Diego - O. bimaculoides

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  1. DWhatley

    DWhatley Cthulhu Staff Member Moderator

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    I have always wanted to keep a bimac but did not have an available cold tank when Zyan raised his and have since dispensed with putting my hand in cold water. However, Joe-Ceph's post of the little male was just too tempting so we spent the weekend getting our small chiller back in working order and attached to the 45 hex. If he outgrows it, then the reef is available with only one critter to displace (it has a chiller) or we can attempt moving the chiller to the tube tank (but I am afraid it may not cool anything larger than the 45 as it is only a 1/10 hp unit). We will have to operate on the sump when the skimmer is shipped and move the chiller pump (sadly the sump pump would not produce enough flow so a second pump was needed. We do have one that might work for both but it is not an exteral unit and this is a "temporary" set up :roll:).

    I had Joe-Ceph ship my very first bimac to the FedEx office that is directly across the street (literally) from my office and arranged to leave early. Shipping FROM California is great since he could deliver it to FedEx by 5:00 CA time and it arrived and was available by noon GA time. I waited until 2:00 so that I would not have to return to work and have to rush the acclimation and then my new little friend came home. Should anyone else need a way to pay for shipping from another origination, FedEx has an excellent set up that will allow you to establish an account, assign a credit card and give authority to ship by a third party without giving administrative rights. All the shipping paperwork can easily be done on-line, including printing the label. There are a few glitches in the software but it was still a great way to accomplish this without COD charges.

    Joe-Ceph shipped him in a round cooler he happened upon for a great used price and it was ideal for octopus transport. There was shed in the water but no smell. My test strips were pretty useless (they had arrived already exposed to moisture and I have not replaced them) but I could at least compare the PH between the shipping water and the tank water. The bag water arrived at 67.5 degrees and the aquarium (using the same thermometer) is running at 69 (my chiller actually reads 71). Salinity was low but the same as the tank (1.022 SG) and I will raise it over the next week. The PH was the main parameter that needed serious matching and because the animal showed no stress (exept in the initial stages where he wanted to stretch his arms :grin:) I took 3 hours to acclimate and then fed him a crab and waited until he ate it before releasing him.
     

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    DWhatley Cthulhu Staff Member Moderator

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    This was an easy release. He was not difficult to coax into the critter keeper the Mike Wise drilled when he sent Octopus Prime. I have used this "holey" container for many releases and recommend coaxing them into a similar container that can drain at the last minute before transfer when dealing with shipping water. He was ready to explore as soon as the container hit the water and only hid for a few seconds. However, the color change was dramatic. He has been out and about exploring most of the early evening and wears very dark chocolate coloration with peach suckers, not the typical bimac look. We are looking for a candy bar name :grin:

     

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    iAlex Vampyroteuthis Registered

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    That dark color surprised me. What is it with you getting all the oddities? ;)
     
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    DWhatley Cthulhu Staff Member Moderator

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    I don't think the color is unusual for this species (note the word think since I have not kept one) but Neal keeps saying "cross breeding!" because we do seem to notice a lot of variation in individual species. I like the chocolate color when he mixes it with whites and oranges so I hope he will maintain them because of the tank but note when he is on the sand his color is closer to what would be expected (but not what I would expect as typical from photos). He has also shown a nice spikey look that I did not expect :grin:
     
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    Lmecher Larger Pacific Striped Octopus Registered

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    Well congratulations and :welcome: to your little chocolate nugget. I see you have an explorer on your hands, crawling out of the bucket, great photo.
    How many does this make? 4? You must be in octopus happy land.

    In the video, he looks more black licorice than chocolate.
     
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    DWhatley Cthulhu Staff Member Moderator

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    Although very dark, it is still brown with peach ruffles (suckers). I am going to pass the name Truffle by Neal to see what he thinks :grin:

    Godiva or Baby Ruth would have been good for a girl (even though the later was named after a male baseball player)

    So far I have considered:
    Reesey, Heath (Neal already said no to Rolo), Ghirardelli (sounds cool but I would have to learn how to spell it), Crunch (I kind of like this one but not fond of the manufacturer), Cadbury (a good friend had a rabbit with this name), Twix (my favorite at the moment), Skor
     
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    Joe-Ceph Haliphron Atlanticus Supporter

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    Looks great! He's been in a 1/3rd full orange 5 gallon bucket for a couple weeks, so I'm sure he's loving his new home.
    The water I sent him in was natural seawater from near where I caught him, so the salinity of 1.022 isn't "low" where he's from, but is lower than what is recommended for people who mix water. I've always wondered if the water around tropical reefs has a higher salinity, or if higher salinity is thought to be better than natural salinity for captive animals.

    I've found bimacs to often have a nice spikey texture, and to often be dark, especially when trying to hide.
     
  8. sedna

    sedna Larger Pacific Striped Octopus Supporter Registered

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    D, that's so awesome! From the release pics, it looks like he's actually trying to climb into the tank, "Yea, I'm home!" I like Heath bars best... "Truffle" is a bit girly for a cool dude from CA!
     
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    Awesome. :welcome:

    I'm so jealous. I have my electrical meter humming cause I'm pulling so much power with my current tanks it makes a chiller out of the question.
     
