So I ordered a new octopus last night! It's coming from Aquatic Connection Live in Florida. They said it is a local atlantic species and is maybe 3 inches long. They have had it (them) for a few weeks and it is eating pieces of squid and silversides right now. From description it sounds like the arms are not as long as Orange's were when compared to it mantel. They will email me when it ships, either today or tomorrow. Notice that I named this one myself!! LOL!! I figure the kids and I can at least take turns when naming them!!