25 Gal. Cuttlefish Tank, What else?

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  1. Ronin3310

    Ronin3310 Pygmy Octopus Registered

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    Just put a 25 gallon TRUVU Aquasytem on order when i went to work today. I wanted to run a list of what i am planning on setting up

    1. 25 Gal. tank
    2. AquaC Remora Skimmer
    3. Heater (correct wattage of course)
    4. Hydro Koralia 1 (would this be okay for a cuttle)
    5. return pump Maxi jet 900 or 1200
    6. 25-30 lbs of LR
    7. 30 lbs of LS

    I know there is something i am missing! :hmm:

    Comments and critizism helpful!!!!!
     
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    I would recommend a larger tank... I started mine in a 29 gallon and they quickly outgrew it. A 55 gallon would be better.
     
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    I am planning on keeping one cuttlefish. Is the 25 to small?
     
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    I think so, but I'm sure it can be done. I think they need the space to swim and move around. Also, the larger water volume helps with the large amount of waste they produce.
     
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    The big problem is actually the cuttlebone. One collision with the glass wall and ....dead. Larger tanks give you a better chance of having them stay ok.(but I agree with Cuttlegirl, larger tanks rule)
    One option you can do is to stack the rock around the edges of the aquarium, rather than in the middle, it will give the cuttle some spatial reference points.
     
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    Thales Colossal Squid Staff Member Moderator

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    What kind of cuttle are you planning on keeping?
     
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    I am planning on getting a sepia bandensis. I like the suggesting for the rock th
    anks! Sorry my messages are so short I am doing this on my iPod
     
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    Between Cuttlegirl and Thales, you have the experten of cuttles (especially bandensis) !
     
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    Yeah I have read all of their articles and they have so much helpful information!
    I have a quick question. When do Bandensis hatchlings and eggs become available?
    Cuttlegirl - I just wanted to adress you last comment, I will try to structure the rock so that it giver the little guy plenty of room to swim around without hurting himself. Also i will be running a skimmer that is supposed to be used for much larger tanks (AquaC Remora Pro) which i believe will be very sufficent in skimming (as experinced on very packed reef tanks).
     
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    as for your "shopping list", Live sand is not necessary and is just a waste of money, just get normal sand, then use live rock to seed it
     
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    Yeah i was going to just take some sand out of an existing tank and use that to help seed my sand as well. I am very excited about this whole thing and have found a person (my boss's friend) that has access to Sepia Bandensis. :cuttle:
     
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    Ok well i have setup my tank and have started the cycle, i only have 10-15 lb of LR in display and was planing on stuffing the refugium full of LR rubble. I am going to arrrange the rock along the sides of the aquarium leaving a nice little sand bed for him/her to play around in, I have a question about the return pump; should it be a strong return or a little on the lighter side, and do i need to block the return nozzle as well?

    And when i stack the rock should i stack it to the very top of the water so that it stop the cuttle from hiting the walls? There is so much to do for these little guys it is very exhausting!

    Any critisim or comments help!
     
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    Do they really hit walls and die that easily? I have never heard of this in my research until this thread. Im contemplating one banensis in a 29, which is why I ask.
     
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    They sometimes do hit or rub against walls, and sometimes get "butt burn" or other skin lesions. Sometimes, this is just cosmetic, but it can lead to infections. Cylindrical, and to a lesser extent bowfront, tanks seem to reduce this, but it's also sometimes not a problem in plain old rectangular tanks... it's just one more reason why it's nice to give them extra room, though...
     
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    I put more rock in and have built it up around the sides, i still need a little more rock. I will try to post some pics as soon as i can but i have to find my camera first :P
    I am really getting excited about this whole thing it is going to be so hard to wait 3 months for it to be stable enough for that little guy!
     
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    This hasn't been much of an issue (if an issue at all) with Sepia bandensis, but is/was a problem with Sepia officinalis. There is still a lot of husbandry information that gets mixed up for both species. :smile: I recommend putting any ceph tank in a low traffic area to avoid startling them, which causes them to jet 'away' from the thing that startled them. It seems that most people with bandensis have done this which is one of the reasons why it might not seem to be a problem.

    A 29 gallon tank should be plenty of a bandensis space wise, and I think the real issue with smaller tanks for dwarf cuttles can be water quality in a small system, not injury.
     
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    I tried to put him in the place with the least amount of traffic but my room is getting pretty crowded with my bed, desk reef tank and now my Cuttle tank. I am glad to hear that is not an issue with the bandensis! I think I will still try and stack the rock around the side wall of the aquarium so it gives him a little protection. I will also have to tell people to stay out of my room! Is there anything else that i should be considering about this setup?
     

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