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    Joe-Ceph Haliphron Atlanticus Supporter

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    When Sedna pointed out that your new octopus is a cool dude from California, it reminded me that Ghirardelli Chocolate was founded in San Francisco (in 1849 by Domingo Ghirardelli), and so is a truly Californian chocolate. You could call your new bimac:
    Domingo
    Ghiradelli
    "G"
    Del
    or some other variation on the theme.​
     
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    Wow - congrats - he's gorgeous! I don't know if it's typical with Bimacs or not but my three hatchlings are often a very dark brown when I sneak up on them and peek. After they realize I'm there they get lighter and show some spots. The dark coloring really surprised me too but now I'm getting used to it.

    Wish there were an "Octopus Whisperer" in the world to help us decipher what their changes and behaviors mean but I guess you guys (and gals) on this forum are the closest thing thing to an Octopus Whisperer I could ask for!
    Sue
     
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    I know you've most likely made a list of names already, but wanted to toss this in for a few more just in case.

    I myself think Vakko is a great male name. Sounds so masculine, and chocolaty. I've had that on my male name list a while.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chocolate_bar_brands

    Although I'm interested in what Épicé would actually taste like it scares me at the same time. :shock:

    Épicé - Painted chocolate bar - Cinnamon, Cayenne and Chipotle chili peppers in dark chocolate

    Prob need a fire extinguisher handy. lol
     
  13. sedna

    sedna Larger Pacific Striped Octopus Supporter Registered

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    Chilis and chocolate, mmmmm... The brand Vosges makes some really incredible chocolate bars, chilis, curries, and ginger and wasabe! Yes, the tongue and throat are left with a deliciously slow burn...

    I like Domingo, but I'm partial to the song by Yello.
     
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    Wow....He's simply adorable! Having had many bimacs...I miss them so much! They are truly the "labrador" of the octopus world! Congrats Di!!!!! How far away are you from Moncks Corner.......hmmmmm....
     
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    Unfortunately Charleston is quite a hike or we would go occassionally to collect food. I am envisioning meeting up in FL after you retire :grin:

    Love the naming suggestions but still looking. Neal came up with Diego and Calicalifornias (after Calimacus) and I nixed them (he even tried calling the octo Diego to see if he could get away with it by default :roll:. So now something relating to his home environment is also on the term search list.

    So far so good. He was out a little tonight after I put a crab in the tank. He did not pounce on it immediately but took a long detour to investigate. I wish that tank was not so hard to photograph but between the hex shape, the windows on both sides and the scratches (very old tank that was purchased used) it is miserable to attempt anything but closeups and those are not anything to write home about.
     
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    sedna Larger Pacific Striped Octopus Supporter Registered

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    I'm feeling the same frustration about getting pics of the new guy! This new briareus is a night owl so far. Curved bow front +red lights only= no good pics!
     
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    DWhatley Cthulhu Staff Member Moderator

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    It looks like I lost this battle. Unless something strikes us in the next 24 hours, Diego it will be (Neal insists on calling him that and then looking sly :roll:).

    Good luck Sedna, I am afraid I will never get good shots of Diego even when he does decide to come out when the lighting is optimum (after sunset). So far tonight, he just sits in his den and makes us disappear :grin:
     
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    LOL Trinity is like that too. Shes young and so she hides often, only coming out when shes hungry.
     
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    His light timer was set too early. When I went over to turn them back on and adjust the timer he was sitting out in front of his den. Neal had thawed a piece of shrimp so I offered it and I don't think he will be hard to please :grin: He was curious about the feeding stick and came out to the front actually LOOKING like a bimac. I guess he decided that was a bit too daring because he did not stay long but when I brought the shrimp close to his den he readily (with out pouncing) took it, peeled it and held the shell, the shrimp and the stick (oh would it be lovely to have eight arms!). Neal claims he was holding onto the shell for desert :grin:
     
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    Joe-Ceph Haliphron Atlanticus Supporter

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    Great news that Diego is eating, and quickly becoming more comfortable and interactive. I like the name, and I hope "he" turns out to be a male after all (any evidence either way?)

    I looked up the dimensions of a 45 hex (actually a pentagon right? Two 22" long sides, three 10.5" sides?). The footprint is only about 22" max length in any direction, and I think the chances that it will eventually be too small for diego are very high. I've kept two bimacs to adulthood, and largest has an arm span of about four feet, while the smaller one was about 40". The sphere-ish shape of a hex (pent) is better at keeping room heat from warming chilled water, but for the same reason (low surface area per gallon) it provides a lot less room to stretch out than a rectangular tank of the same volume. It'll probably be at least six months before it's a problem (if ever) but I think it might be wise to start preparing for the worst early, and keep your eyes open for a good deal on a larger (used) tank. Acrylic conducts only 20% as much heat per hour as glass does, so an acrylic tank will save a little on electricity, and be less likely to have condensation problems (although you should still insulate the bottom, back and maybe sides (and sump) with >= 1" thick Styrofoam. My tank is the equivalent of a 60 gallon (30" x 18" x 25") and I think that it's barely sufficient for my bimac in terms of walk around room. Sorry to nag (but not sorry enough to shut up :smile:)
     

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