17th century squid?

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  1. Emperor

    Emperor GPO Registered

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    New documents have been made public from the English Civil War including, amongst more straightforward (if still fascinating) acoounts, some more fantastical ones:

    www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,4484-1401565,00.html

    Emps
     
  2. cthulhu77

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    Neil Gaiman would have a field day with that stuff !!! very interesting...
     
  3. Clem

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    Hello Emps,

    I'll wager the animal was Ireland's Dingle-I-Cosh squid, whch aroused much comment in Britain. Can't find the stranding date at the moment, but there's a contemporary illo posted in the "Architeuthis Again" thread. Click here to go directly to that page. A very queer illustration, but it provided enough detail for Dr. O'Shea to speculate about possible species.

    As for the Australopithicenes in the canoes, I plead the Fifth Amendment.

    :roll:

    Clem
     
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    the eleven foot hairy guys moved to baja to work on a script about humbolt current squid...
     
  5. erich orser

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    Dingle-I-Cosh Squid

    Now that I need the documentaion, I can't find it, but I believe the stranding date was 1671, so slightly after the English Civil War.

    Glub!
     
  6. Steve O'Shea

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    :shock: dude ... where did you dredge this up from? I have to tell you that age has rendered me stupid; I have to plead the 5th on any and all speculation. Actually I don't know what I did 5 minutes ago ....
     
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    Clem, you've some memory; just checked the link. Hmmmmm.
     
  8. Clem

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    I've "cleaned up" (made honest) the Dingle squid link from the other thread, so here it is:

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    Like Ms. Taningia, I'm puzzled by the second "head" in the middle of the arm corona. Accounting for a fanciful engraver, it's still too long for a funnel, and I don't imagine that the buccal structure could be so distended, even by vigorous tugging. Here's a thought: perhaps this was a spawned-out male teuthid, found with his penis hanging out? The "head" looks a bit like a rooster. Cock-a-doodle-do?

    :roll:

    Clem
     
  9. OctopusV

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    It seems rather turkey-ish to me, as for the penis hanging out, that was my assumption as well.
     
  10. Clem

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    Hello OctopusV,

    We're sick people, aren't we?

    Isn't it funny that the engraver added trim to the squid's "cloak?" Back then, a fur-trimmed robe or cloak connoted real status. It's not just a big teuthid with a giggle-inducing second head: it's a royal big teuthid.

    :?:

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  11. OctopusV

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    Hmmm . . . perhaps it's some relation to Saint Architeuthis? :P
     

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