Baby Cuttlefish behevior?

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  1. CephBoyBT

    CephBoyBT Pygmy Octopus Registered

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    My baby cuttle fish sits on the bottom of the net breeder and is not eating the ampdhiopds I am offering. Is this normal? I am trying to catch mysis out of my other tank but they're too quick. I can only catch about 15 a day.When should I offer him shore shrimp?
    Thanks-Blake
     
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    Thales Colossal Squid Staff Member Moderator

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    For the first month of two they don't move around that much - I assume thats a 'don't eat me' behavior.
    When did the cuttle hatch? How big is it compared to the pods?
    10 mysids a day for a single baby cuttle should be more than enough.
    Sometimes I don't see them eat for the firs couple of weeks - they may be eating at night.

    They can have shore shrimp when they are big enough. 3/4 of an inch or so. It will be a trial and error, if the cuttle isn't ready, it won't go after the shrimp.
     
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    I don't know when the cuttle hatched(see my other post)I am guessing recently because of his size.I gave him pods of all sizes. Some are almost as big as him. and some are as big as his tentacles.Will he wait to eat until I leave?
     
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    Whatever you do, do not stop offering more food. It may behoove you to remove what food is already in the tank and either re-offer that food, or offer new food. This is purely from my observations but some cephalopods seem to develop and tank-mate syndrome with prey items not eaten right away. These prey items can be removed and re-offered and the animal will go right after it. Perhaps it has something to do with the reaction of the prey item in that stressful situation, and once it is not eaten it is able to adapt to its new environment and does not display typical behavior of a prey item.... :grad::roflmao:

    Cuttlefish and squid especially are very vision oriented in regards to predation so keep that in mind when offering food to it.

    Good luck,

    Greg
     
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    Thales Colossal Squid Staff Member Moderator

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    Link please!

    I agree with Greg about moving the uneaten food animals out of the tank - specially with hatchlings. But, don't stop feeding it!

    Maybe, thats what the night thing I talked about last post was about. :smile:
     
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    Link: http://www.tonmo.com/community/index.php?threads/8919/

    Thank you guys so much.
    If I ordered mysis from the aquaculture store.com tomorrow(Sunday) when would they arrived?Monday?
    I am having trouble catching the mysis in my tank.

    I hope this guy lives other wise I will want to try again with new eggs. I have been bitten by the cuttle bug.
     
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    Will they mysis be able to survive being shipped 2 days and not overnight?
     
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    Paradox Haliphron Atlanticus Supporter

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    They probably wont respond to you until monday.

    Try siphoning the mysids out of your tank with a tube. This is probably easier then a net.
     
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    monty Colossal Squid Staff Member Supporter

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    I think Monday is a post office holiday this week, too. I don't know if it counts as a holiday for UPS, FedEx, and DHL, though.
     
  10. Thales

    Thales Colossal Squid Staff Member Moderator

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    The mysis from aquaculture store usually do just fine with 2 or 3 day shipping.
    When you place the order doesn't necessarily have anything to do with when it gets shipped. I usually send an email asking when they think they will ship it - Sometimes an order placed on Monday doesn't ship till Thursday.
     
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    I emailed them and they said shipping on tuesday and get to me on thursday. I went and got a brine shrimp net today. I'll try that tonight. I still haven't seen him eat. The food goes right in front of him and he just sits there like he's dead.
     
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    Thales Colossal Squid Staff Member Moderator

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    Yep - they do that.
     
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    Why won't he eat? The mysis goes right by him and he just sits there.Is that normal for the first few days or what?
     
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    Thales Colossal Squid Staff Member Moderator

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    Yep they do that.
     
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    My experience with priority mail shipping and mysids is poor. 3/5 times that I order they arrive dead. I get stryo and a heatpack but they still don't do well. My guess is that it's the cold weather here. You also should get them out of the bag right when you get them because I have had a batch of shore shrimp that were fine upon arrival die 5 hours later because of the NO3 in the bag. I opened up the bag and floated it when I got them so they would have O2 and when I came home they were dead :/.
     
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    Animals die because the toxicity of the ammonia is held in check by the lower pH in the bag due to the co2 built up in the bag during transport. Once you open the bag and release the co2 the ammonia becomes rapidly toxic. Float the back to equalize the temp's but don't open it till you are ready to get them into their holding tank.

    Utah shipping is hard. I lost a batch in transit due to the cold recently too.
     
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    Thanks for the info Thales! Next time if I don't have time to put the shrimp away I won't open up the bag. The cold weather is one of the reasons I am not selling my cuttles for another month. I think they would be fine in the care of someone else right now, but I want to wait until spring when the temperatures are closer to moderate than extreme cold.

    On a side note Thales- I heard that you and Adam Blundell are in the process of writing an article about cuttle care. Do you have any info you can disclose about it yet >.>?
     
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    Are we? :grin: We were just talking about possibly writing something together, but thats where we stopped. I hope it happens, cause it sounds like fun! I am very much looking forward to meeting him at the midwest frag fest. :D
     
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    Cuttlefish is still alive and I saw him go for a amphipod today. He must be eating if he is still alive.
     

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