Cuttlefish Availablity

Brock Fluharty

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Good Cthulhu!!! I knew cuttles were smart, but smart enough to hitchhike on your back to the drug store, but some Viagra, and then pop in in the water regularly? Amazing...

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cuttlegirl;83966 said:
Well, they don't have too much else to do in the tank besides eat shrimp - guess they were just trying to keep themselves occupied :wink: while they wait for food...
LMAO... sounds like the hurricane victims in Florida a few years back. 9 months later there was a boom in childbirth.
 

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Hahahaha!

Try giving them some toys or something lol. or, (on a serious note) you could use opaque dividers so they can't get to each other, but that may seem cruel in some people's point of view.
 

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I am not going to separate them at this point, they have been together all of their lives. At least one of the males and Baby A snuggle together in a cave when they rest. I can't imagine that she is going to lay many more eggs - she is already almost 7 months old and she has been laying eggs for two months... and so far (except for these last 4) I have found good homes for all of the eggs. I have a few weeks until they hatch to find a good home.
 

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Am I just ignorant about S. bandensis or isn't it very abnormal for any ceph to keep eating and living after laying eggs? I thought it was pretty much universal that reproduction was the end of life, but from your reports, Baby A and her dudes aren't showing any signs of slowing down... are bandensis or cuttles in general an exception to the rule? I know apama die around when their eggs hatch, and I know most, if not all, octopods do too... not sure if anyone knows about vampyrotethis, and I don't know about nautilus (but I have a few books that probably do).

So, am I the only one perplexed by this?
 

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And the enormous amount of eggs they are producing. I'm very surprised they haven't all died from exhaustion. What are you feeding the adults?
 

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monty;83994 said:
Am I just ignorant about S. bandensis or isn't it very abnormal for any ceph to keep eating and living after laying eggs? I thought it was pretty much universal that reproduction was the end of life, but from your reports, Baby A and her dudes aren't showing any signs of slowing down... are bandensis or cuttles in general an exception to the rule? I know apama die around when their eggs hatch, and I know most, if not all, octopods do too... not sure if anyone knows about vampyrotethis, and I don't know about nautilus (but I have a few books that probably do).

So, am I the only one perplexed by this?
I think that Sepia produce eggs over a period of time. The NRCC probably knows more about it than me. Nautilus produce their eggs over a period of years - but only a few at a time - their eggs look really weird, kind of like a chinese dumpling. The eggs are white, opaque and kind of hard (it feels like flexible plastic). You cannot see the embryo developing inside, you have to open the egg to see development. When a young Nautilus is about to hatch, you can see the shell peeking through the top of the egg.

Some things I am surprised about my cuttles are:

1. They are continuing to mate (maybe they can't store sperm like octopus?).

2. Maternal care - I have seen the female blow water over the eggs.

3. Paternal guarding while the female is laying eggs - I have observed this several times.
 

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Brock Fluharty;84004 said:
And the enormous amount of eggs they are producing. I'm very surprised they haven't all died from exhaustion. What are you feeding the adults?
Actually, I don't think 100 eggs is actually that many - Nautilus is probably the only living cephalopod that produces less. Granted cuttlefish eggs are bigger and cost more energy to produce than octopus eggs, but octopus can have thousands of eggs.

I feed the adults live shore shrimp and occassionally frozen krill. Yesterday (for fun) I offered raw shrimp from the grocery store - it was hilarious, the shrimp were twice the mantle length and Scrunchy decided to attack and eat it - I videotaped it and as soon as I figure out how to transfer it to my computer, I will post the video.
 

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Cuttles for sale?

I tried to contact you a couple days ago regarding your cuttles, I am interested if you still have any. I'm new to this website and don't know what the easiest way to contact you would be. If you get this message maybe you could contact me. Even if you don't have any I'd like to line something up for the future. Thank You, Christopher.
 

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Hopefully I will have some available in the next few months. I prefer to raise the hatchlings myself for about a month because they have such a dismal survival rate; month or two olds seem to do better and are easier to feed.
 

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Thanks for the responses to my question regargarding cuttlefish availability. I've absolutely facinated with cuttles since I saw a program about them on tv about 5 years ago or so. I've had aquariums off and on my whole life but got hooked on African Cichlids about 7-8 yrs ago. I've been breeding wild caught Africans for about 4 yrs now and currently have 18 tanks in my basement for my Africans rangeing from 55's down to my 2's for my fry. I have 3 saltwater tanks which I keep upstairs a 90, a 75, and a 30 which I just got ready for my mysids which I plan on ordering today. In the past three years I haven't lost a single saltwater fish to disease or water condition. I've had all sorts of saltwater fish and now I just keep my big guys my eel, grouper, trigger and tang. I decided to go with my 75 for like 3-5 bandensis and getting rid of alot of my Africans so I can breed mysids. I've never had a ceph but I've been doing a lot of reasearch and am going to give it my all. I want to raise some cuddle so I can learn as much as I can so eventually I can get some for CB. I would love to help reduce the number of people who get them from the ocean, plus breeding a cuttlefish has got to be the most exciting thing ever. I do have a few questions on cuttle care. First, how much water current would be to much and how would I know? Second, I'm a big fan of hydro sponge filters and had an idea to have two hydro sponges both rated for 80 gallons in each corner with a 350gph powerhead on each one and connecting the powerhaeds with a custom spraybar. I figured if I drilled small holes all the way down the bar and angleing the bar with the water moving up and hitting the glass at an angle that reduces water current but still filtering lots of water I was also gonna put extra carbon in the cage in the center of the sponge, also gonna cage the sponges with small plasic cage thats screened from the inside??? Third, I have a protien skimmer that rated for a 75g but read more is better so I got another one and now have 2 skimmers but I don't have a sump hooked up so I'm worried about too much water movement, I'm gonna do my best to reduce water movement as much as possible. I think the setup will be ample filtration combined with my emperor 400 biowheel loaded with carbon and my canister filter and 80-90lbs of live rock, enough filtration? Fourth, what exact size net breeder is best to ensure little cuddles find there food? I know my question aren't very organized but but would greatly appreciate any advise I can get, and if I have to have a sump then a sump I will have. Thank you all for your help, this website is awesome.
 

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I live in the UK and just wondering if anyone knows if and where i could get hold of some tank reared dwarf cuttles (or eggs). Have kept a dwarf octo and would like to have a go with cuttles but cant find them anywhere.
Any help appreciated
Bobby
 

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Colin lives in your side of the world and may be more knowledgeable of resources there. You can pm him herehttp://www.tonmo.com/community/index.php?members/5/I would actually love to get my hands on some officianalis. Not dwarf, but very personable. They arent available in the U.S. anymore. They are probably more common where you are. Too bad we cant just set up a trade =)
 

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To be honest I don't have my finger on the pulse any more with regards to getting Sepia over here. Been a while since I have kept any.

Bobby, you could try phoning TMC in Manchester, speak to Andy Lister, also a member here and he might be able to tell you what's about, they only sell to shops but they could sell to a shop local to you where you can pick them up. Probably eggs?

Phone number is 0161 946 1538

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Thanks for that Colin. I'll give that a try. I work in a shop and go to TMC at Chorleywood or Bristol fairly regularly to get fish and inverts for the shop so that isnt a problem.
Thanks
Bobby
 

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