View Full Version : [Video]: Belemnites 101 (By Phil Eyden)


tonmo
Sep 21st, 2006, 04:45pm
Phil has produced a great instructional video on Belemnites, taking TONMO.com Multimedia to a whole new level! The sound kicks in after a few moments... Enjoy!

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And thanks Phil!! :notworth:

Architeuthoceras
Sep 21st, 2006, 05:24pm
Great video phil!!!

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sorseress
Sep 21st, 2006, 06:08pm
Carl Orff would be pleased. Good choice! (Oh, and by the way, great video....I'm learning to expect great things when you post.) :notworth:

erich orser
Sep 21st, 2006, 06:18pm
That's a beautiful video, Phil, but does this mean that those aren't actually Thor's "thunderbolts"? :belemnit:

fossilkid25
Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:45pm
hey Phil
I saw you only had a few species of belemnites on your video. Woudl you like somemore species as i have like 10 species that you dont have on the video. Plus i have some huge cylindroteuthis pusoziana belemnites like 9 inchs to 10 inchs long.

spartacus
Sep 23rd, 2006, 03:24pm
Phil, a milestone in multi-media history has been made 10/10, geat score again ! Jamie is so impressed he's gonna give you a jamboree bag of his belemnites WTG Fossilkid !

Keef

fossilkid25
Sep 23rd, 2006, 07:05pm
hey spartacus no im not going to give any belemnites away. But what i mean is belemnite pictures. I will take some pictures of the species that phil needs.

Phil
Sep 24th, 2006, 06:55am
Thanks chaps, glad you liked it. It's was just a bit of fun really but it certainly kept me amused (and frustrated) for a few hours putting it together - it's surprising how long it takes to do these things with all the taking photos, cropping, enhancing, captions etc...etc...

Yes fossilkid, I only had half a dozen photos of actual fossils in the video but I could only use what I have at home. Much as I would have liked to have used better images off the net, one runs into copyright issues. I could have fired off e-mail after e-mail asking for permissions to use, but then it would have snowballed and, to be honest, I just couldn't be bothered with all that palaver.

If you have any images, I'd willing take them, but I can't imagine re-editing the thing anytime soon as I'd rather make a different one. Maybe ammonites? Maybe the Norse god angle, eh Erich? 8-)

I have put a copy on YouTube to hopefully attract viewers to this website. Not that I imagine that there are many people out there who actively search for belemnoids on a public video site, but maybe I'm wrong?

spartacus
Sep 24th, 2006, 01:05pm
Woudl you like somemore species as i have like 10 species that you dont have on the video. Plus i have some huge cylindroteuthis pusoziana belemnites like 9 inchs to 10 inchs long.

Much that I'd hate to appear a pedant Jamie but no mention of just pictures there :razz:
I've a huge collection of belemnites (not necessarily a huge no. of species though) collected after excavating the necessary excavations in order to construct my own personal sewage treatment system, all of which Phil is welcome to if he can raise the postage !

Keef

fossilkid25
Sep 25th, 2006, 02:39pm
Hey Spartacus
If phil wanted some belemnites of mine that i have for trades ect then he can have them for free if he pays postage but he will have to wait until i go out collecting belemnites again. Im more into marine reptile and mammals now so i just leave all the belemnites on the ground as they are too heavy to carry loads back or even 1 or 2 as i need all the space in my bag for mammal bones and marine reptile fossils.

spartacus
Sep 26th, 2006, 12:44pm
Yo Fossilkid
fair enough but mine are better coz they're French !
I can understand your interest in marine reptiles, fascinating but mammals ?!!:sleeping:

Keef

Architeuthoceras
Sep 26th, 2006, 12:58pm
I can understand your interest in marine reptiles, fascinating but mammals ?!!:sleeping:

Keef

Many a Paleontologist has started out with the good stuff, and ended up being a total "Bone-Head"
:lol:

spartacus
Sep 26th, 2006, 01:22pm
nowt so queer as folk ! eh Kevin
Always amazes me that palaeontology with it's countless fascinating subjects to chose from (who can question the thrill of digging up huge skulls full of huge dagger like teeth or filling your house with the shells of extinct cephalopods) would inspire people to specialize in statoliths or gastroliths or musical sutures ? Each to their own I 'spose but mammals ? perrlease !:roll:

Keef

fossilkid25
Sep 26th, 2006, 02:54pm
hey spartacus
How do you know your belemnite specimens are better. Mine are better because they are british. All the french fossils i see on the web especially the hectioceras and crenioceras are rubbish from france. The preservation of fossils in france is really bad. try moving to england (land of the best invertebrate fossils of the world) and you will see the types of preservation in fossils. Plus here are the species of belemnite i could offer you guys : Belemnopsis bessina , Cylindroteuthis pusoziana , Hibolithes hastata, Belemopsis depressa and langonibolus sp (not sure about how to spell it)

So how many jurassic specimens do you have ? spartacus. Plus are they preserved well ?

