather get referred to someone by a TONMO member than anyone else.

 

[cthomason352]

Size on Octos I have for sale

Just curious... What basis are you using for these size indications? Mantle length or mantle plus arm length?

I have octos that are 4-10 inches, Mantle plus arms! Thanks

 

[cthomason352]

im lookin for a briareus right now, but ill definately try to send some business your way

Thanks

 

[cthomason352]

That's great temp info because I have been keeping mine at 76-78 degrees and i would say he is easily as active while the lights are on as he is when the lights are off. I have kept the dwarf carribean octo's before but this guy is by far AWESOME!! I would definitely recomend this source for a great octopus!!

Yes they are very active, thanks Jellyman!

 

[Keith]

absolutely. wait have yours been positively IDd yet? my fiance is gettin interested after seein all the information im gathering on octo keeping. im thinkin about gettin her one for our anniversary.

 

[Animal Mother]

absolutely. wait have yours been positively IDd yet? my fiance is gettin interested after seein all the information im gathering on octo keeping. im thinkin about gettin her one for our anniversary.

Yes, the are O. filosus aka O. hummelincki, Caribbean 2-Spot. VERY fun. My favorite octopus so far was one of these, not to take anything away from Kalypso being an O. briareus, she's great, but the 2-Spots are naturally day active and have very outgoing dispositions, not to mention, don't grow ginormous, have a much wider variety of colors and more extreme texture changes. Mine ate from my hand the first day, played with my hand during acclimation...

More or less I'm saying, dude, if you want an octopus for all the cool behaviors you see on TV and what not, you want an O. filosus.

If this continues to be a regular source for O. filosus then I know where I will be shopping for my next octopus.

 

[monty]

Yes, the are O. filosus aka O. hummelincki, Caribbean 2-Spot. VERY fun. My favorite octopus so far was one of these, not to take anything away from Kalypso being an O. briareus, she's great, but the 2-Spots are naturally day active and have very outgoing dispositions, not to mention, don't grow ginormous, have a much wider variety of colors and more extreme texture changes. Mine ate from my hand the first day, played with my hand during acclimation...

More or less I'm saying, dude, if you want an octopus for all the cool behaviors you see on TV and what not, you want an O. filosus.

If this continues to be a regular source for O. filosus then I know where I will be shopping for my next octopus.

I know filosus is easier to spell, but I think the taxidermists, er, I mean taxonomists, in their infinite wisdom, have decided to standardize on hummelincki. Or maybe just some group of them that yells louder, I dunno. Anyway, I've been trying to nudge people in the "say hummelincki and mention formerly known as filosus" direction to tilt at the reducing confusion windmill...

 

[Animal Mother]

I know filosus is easier to spell, but I think the taxidermists, er, I mean taxonomists, in their infinite wisdom, have decided to standardize on hummelincki. Or maybe just some group of them that yells louder, I dunno. Anyway, I've been trying to nudge people in the "say hummelincki and mention formerly known as filosus" direction to tilt at the reducing confusion windmill...

Gotcha. Sorry to perpetuate the confusion...

 

[Octavarium]

All abolish the name filosus from henceforth!

 

[monty]

no problem...

argh, for further confusion, this page seems to prefer filosus: http://zipcodezoo.com/Animals/O/Octopus_filosus.asp

as does this: ITIS - Report: Octopus filosus

so it sounds like in the 1998-2000 time frame, Sweeny & Roper at least preferred filosus.

What a mess. Now I should go back and figure out who/what convinced me hummelincki was better (although unless I'm getting senile, I'm pretty sure some of our actual real biologist members were in that camp...)

This seems to be the original "filosus is preferred" reference:

Toll, R. B. 1990. A reaffirmation of the nomenclatural status of Octopus filosus
Howell, 1868, the senior synonym of Octopus hummelincki Adam, 1936. Nautilus
104(1):26-28..

but doesn't seem to be available online anywhere I can find.

I also found out that this species is sometimes called the "bumblebee octopus" as well as "Caribbean two-spot" and various combinations of the above.

This is the sort of situation where I feel obligated to make a "Clado-Masochist" joke about biologists.

 

[Keith]

sweet. so they dont get very big? what kinda temp do they need? and can a 75 gal. hold one well? i still want a briareus, but its always good to have options.

 

[Animal Mother]

sweet. so they dont get very big? what kinda temp do they need? and can a 75 gal. hold one well? i still want a briareus, but its always good to have options.

They're Caribbean, so 76-78 Fahrenheit, and yes a 75 gallon would be fine.

 

[Keith]

hmm. bad ass. thanks AM

 

[cthomason352]

OCTOS IDENTIFIED

OH THANK GOD I NOW KNOW FOR SURE WHAT KIND THEY ARE
THEY ARE JUST AWESOME CREATURES! THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO GUYS-YOU ROCK!

Yes, the are O. filosus aka O. hummelincki, Caribbean 2-Spot. VERY fun. My favorite octopus so far was one of these, not to take anything away from Kalypso being an O. briareus, she's great, but the 2-Spots are naturally day active and have very outgoing dispositions, not to mention, don't grow ginormous, have a much wider variety of colors and more extreme texture changes. Mine ate from my hand the first day, played with my hand during acclimation...

More or less I'm saying, dude, if you want an octopus for all the cool behaviors you see on TV and what not, you want an O. filosus.

If this continues to be a regular source for O. filosus then I know where I will be shopping for my next octopus.

 

[Deacon]

There is also a fairly regular source on eBay for what is claimed to be O. briareus. Don't know anything about the seller, though his listing is fairly complete (the picture is too small to determine species, however.)
Anyone know anything about care for this species? Would a 55 gallon with a 20 gallon sump be big enough? How about the hummelicki (sp?)