I have setup a source for everyone here: http://www.aquaticcritter.com/ Call them and ask for Chris, the owner or Wes which does the ordering, Wes does the ordering and they will get them quick for you. Tell them that Jim sent you, they know me soooo well. The octos come from the west coast. I have called Chris to let him know that members of this forum may call to order and he will know who you are if you mention this site. Nancy, I apologize for not posting this sooner, work has had me covered up. I still need to ID my Barney, he is doing fantastic!!!