Can I touch my octopus?

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To be honest I was considering letting him go into the ocean, I am starting to feel a bit guilty about keeping such a smart animal locked in a tank. I didn't realize they were actually fairly smart until I bought him and started reading about him.

DO NOT RELEASE IT IN TO THE WILD!!! Give it back to the store, or find someone that wants it. You can spread foreign organisms by releasing him you could cause and ecological catastrophe. Worse case senario freeze it and donate it for scientific research, but please please please dont release him into the wild.
 

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I would say more curiosity than anything else. I am wondering about the tank size too. Hope you have a good sealed lid, mine was always climbing out and shooting me w/his cannon. I don't understand why you'd want to get rid of it? What is the reason? Too aggressive? Are you scared of it? Yes they are very intelligent, sometimes they get a look in their eyes like they are trying to figure things out. You should give it some toys to play with. It will keep him occupied however, mine was very preoccupied with me and getting my attention. He sure is a beauty, I'd give anything to get one like that.
 

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I think those lazy eyes are pretty much a give away for vulgaris. He is a real prize and a nice initial size but tank size is likely to be a concern as these are the biggest octopuses we keep. As CaptFish strongly points out, once an animal has been put into an aquarium, it should never be returned to the ocean so if you can't house it, please try to find another aquarium home. If you are willing to try to ship it, there may be keepers on TONMO with an appropriate tank available. Your LSF may be willing to take it back since an O. mercatoris is a dwarf species and at the farthest end of the tank requirement spectrum. If you decide to raise it, please journal him with us as we don't have many histories of this wonderful species.
 

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By the look of the arm length, I'd guess he is not full grown. He looks very much like Diablo when I got him. This octopus will get very large. mantle 5-6" and arms 18'+. A very large tank is a must, at least 100 gallons or more. Mine was in a 120. I am very jealous :sagrin:
 

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Hm. Well, he is in a 29gal bio tank. The lid is obviously on there good, I also tape it down at night just to be safe. He has already ended up crawling around the carpet once. He also ripped my water heater bottom off and he refuses to let me clean the tank with the little magnet things, he always will come out and run off with the inside half of the cleaner.

The reason I was thinking of getting rid of him was because unlike having fish who just swim around and are happy to be alive I feel like this thing is a little too smart to be kept locked up in a tank and should be free to swim around.

That being said, this is the other octopus they had and this is how my octopus was being housed only my octpus's cage was much smaller than this guy: http://i.imgur.com/Z4fDI.jpg

here is a picture of my full tank, its a square shape and 29gal, not that big I know: http://i.imgur.com/6bVj3.jpg

how big a tank should he be in and what should I use as a toy? That orange thing you see is a little rubber ball, I was pushing it down by flicking it with my finger earlier tonight and he would reach out and grab it, gold it for a few seconds, then let go. Then I'd push it down to him again and he would grab it again. We did that about 6 or 7 times and then he got bored of it and would grab the ball anymore lol, what kind of stuff do they play with?
 

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sounds like 30gal is not nearly big enough...its either 30gal or a coffee can at the fish store at this point. meh...now I feel even worse about the whole situation...
 

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What an animal is temporarily housed in at an LSF is not something you can use for comparison and the water exchange in most LFS set ups far exceeds the 29 gallon tank where he now resides. The 29 is too small and you will need to do something very, very soon. One inking event in a tank that small could be fatal, the water will pollute very quickly just from food consumption and waste production (while you are deciding what to do, daily water changes are recommended) and providing enough oxygen is not possible. This little guy will double in size in a month and needs more water volume to survive.
 

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hmm

that would explain why I had to do a water change today. They said my numbers were off the charts and I needed to do a 50% water change ASAP. I think maybe they don't know much about octopuses? I don't know but they never said the tank was too small or anything.

So, now what? My choices are to sell him, let him go, or return him to the store I guess. Or freeze him like someone said but I def won't do that.

meh this sucks...
 

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how big a tank should he be in
120 gallon is typically recommended for these. Vulgaris is the largest of the octopuses commonly kept by hobbyists. they have the potential to have a spread of over 3 feet.


Hard to say what the other one is. it could be another Vulgaris, but it may be a Hummelincki, being that it is showing no color or distinguishing marks, I'm just guessing based on arm to mantle ration and location. .
 

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