To be honest, almost all octos sold will probably have came from TMC Ltd. They are a wholealer who only sell to shops, but what you could do is phone TMC London or Manchester, ask them what shops local to you sell their stock, go to that shop and get them to get an octopus from TMC for you and get it delvered to the shop.
Now, the bad part is that their octopus ID skills are really pretty grim, they either call them californian, brown, zebra or common octopuses and to be honest that doesnt mean a thing. i have bought over a dozen octopuses that were supposed to be comon octopus Octopus vulgaris and not a single one has been.
They commonly import Octopus, bocki and aculeatus, try a search on this site to learn more about them, in short they are normally fully grown when we get them and live a couple months if lucky.
so, its not easy getting captive bred species like bimaculoides over here, i would soecifically ask TMC for californian species as that is more likely to be a bimac, but once i got a briareus from california!!! They are from florida!
Hello, my girlfriend lives in Nottingham, she's at the Trent Uni!... lovely place!
There is also a TMC Bristol now as well...
I'd see where they supply to (on their website) and go and see if they have octos there... then you can choose and get what you want. You could try and arange a visit to TMC though, the South site is probably the best one to see!
Hi Andy L - Nottingham is a great place - despite the recent bad press :(
I know TMC supply our LFS so they will be our first port of call - they are being v helpful with the whole octo idea but i know it isn't a specialism of theirs... although they did have one in about 3 months ago, which is what sparked our enthusiasm for the whole idea.
As for the whole supply question (cheers for excellent info Colin) perhaps i need to find out how much a small fortune actually is.... and what happens with import licences for octopus? And is it at all practical for individuals to think about exporting, for instance from OCtopets?? In reality i know that when my tank is fully conditioned I'll be tempted to buy the first octopus i see (unless it's a blue ringed)!
I spoke to a bloke at TMC within the past month or two by email and he said he gets Californian in 3-4 times a year so just ask my LFS to order it.
Now that creates a prob that Colin pointed out - god knows what you'll get!! but at the same time you dont have to take it just cause you ordered it. Just make sure its a bimac in the book you select it from at the LFS and they are pretty easy to identify with their spots. *Ja reckon Colin?*
Thats my 5p on that anyway or what I fathom from it
Ive also looked into all this importing buisness from Octopets as most LFS's import from Asia way of the world were you dont get the Bimac. Funnily enough I found my notes on it the other day. My god that made my brain hurt when I was doin that !!!
Since its easy for me to pick up from Heathrow I was gunna arrange it meself (spoke to Octopets about it aswell - Jim's cool) Get it stuck on a plane with Fedex ( spoke to them they'r sound) at Los Angeles airport thats a direct flight to Heathrow to delay change overs.
Now with that you need to get licences from DEFRA, FSA and Customs and Excise, sounds easy doesnt it no way mate, C&E have a head office in london and office at heathrow, as do DEFRA and i think theyve had some kinda lovers tiff cause they dont speak to each other, so you have to be tooed and frowed between em
THe FSA are the American side an Ive spoke with them as well, there not to bad really in the whole picture.
You cant do unless you have shipping agent, as C&E frown upon you if you dont....gettin the picture!?!?!?
Luckily one of my best mates is a shipping agent...wheyy heeyy!!!! Sorted takes a big chunk of cash of the cost.
I more or less was there with it all but for a million and one reasons I havnt been able to set me tank up completley yet so havnt gone back down that road, also if TMC can get a californian that is a bimac then let them have the hassle and if a death occurs then its at their cost and not yours!!!
The key is to having everything in place, and absolutley everything otherwise if theres a hold up whilst in transit over a bit of paperwork your screwed...all for nothin!!!
Also the trick is...if you do it...make sure it has live octopus stickers (it will have the specific shipping code aswell) on it so DEFRA dont go and open it (as they more than likley will with fish, but not octo's) and scare the little monkey to death after he's almost there!!!
Also beware of hidden charges by freight companies, a mate has had stuff sent in a similar fashon from the U.S. and been stung at heathrow for extra bits they pretend they told you about. :x
If I do it Ive spoken with others about gettin eggs aswell, but i wouldnt wait for me, although me tanks almost there its been just over a year now since startin and i cant give no guarantees how how long or short i'll be, although ive had to learn about saltwater from scratch in the process of the yr and havnt wished to leave anything to chance.
Phhhheewwww sorry that was an essay!!! the only way i can explain it thou!!!
Oh an i went to Nottingham once!!! Ran for the Norwich-Liverpool train at Sheffield but it was goin the wrong way I was in Nottingham before I knew it!!!
If me mates hadnt of quashed the apparent 6 to 1 (girls to boys) ratio i'd of been over there in a flash!!! Ha ha!! (no pun intended !!)
BTW to Tonmo, if an octo's what you want this is the place to get your info!!!
I reckon when the tank is fully conditioned etc we'll go down the TMC/LFS route..... but.... if you are thinking about getting round all the import red tape, for babies or eggs then would be really interested to hear how you get on, and maybe buy from you? It would be great if someone could start to breed bimacs in the UK. I'm all for reducing the number of wild specimens caught just so we all can satisfy our curiosity!