Phil
Sep 26th, 2006, 07:45pm
Hmmm....I think Spartacus knows all about Merrie Olde Englande, he's only recently moved out to Gaul! I'm sure you are just having a joke Jamie, but I don't really see much point in playing fossil jingoism, i.e "my country's fossils are better than yours"...etc. I'm sure we'd all agree with the opinion that fossils are our common heritage and should be of equal interest no matter where they are found (except those ghastly mammals, of course :cyclops:). After all, our national borders were meaningless in the Triassic!

From what little I've seen some crackingly well preserved belemnoids have been found in France, for example the weird pear-shaped Duvalia is a commonly found belemnite in SE France. Indeed, France has been home to some amazing fossil cephalopods that have been found no-where else in the world, e.g the primitive octopus Proteroctopus, the vampyromorph Vampyronassa and the dibranchate teuthid Gramadella. None of these are known from Britain. On the other hand, I'm sure Britain has a few fossil species unknown in France; it really doesn't matter.

Thanks for the belemnite offer Jamie, that's very kind. I may be in touch.

main_board
Sep 26th, 2006, 08:13pm
try moving to england (land of the best invertebrate fossils of the world) Ummm....I guess you just haven't heard of the Burgess Shale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgess_shale) beds in the Canadian Rockies. That's really too bad, considering that they include creatures bizarre and wierd with body plans that are no longer in existence. Ah well, I can't blame Phil for taking the diplomatic approach. Clearly neither of you want to acknowledge that a simple 'colony' has something better than mother Britain. :wink:

Cheers!

Phil
Sep 26th, 2006, 08:25pm
:lol: Got me there, my Canadian friend!

("Cough...cough.....Chengjiang" (http://www.fossilmuseum.net/Fossil_Sites/Chengjiang.htm))

Just you wait, one day a fossil will be found on Mars which will knock us all into a cocked hat!

erich orser
Sep 27th, 2006, 05:21am
If you have any images, I'd willing take them, but I can't imagine re-editing the thing anytime soon as I'd rather make a different one. Maybe ammonites? Maybe the Norse god angle, eh Erich? 8-)

I might think about the Norse God angle, good sir, but once I get on that one the science goes out the window and the narration become strictly Wagnerian. The only other variety of Thunderbolt I honour is the 1964 Ford Fairlane I used to own. D**n that car was fast. Also lost to sediment.

main_board
Sep 27th, 2006, 10:00am
("Cough...cough.....Chengjiang" (http://www.fossilmuseum.net/Fossil_Sites/Chengjiang.htm))


The beat us by a measely 10 million years!!! NOOO00ooo! :bugout:

fossilkid25
Sep 27th, 2006, 03:46pm
Hey Phil
Sorry about that jigisum (cant spell it) I was just a bit annoyed at the comment spartacus made. I think all fossils from all countries are equal in rarity and preservation ect. Its just i cant stand when someone is saying a childish thing like "my fossils are better than yours" its just so annoying but no worries hopfully we can just forget that inscident and move on. Plus i also have alot of stress with course work at the moment. but anyways lets talk about the video phil made.

Phil
Sep 28th, 2006, 07:05pm
Chaps,

Whooaah, there! Please can we just leave this where it is? It's not really much to do with fossils, and personal issues are not really the sort of thing we want to read here. I really don't want to delete posts, (ten in four years isn't bad) but I can see the greasy pole into the mire ahead here...:goofysca:

Blimey, I had no idea belemnites would stir up such deep emotions in people, next time I'll stick to tea and biscuits, seems a much safer option! 8-)

Anyway, back to the vid, if you liked it, would you like another one if I can find the time to make one? Any requests? Any images of good fossils most welcome if you are willing for me to use them. Thank you in advance.

fossilkid25
Sep 29th, 2006, 02:17pm
Hey Phil
What fossils would you like pictures of as i have no end of fossils and if you want a perticular sort or species then i can sort through and see if i have them but ammonites im still trying to build up on species of. Plus i just lately got a huge trade of echinoids. They are really nice.

tonmo
Sep 29th, 2006, 06:52pm
No more of the insults guys -- please stay on topic.

spartacus
Sep 30th, 2006, 04:34am
Okay Guv !:grin:

Keef

fossilkid25
Sep 30th, 2006, 08:24pm
ok tony