A few Q's before i get my octo tomorrow.

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  1. Chef Reef

    Chef Reef O. vulgaris Registered

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    I have a few questions before i get my octo tomorrow.

    1. do i need to cover my koralias?

    2. i have corals in the tank and need to know if any i need to move to a dif tank for octo saftey.
    a. rics, yumas, shrooms
    b. hammer coral
    c. tube nem
    d. kenya tree
    e. xenia
    f. monti caps
    g. zoanthids

    3. will it eat sally light foot crabs? iv been picking them up for it but never heard of them eating them. (they were free)
    a. if not i have other things to feed it.

    4. is it ok with a SSS (sand sifting stafish)?

    Thanks for the info.
     
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    cuttlegirl Colossal Squid Supporter Registered

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    :welcome: How big is your tank? You need to cover any intakes, out-takes, holes, cracks or anything else your octopus could reach. Think of it like "baby-proofing" your tank. The octopus may do some rearranging of your corals and rocks to make a den. Anything that might sting your octopus should be removed.
     
  3. Animal Mother

    Animal Mother Architeuthis Supporter

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    I would get rid of the Hammer. Euphyllia's have pretty potent stings.

    Yes, it will most likely eat the sally lightfoots.

    The starfish will be fine as far as the octo is concerned.
     
  4. DWhatley

    DWhatley Cthulhu Staff Member Moderator

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    I have only kept two octo species (so far :grin:) and have only attempted a few additional critters but so far I have found that anything with longer tentacles seems to irritate the octo's skin (immediate reaction like touching something hot) but shorter tentacled zoos/polyps don't seem to be a problem. However, I have only put a few polyps in the tank so the generalization might not hold up. If you see your octo touch something and react, I would suggest removing it.

    Most starfish tend to ignore and be ignored by the octos and they make good clean-up crew for a critter that is hard to have clean-up that is not snack. Animal Mother had a potential issue with a Bahama Star that may have trapped on octo in its den and killed it and the reputation of the green serpents is worth noting but the SSS will be fine.

    There are several of us that use the koralias and have had no problems leaving them uncovered, however, the size of your octopus, the size and location of the pump may be something to consider. I did not have one in with my Mercs but have one, uncovered, in Octane's tank (Octane is a mid size octo, the Mercatoris are dwarfs) that does a good job collecting sucker shed but has not been a problem with arms.

    Kenya and Zenia should not be a problem for the Octo but may get dislocated or pulled up. If a tube nem is a feather duster (?) with a soft tube, it may also suffer damage from the swimming/climbing but otherwise not be a problem. If it is an anemone with sweeping tentacles, I would remove it.

    I have not heard of anyone trying a sally lightfoot as food or tank mate. Chances are pretty good that the octo will attempt a catch, especially if they are common to their natural environment. Feeding has been an interesting topic in that almost all species seem to like fiddler crabs but everything else is kind of hit or miss, fresh shrimp coming high in the list for the larger species.

    It is helpful to all of us if you would start a single thread in the journal section, titling it with the octos name and species and maintaining it through the life of the octopus.

    Welcome and good luck with your new buddy.
     
  5. Chef Reef

    Chef Reef O. vulgaris Registered

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    thanks for the info. i will watch with the zoa's and stuff i have about 500+ zoa polyps in the tank. . and its not a feather duster its a tube anenome. its not that strong stinging i dont think. and it is a 55 gal tank that is covered. im hoping that the octo will be a bimac, but like every LFS they really dont know what it is. I "THINK" he said it was mid atlantic species
     
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    DWhatley Cthulhu Staff Member Moderator

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    Chef Reef,
    If it is a mid-Atlantic species, it is not a bi-mac as they are from the colder Pacific Ocean. An Atlantic species is likely to be better for you though as it will acclimate to the assumed 75-78 degree reef where a bimac needs temperatures below 72.
     
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    Chef Reef O. vulgaris Registered

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    what type of octo could it be? how large do they typicaly get? i had a feeling it wasnt a bi-mac but was hoping it would be. i have a chiller if needed as well. any way to get a good general idea what it may be by paterns or eye spots?
     
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    Question B can't be answered without first knowing the answer to question A :smile:

    Take a look at the Journals and Photos Forum to see some of the octopuses kept by members (Here is a link to Octane's journal: http://www.tonmo.com/community/index.php?threads/8759/ ).

    When you get him, post pictures in the ID Request forum. Usually it is a good idea to try to get a few photos while you are acclimating as often an octopus will stay hidden for a week or two until it is comfortable in its new environment.
     
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    Chef Reef O. vulgaris Registered

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    ok thanks for the help :)
     
  10. Animal Mother

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    If it's Atlantic, and it's not a dwarf, it will most likely be an O. hummelincki (like Octane) an O. briareus (like Kalypso) or an O. vulgaris (no current journals at this time). There's always the chance that it could be another species but these are the most commonly collected octopus species at the moment.
     
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    Chef Reef O. vulgaris Registered

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    what would a dwarf mid atlantic be? thats what the guy said it was gonna be. turns out i cant pick it up till today inbout 3 hours.
     
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    gholland Haliphron Atlanticus Supporter

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    Probably O. mercatoris. Post pics of the acclimation because you may not get another good photo opportunity for a while.
     
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    Chef Reef O. vulgaris Registered

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    im just trying to decide what to get. i can get a atlantic speices that "could" be a dwarf today. or i can get one thats not a dwarf on tuesday. im just trying to see which would be best to get as it is my first octo. also i would like to get something that is daynural. (sp)
     
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    Chef Reef O. vulgaris Registered

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    Or i can get one from the pacific but they will not give me a guarantee on it. if it arrives live or dead i still have to pay for it. i just don't want it to arive dead and me be out of money.
     
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    If those are your choices, I'd recommend "Atlantic not dwarf" although it seems like this supplier has a pretty bad attitude. The drawback of "not dwarf" is that it's likely to be a large adult closer to the end of its life... but the "dwarf" is probably a full-grown dwarf near the end of its shorter life, too. This dealer sounds kind of shady from the "we'll send you a pacific octopus that might be dead" thing, although at least they admit that they have no idea how the ID octos, which is a bit more responsible that people who just lie about what species they're sending instead of admitting they don't know how to ID them....
     
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    Chef Reef O. vulgaris Registered

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    I'm not going with this supplier anymore, horrible customer service. this is the 2nd time he has sold "my" octo to someone else. i was told to come in today after 3 to pick up my octo. i got there at 3:15 and he told me. "sorry just sold it 2 mins ago.." i basically told him to shove off and I'm not shopping there anymore, all he had to say was whatever. oh well. I will just have my favorite LFS pick me one up tomorrow when they pick up their shipments. this one shouldn't be a dwarf but it will be mid Atlantic. I'm just hoping its not a vulgaris because i don't have room for it. we will see
     
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    monty Colossal Squid Staff Member Supporter

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    It's pretty rare to get a vulgaris, although I hope I don't jinx you by saying that... they seem to be good at avoiding being caught as juveniles, and collectors know that the adults are to big to sell to hobbyists.
     
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    When I had mine in the reef tank, he would play with any frag that wasn't glued onto LR.
     
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    You might make a note of that on Oscar's journal as Carol has been watching her Hummelincki move all kinds of loose stuff around the tank.
     
  20. Chef Reef

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    some stuff i dont mind. i have some rubble and empty shells to play with. i will have to glue all of my frags down though. :P thanks i had almost forgoten to do that.
     

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