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  1. mcmusashi5

    mcmusashi5 GPO Registered

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    in terms of months how long should the tank be cycled for a cuttle :rainbow:
     
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    3 months is usally how long it takes.
     
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    ty any shorter and the cuttle wont servive?
     
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    any shorter and your tank is likely to be chemically unstable and you will get nitrate/ammonia/pH spikes which can be fatal or at least really difficult to deal with. It takes this long to get all the bacteria established to deal with your cuttles waste (cephs produce WAY more waste than similar sized fish) and messy eating habits.

    There are a number of chemical shortcuts that people use but to my mind the only way to cycle your tank is with patience and taking time!!

    J
     
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    i have a cycle booster how long with that should i cycle
     
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    You can try the booster, but your taking a risk that your cuttle my die. Your choice though.
     
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    The longer you wait the better you'll be.

    A tank is "cycled" when the nitrate, nitrite, ammonia all hit 0, but it takes a lot longer for a tank to be mature. That being said there are a lot of things you can to do to speed up the process, but they all take time too. I've kept live rock in a vat with powerhead and heater for a couple of months to cut down the time it takes for the tank to be ready, this should also help algae blooms since its only been exposed to a small amount of light.
     
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    I used that same stuff it did help it cut about half a month of it but i did see a small amount of ammonia when i added the octo, but it went away in about a week.
     
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    ok so how long are we talking with the booster
     
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    Why not let it mature properly. Increasing the bacteria is not necessarily going to mature the tank to sustain it.
     
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    k thanks for all your help
     
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    A better bacterial booster is Fritz zyme. You need to get the saltwater chemoautotrophic bacteria. This will give you the bacteria that break down ammonia and nitrite. However, the other bacteria that are essential for a reef tank come on the live rock, these bacteria break down all the other organics that pollute your water, and no body sells these in a bottle, thus the recommendation for allowing sufficient time to cycle the tank. Your creating a whole ecosystem here, it takes time.
     
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    i get it so theres more than one kind of bio bacteria
     
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    It would probably be helpful to you to do some basic reading on the nitrogen cycle, then you should understand the different classes of bacteria involved, and that is is not just the size of a given bacterial population, but also it’s constituent strains, that determines whether a tank is able to be able to deal with a sudden surge in bioload (i.e. an animal). Absolutely, definitely also read the threads recommended by cuttlegirl.
    I guess I am wondering the same thing as D; are you in a particular rush? Is there a reason that cycling a tank for at least 3 months before you add a cuttle is not an option?
    Lene
     
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    i already know i was just wondering time
     
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    Like I said you can use it but its only cuts a couple of weeks off. And when i added the octo i saw a little bit of ammonia and nitrite. Lots of people wouldnt recommend it, but your choice. Remember your in charge of the cephalopods life.
     
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