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  • Another Question! (I am just on FIRE! :P)

    #1
    Regarding the post on the Multiphasic Memory capacities of O. Vulgaris.

    Has anyone got any links, or tips on finding peer-reviewed scientific papers on various aspects of Cephalopods?

    Informed opinions and re-iterations of papers already seen are very welcome - But to see, and interpret the work in its 'raw' form for myself is more my thing!

    Just like the guy over at Cephlove said - These things aren't obvious to the public at large.

    Plus, Octopuses and Humans share a (relatively) common feature - We're both the 'most advanced' example of our respective twin-branched evolutionary linegaes. Vertebrate and Non-Vertebrate. That's GOT to be an interesting data yield!

    And I'm not fazed by mathematics or bio-chemical information - So the most complex stuff you know of, lemme know!

  • #2
    You might want to pickup a copy of Hanlon and Messenger's Cephalopod Behaviour. There are a couple of other books recently published but I will never own them at the prices they command, The Brains and Lives of Cephalopods by John Zachary is the first that comes to mind.

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    • #3
      Plus, Octopuses and Humans share a (relatively) common feature - We're both the 'most advanced' example of our respective twin-branched evolutionary linegaes. Vertebrate and Non-Vertebrate.
      Major assumption that I have to question! I'll argue for Odontodactylus scyllarus over Octopus bocki any day.

      Roy

      Roy

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      • #4
        I guess I will have to keep a couple of different Mantis as the two stomotapods I have had Odontodactylus havanensis and Neogonodactylus oerstedii have been interesting but not as receptive to interaction as even my mercs. They have lived twice as long but either I am doing something wrong or these two species don't exhibit the kind of social advance you swear by.

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        • #5
          Major assumption that I have to question! I'll argue for Odontodactylus scyllarus over Octopus bocki any day.

          Roy

          Roy
          Precisely what I mean! :P

          This is the kind of thing that, had I not directly asked or triggered that response from you - I would never have considered!

          You might want to pickup a copy of Hanlon and Messenger's Cephalopod Behaviour. There are a couple of other books recently published but I will never own them at the prices they command, The Brains and Lives of Cephalopods by John Zachary is the first that comes to mind.
          I was afraid of that! I was thinking more theoretical works that hadn't been validated yet, and were cheaper or free because of it.

          Once the theory becomes an accepted work - It's big bucks!

          Contrary to my initial post, I have since found some articles on cephalopod behavior which are in-depth - Only they get a little shaky when it comes to the science backing them up! :(

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          • #6
            The Hanlon and Messenger book can be found reasonably (more or less since I do own a copy) priced and would likely expose you to a lot of things to think about and incorporate.

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            • #7
              Thanks!

              It's kinda funny. I haven't got a living Octopus in a tank. And I'm not altogether certain that I'd like to hold a real Octopus either.

              They're slimy!

              So why do I like the little blighters?

              Well, as the image in my signature sometimes shows - I have a soft 'cuddly' Octopus bear!

              I found it when I was 21 and have been fascinated by them ever since!

              In fact, here's a photo of me hand-washing my idiosyncratically loveable little fabric friend...



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              • #8
                They're slimy!
                Mostly only if they are dead (there are some that are slimy live but not the ones we keep at home).

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Neogonodactylus View Post
                  Major assumption that I have to question! I'll argue for Odontodactylus scyllarus over Octopus bocki any day.

                  Roy

                  Roy
                  Oh gosh, mantis shrimp are fun. Elaborate?

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