Colorvision

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  1. johfro

    johfro Larval Mass Registered

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    Hello all!

    Does anyone know if octopuses have colorvision or do the only see b/w?

    /johfro
     
  2. OctopusV

    OctopusV GPO Registered

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    From what I've heard, they're colorblind. That's supposed to be why their clor change repetoire is so amazing.
     
  3. Burstsovenergy24

    Burstsovenergy24 Larger Pacific Striped Octopus Supporter

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    Ive heard they are colorblind too. . . (And so am I :cry: )
     
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    Hmm

    if they are colour blind how can they tell that they are changing colour? :rainbow:
     
  5. Burstsovenergy24

    Burstsovenergy24 Larger Pacific Striped Octopus Supporter

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    Maybe they see everything in 0's and 1's. . .

    (Like me. . . j/k) :heee:
     
  6. joel_ang

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    We're not too sure, but we think that they see colours in different shades of grey, to match they put on the same colours as what they see. But its a theory and we're not 100% sure.
     
  7. Nancy

    Nancy Titanites Staff Member Moderator

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    I believe I saw a reference to a recent investigation showing that octopuses could distinguish between blue and pink.

    At any rate, I think we'll be hearing more about this - there has to be some way they can match colors around them so well, and grays won't do it! Those of you who have kept octopuses know that they can disappear by matching the rock around them, even when it's colorful with coralline algae.

    Nancy
     
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    I am by no means a science major, but if I remember correctly from my days in Bio 1 and Bio 2, an Octopus's/Squid's eyes are just as complex as the human eye. Based on that, we do know for sure that their eyes are light sensitive and are definitely able to see in black and white. And if I'm know mistaken, they are only able to change to colors because they see on a gray scale. But nobody knows everything...

    If I'm wrong about this, let me know!
    Ciao!
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  9. Architeuthis

    Architeuthis Pygmy Octopus Registered

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    nocolor

    Octopus eyes can only see in black and white, at least thats what I've heard. They do, however, have pretty good night vision. And I believe they have some sort of sensors that work with the chromataphores. :?:
     
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    monty Colossal Squid Staff Member Supporter

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    Re: nocolor

    I have also read/seen the claim that cephalopods can only see in black and white, although I haven't heard of any "sensors that work with the cromataphores"; I know that cuttlefish use their eyesight to match the environment-- blind cuttlefish lose their camouflage abilities. There is some TV show that demonstrates that they can only match the texture, rather than the color, when put in a tank with garish yellow and blue goldfish-bowl rocks.

    More for the vision thread, though, it has been shown that octopi, at least, can see polarization of light... if I remember right, there were also experiments that showed that they could distinguish between horizontal and vertical lines ( - | ) but not left-diagonal and right-diagonal ( / \ ).
     
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    Apparently octopuses can distinguish only certain colours, to them, red and green look the same. Probably a reason why you don't see live green octos.
     
  12. cthulhu77

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    Well, to say that any animal is "color-blind" is a rather misleading statement...early dissections theorized that since non H.sapiens eyes don't have the same structure, of course the eye must be more primitive or lacking the ability to see in colour.
    I can't say much about cephalopod eyes...I never dissected one (spent all my semester lab time on the muscle structure of loligo beaks) , but I have found out that a lot of "accepted" truths are based in broo-hoo-ha.
    I am sure one of our academics can put this issue to rest. :grad:
    greg
     
  13. Burstsovenergy24

    Burstsovenergy24 Larger Pacific Striped Octopus Supporter

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    LOL! Same as me. :|
     
  14. cthulhu77

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    Hehe...BOE, we should put you in a tank and see if you can change your skin texture too! What a great superhero you would be!
    "It's Cuttleman!"
     
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    Burstsovenergy24 Larger Pacific Striped Octopus Supporter

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    I dont know whether to be pissed or laughing. :|
     
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    Do you have an ink sac too, Cuttleman?

    :cuttle:
     
  17. joel_ang

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    so ure red green colour blind?
     
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    5 or 2

    Hey BOE nice color page!

    I can see all of the numbers... but on the last one

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    I see the 5, but if I squint my eyes almost shut, the 5 turns into the 2. :bugout:

    Does squinting affect colour vision or is it something else :?: at work
     
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