150 gallon tank, Any Suggestions?

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chaostheory;130260 said:
It is really hard doing research that specific because I have to sort through the vulgaris acne problem and most websites are unspecific. Aren't there articles here on TONMO.COM?
There are general care articles but the individual species are found in the journals and photos forum. Not all of them are labeled by species but you just have to read through them.

I don't think anyone is keeping/has kept an O. vulgaris on here in quite some time. They don't seem to be common in the pet trade right now.
 

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The LFS has an octopus go through all the time but it is the same dwarf 90% of the time. I forgot the name but the salesman said that they could live with lion fish and other things that are able to defend themselves. But my AP World History Teacher said that they lie to make a sale sometimes so I'll have to do some research myself.
 

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Sounds like your teacher is doing what she/he is paid for and then some. Any fish that can defend itself is going to prove a concern for the octopus. If you want to validate your teacher's thinking, see if the person telling you this has done it at home during a casual converstation.

JoeFish84 had a vulgaris about two years ago so searching his posts in 2007 with references to Hex might help. We were never sure if Carol's Biddle was one or not (search Biddle). Any post by JoeFish84 about Conan and later Connay (as well as Animal_Mother's Kalypso) are briareus. The tank is way to big for any kind of dwarf (borrowing from Greg, "They go in but they don't come out")
 

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I think that I am going to go with the Vulgaris. How little live rock can I get away with and keep the octopus happy? I know I shouldn't be thinking like that but I can't spend too much money on setting the tank up. Especially right now.
 

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I think for our original tank it was 2 pounds of liverock for every gallon of water to make adequate filtration.
 

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If you're concerned about the live rock cost, make sure you think through how much it'll cost to *feed* an octo... they eat a lot! Since you're in FL, maybe you can catch your own food for free, but otherwise keep that in mind.
 

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The food is not a problem, it's the 300 pounds of live rock. With 8 dollars a pound, I'll have to pay $2400 dollars. Not to mention the cost of gas.

I do remember a fishing trip when we went to a reef, I might be able to collect from the lagoon if I got a permit. But I might be bringing something into the tank. I don't want a mantis to kill the octopus or have a colony of Apstasian Anemones.

Could I have a huge part of a tank just like a bed of seaweed? I would have to update the lights but It would save a lot of money. I'm just not sure that it would be as good as having more live rocks.
 

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Unless I am mistaken, FL ended all legal collection of natural live rock some years ago. I believe this includes rock for personal use even in unprotected areas but I could be mistaken.
 

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Yes, I talked about it to my mom right after the last post because she just got a collectors license and she told me the same thing. I might be able to make some sort of deal with the LFS.
 

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ekocak;130318 said:
I think for our original tank it was 2 pounds of liverock for every gallon of water to make adequate filtration.
Are you absolutely sure that is right?
 

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