Algae Troubles

Discussion in 'Tank Talk' started by marineboy, Jul 26, 2006.

  1. marineboy

    marineboy Wonderpus Registered

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2005
    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ok, since the thread "starting my saltwater tank" I have been succesful in creating a stable and healthy environment for a couple marine species found off the California coast.

    But I have had trouble recently with algae. It is a thin layer of orange-like algae that has grown on all the walls of the tank and on the inside chamber of my SeaClone protein skimmer. Can I just scrape it off with an algae scraper? Or is there a reason its growing on my tank? Its getting hard to see the tank with it blurring up the glass!

    thanks,

    ~Michael
     
  2. Nancy

    Nancy Titanites Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2002
    Messages:
    5,584
    Likes Received:
    71
    Location:
    Dallas Texas
    I'm unfamiliar with orange algae, but any algae can be scraped off and siphoned out in a water change. Some types of snails will eat the algae and keep your tank clean, too. Perhaps someone familiar with the California sea life could recommend some algae eaters for you.

    Nancy
     
  3. clownfish

    clownfish Vampyroteuthis Registered

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2005
    Messages:
    439
    Likes Received:
    0
    i had a similar problem but with bubble algea try a clean up crew ( a bunch of snails and hermits, and mabe a sea star that should clean up your tank in a few weeks and keep it that way until you get an octopus to eat them.
     
  4. Tako_Poke

    Tako_Poke O. vulgaris Registered

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2006
    Messages:
    94
    Likes Received:
    0
    Behold!!! The moon snail! Tremble in fear at the all consuming destroyer of algae! To simply look upon the beast is to see the death of all aquatic plantlife! Revel in its glory as your eyes burn within their sockets and your mind screams out in chorus with your mouth at the site of that which should not be seen.
    Oh wait... No no sorry they eat clams. But you might try some sea hares. They are especially good with hair algae.
    So yeah... I hear they are native to calif. Id get one if I were you. Good luck with algae.
    -Nick
     
  5. cthulhu77

    cthulhu77 Titanites Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2003
    Messages:
    6,642
    Likes Received:
    2
    Check your phosphate levels...you may need to do some water changing when you start to see matting algaes, especially the red/orange varieties.
     
  6. monty

    monty Colossal Squid Staff Member Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2004
    Messages:
    4,887
    Likes Received:
    11
    Yeah, I see sea hares a lot around Laguna, so I bet they're pretty common down by you. They're pretty big, though, and I have no idea what they eat... There are also those little black turban snails that live around tidepools on the whole CA coast... but again, I don't know what these eat, just that they're common, and fit in your theme for "local intertidal life."
     
  7. Tako_Poke

    Tako_Poke O. vulgaris Registered

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2006
    Messages:
    94
    Likes Received:
    0
    Seahares are extremely usefull for eating unwanted algae, but watch out they will also eat the wanted macro algae too. What kind are there in califorinia? I had an eared sea hare and it got HUGE. What kind of tank of tank does marineboy have?
     
  8. marineboy

    marineboy Wonderpus Registered

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2005
    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    0
    an 18 gallon running on the berlin system with 6 pieces of live rock and assorted southern california inertidal life. (sculpins, hermits, minnows, and so forth)
     
  9. marineboy

    marineboy Wonderpus Registered

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2005
    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    0
    do you think that a bat star could solve the problem? I see turban snails all the time and small sea hares to but the sea hares release there digestive system when they are threatened so I think they may mess up the tank. I was thinking of adding a bat star very soon anyway but I thought that all sea stars eat mussels and other bi-valves...

    ~Michael
     
  10. cuttlegirl

    cuttlegirl Colossal Squid Supporter Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2005
    Messages:
    4,891
    Likes Received:
    236
    Location:
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Bat stars usually eat stuff they find on the bottom of the ocean, I can't remember if they eat algae, but they might...

    Turban snails will probably help with the algae problem.

    Sea hares (Aplysia californica) release purple ink, and sea cucumbers release their "guts". Sea hares may be ok, but they are pretty delicate and if they die, they will affect your water chemistry. I wouldn't recommend them unless you can get your tank temperature 68 or under...

    Sea cucumbers eat detritus, and are more delicate than sea hares, so I wouldn't recommend them for your tank either, plus they don't eat algae.

    Not all sea stars eat bivalves...

    Good luck, it is probably related to your tank cycling and remember some algae is good.
     
  11. Tako_Poke

    Tako_Poke O. vulgaris Registered

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2006
    Messages:
    94
    Likes Received:
    0

    Bat stars do eat algae, as well as other stars and worms. Ive always wanted a sea star in my aquarium, but they are hard to find here. Are they abundant in your tidepools? Also sea hares really arent that fragile or at least the ones I keep. Yesterday I had one really messed up by my filter but it recovered pretty good. However I found out that californian sea hares can grow up to 16 inches! So im not sure if they would fit your tank.
     
  12. marineboy

    marineboy Wonderpus Registered

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2005
    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    0
    many species in my tank will eventually grow to big but I will just release them at that point. I come by sea stars pretty often since I know where to look.

    bad/good news, im being forced to buy a chiller in this heat wave...I found the tank at 82 degrees one afternoon when I was out for only a couple hours. I rushed to chill it down and was lucky to suffer no losses.
    But im not going to wait and let it happen again.

    ~Michael
     
  13. DHyslop

    DHyslop Architeuthis Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2004
    Messages:
    1,713
    Likes Received:
    3
    Michael,

    Have you tried setting up a fan over the open top of the aquarium? Try that a while before shelling out big bucks for a chiller.

    1 gallon of water evaporating = 7000 BTU of cooling
     
  14. marineboy

    marineboy Wonderpus Registered

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2005
    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    0
    Its to hard to angle a fan over the tank with having it fall into the drink...

    chiller sounds needed to and freezing all this stuff every day just to cool off the tank for a little is becoming tiring...
     
  15. DHyslop

    DHyslop Architeuthis Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2004
    Messages:
    1,713
    Likes Received:
    3
    Look for a fan that has a clip so you can mount it to the rim of the tank.

    A couple weeks ago we had a big heatwave here. I checked the temp one afternoon and it was 86 degrees! I ran to Walmart, put two small (30 watt) fans on the tank, and it was under 80 by the time I went to bed. Now that's fast! The fans were $8 each. A chiller would have been hundreds (and really noisy!).

    Dan
     
  16. Paradox

    Paradox Haliphron Atlanticus Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2005
    Messages:
    720
    Likes Received:
    1
    I use a 10 dollar wallmart fan.. drops 75 gallon volume 4-5 degrees.

    Youll probably want some auto-top off though for evaporation
     
  17. Paradox

    Paradox Haliphron Atlanticus Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2005
    Messages:
    720
    Likes Received:
    1
    Also, the algae you are mentioning may be diatoms..Which is a normal part of the cycling process and takes a while to burn out. can you describe it more? Is it just a thin layer or is it sludgey or hair?
     
  18. marineboy

    marineboy Wonderpus Registered

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2005
    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    0
    its a thick orange sludgy substance thats all over the walls of the tank. scrubbing and getting replacement water sounds a little much so I think I will just get a bat star and a fan.

    (sorry for repost so late I was on vacation for a while)
     
  19. William Tyson

    William Tyson Vampyroteuthis Registered

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2005
    Messages:
    410
    Likes Received:
    4
    it may be a form of cyano bacteria, i have had the orangish red variety
     
  20. cthulhu77

    cthulhu77 Titanites Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2003
    Messages:
    6,642
    Likes Received:
    2
    phosphate level????
     

Share This Page