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Steve O'Shea

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#1
Anyone (other than TTF and Phil) want to guess what the attached image is? Yes, it's from a cephalopod, but that's the only clue.

I've deliberately textured the image (bricks) - sorry everyone, but this one is embargoed.

Me
 

WhiteKiboko

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#3
its obvious that theyre the initial stage of an octoparrot's feathers....


hmm... i dunno... maybe some type of velcro type appendages on or around the suckers used for a better grip?
 

thom

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#4
Well, they look like dermal denticles of sharks, so i searched for dentacles on tonmo, and the answer is on this very site i believe :)

Richard Ellis' review of "the BEAST" mentions microscopic denticles on the tongue of an Architeuthis...

is this the answer?

Cheers,

Thomas.
 

Steve O'Shea

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#5
This is the kind of answer I was expecting (and what others may-well have assumed in the fossil record also), but it's not the right answer.

Exactly what is a radula?
What exactly is a 'denticle'?
What is the tongue of an Architeuthis (or any mollusc)?

No, these are not radular [adj.] structures, and not associated with the 'toungue'. but you're warm.

It's pretty sensational stuff!
 

Fujisawas Sake

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Is it the nacreous layer of a nautilus shell? :P



"He thought: Very well. I am now a man with no food, with two less fingers and one less toe than I was born with; I am a gunslinger with shells which may not fire; I am sickening from a monster's bite and have no medicine; I have a day's water if I'm lucky; I may be able to walk perhaps a dozen miles if I press myself to the last extremity. I am, in short, a man on the edge of everything."

- Roland Deschain, Last in the line of Arthur Eld
From The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger by Stephen King
 

tonmo

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#12
Hmmm, tongue was my only guess, same reference as Thom's (Richard Ellis book)... but I've got nothing else; I'm stumped... wonder what species this is... (request for hint fully embedded)
 

Architeuthoceras

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#13
Usually only hard parts of animals are fossilized.

Cephalopod Hard Parts:
  1. External Chambered Shell
  2. Internal Gladius/Pen/Rostrum
  3. Aptychus (Jaws, Beak, Opercullum)
  4. Radular Elements
  5. Tentacle hooks/Sucker Rings
  6. Statoliths

I'll choose tentacle hooks just to choose something :)

Unless someone can add something to the list :shock:
 

Jean

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#14
hmmmmm inner portion of the Buccal mass where the wings of the beak attach????????????????????????????? Guessing here!


J
 

Steve O'Shea

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#16
Sorry to keep texturing these things; the reasons will become all-too apparent in Tonmo time.

Attached is a radula (textured); nope, the earlier image is no radula; neither is it hook, shell nor of gladius origin. People have been warm .... but you'll need to do a lot of digging to find out what these structures are, because as far as I know they really haven't been reported in detail to date.

I don't want to tell you what it is, simply because it's an interesting way to learn about anatomy if you figure it out for yourself (boring if I blurt something out, don't you think?).
 

Clem

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#18
Steve O'Shea said:
Exactly what is a radula?
What exactly is a 'denticle'?
What is the tongue of an Architeuthis (or any mollusc)?
Dear Steve,

Well...gah. Structures for pulping food and moving them down the gullet, I guess. If you didn't have grinding teeth or a radular tongue, you might want some kind of internal structure to grind up the food before it was digested.

Ah, I've got it, you found a Sarlacc.

:wink:

Clem
 

um...

Architeuthis
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#19
Is it a piece of the interior lining of the gizzard of a rainforest nautilus? Because that's what it looks like.
 

HEAndrews

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#20
guess

Hi this is definitely a guess, well first picture would have said radula but has it is not, i have no idea is the picture up side down lol. The second picture guess again is it some kind of cilia in the digestive tract.
:bugout:
 

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