Eggs Arrived Today

SueAndHerZoo

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About a year ago I became fascinated with cuttlefish and did all the homework and research, etc. When I was just about to pull the trigger and order some eggs I came into some octo hatchlings so my plan changed quickly. Now that the octos are gone, I decided to pursue my cuttlefish craving again.

I ordered some from NY Aquatics and they arrived today looking fabulous! (or at least from what I've read they should look like). They look like "saltwater grapes" but the sides of a few are translucent enough that I can see cuttles inside!

I know I'm no where near out of the woods since the change in environment / water could cause me to lose them all but I can't believe how exciting this is - I can't stop staring at these little purple balls! :heart:

OK, back to reading...... need to re-educate myself on everything I can about these incredible creatures.
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Make sure you have live food on hand for when they hatch. I kept mysids (and they all ate each other) while I was waiting. It was kind of like insurance, since anything and everything can go wrong when ordering live food to be delivered. Good luck, they look good!
 

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I was just sitting here trying to figure out strategically what day to place an order of live mysids. If I order too soon they will all be dead or cannibalized by the time I need them but if I wait too long my cuttles may go hungry. I was just searching posts to see if I can get some idea of how much time I have before I see a hatchling.

I have another question, totally unrelated to feeding, though. I was reading a journey of someone who raised cuttles from eggs and when it came time to move them from a breeder to another breeder there were quite a few steps taken to transfer them by using a plastic bin, a net, etc. and being careful not to expose the cuttle to air for even a second. Can they not be exposed to air for a few seconds like when you are tranferring fish from one tank to another? And more imporantly, why can't you just carefully pick them up in your fingers and transfer them?

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Welcome back!

It would be great if you would summarize your bimac experience when you have a few minutes.

I have Kordon Fish Catcher that I have used on numerous octos and highly recommend keeping one on hand. It has been very easy to coax the octos into it and the transfers have been stress free.

I believe this article from Thales has been added since your last review of cuttles. There are a few others in the oft missed Ceph care Article section that you may want to review as well.
 

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DWhatley;188878 said:
Welcome back!

It would be great if you would summarize your bimac experience when you have a few minutes. I absolutely will . . . thank you for the reminder and I'm so sorry I was negligent about that.
I have Kordon Fish Catcher that I have used on numerous octos and highly recommend keeping one on hand. It has been very easy to coax the octos into it and the transfers have been stress free. I can understand needing one for octos but what is wrong with simply picking up the tiny cuttles when you're moving them from one breeder net to another? Are we not supposed to touch them at all? Is it critical that they not be exposed to air even for a few seconds?
I believe this article from Thales has been added since your last review of cuttles. There are a few others in the oft missed Ceph care Article section that you may want to review as well.
Thank you for that! I am fumbling around trying to relearn everything I can about the cuttles and you're right - the "Articles" section is not usually the first place I go for some reason.

Stay tuned, and it's great to be back and see so many familiar "faces" here. Thank goodness for all of you. :)
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I can't give you a first hand damage experience of why not to pick them up out of the water but I will give you food for thought having handled octos in and out (mostly dead but occasionally one gets over anxious to explore) of the water. Cephalopods have no supporting bone structure so only water and muscle support their form (octos are almost jelly when young before they develop more muscle). Cuttles do have a "cuttle bone" but that may well go against them when lifting them out of the supporting water by stressing delicate tissue against the ridgid frame (I know one of the physical problems we see is the cuttle bone becoming exposed, theoretically from jetting into solid walls and pushing the hard structure through the soft tissue). When I asked about the baby octos that were under study by Richard Ross and Roy Caldwell 2 years ago, they mentioned that they had heavy early losses due to the stress of taking them out of the water to weight and record their growth.

The reason I suggest the fish catcher over just using a cup is in the design. The long handle and hole at the tall end allows you to scoop or push water and animal into the cup while letting the air escape. It is a simple but very useful design and not overly expensive.
 

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Holy mackeral (or holy cuttlefish!) . . . . the Kordon Fish Catcher is a WONDERFUL invention and solution, but what really blew me away is the price! 89 cents???? Less than one dollar a piece?????? I'm still in shock.... you can't buy anything for less than a dollar and especially not something that clever! Needless to say, I ordered three.

Thanks for the explanation on why not to handle a cuttlefish.... it makes sense. I used to touch and "pet" my octo hatchlings once in a while and had to pick one up when it escaped the tank once but they didn't have the rigid, abrasive spine inside. These Kordon's will be a perfect solution. Off to go read those new articles you pointed me towards.
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LOL, I think their catalog has a decimal place error. I think I paid $6.00 for mine several years ago. Looking around it seems to be running at about $5.00 now. I thought it might be a really small one at $.89 but the listing size is for the one I have and I did not see references to a smaller one. I can understand ordering 3 at this price but you won't need but one :biggrin2:. Even at $10.00 though, it is so much better than a cup that I recommend having one on hand. While looking for your price (I did find it) I noticed it has good reviews in most places. When I transferred Mama Cass to mate with Tatanka (O.briareus), I had to use a water pitcher (she was too big for the catcher) and was reminded of how much simpler it was with this gadget.

The keep them in the water "explanation" is conjecture based upon biology and observation but is not a proven argument. We do know taking them out of the water when they are young is a bad idea but the why's and how long's are not established. As home hobbyists though, erroring on the side of caution when we don't have a testing environment keeps more animals alive.
 

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