Hi all,

I'm opening this thread as a place to find information on where cuttles are currently offered for sale.

Please post only sites and LFSs that you've verified - in other words, you need check to make sure any offering on the web that you post here is for real.

If you have eggs or young cuttles and intend to offer them for sale later, go ahead and list them in advance.

Nancy

Ok,

Here's the deal... I now have 36 Sepia bandensis eggs. :goofysca: I cannot keep 36 cuttles... so I am offering some of them to Tonmo community members. I have seen inside the first batch of eggs and I can see the embryos, so at least some of these eggs are viable. About 15 of the eggs are going to Thales so he can breed them with his babies and we can continue captive breeding efforts. If you are interested, live in North America and are willing to pay overnight shipping and $20 per egg let me know. I will give preference to those who would like more than one cuttle, so that we can all continue to breed these animals. Please be aware, that if this is your first time caring for a cuttlefish, that the food is expensive! I spend from $50-80 per week for live food over the past 5 months... It has been worth it, but it is something to be aware of.

Of course, I cannot guarantee the viability of all the eggs, nor that they will survive shipping, since I am only an individual and not a LFS, but I will do my best to package them carefully and overnight ship them to you.

Thank you.

PM'd you. I'd take 6

www.seacrop.com
"Sepia sp. form the Philippines" my guess would be S. Bandensis but i could be totally wrong

Has any one ever order from here www.seacrop.com ???"Sepia sp.- Each egg will generally produce 10-20 cuttlefish babies.Whats up with that a typo?????

Cuttlefish Egg Cluster*

Quantity in Basket:none
Code: SCF950
Price:$60.00

Shipping Weight: 3.00 pounds


"Sepia sp.- Each egg will generally produce 10-20 cuttlefish babies. Needs lots of live food (copepods, baby brine, etc…). Best in a large tank with a pod-producing refugium. Not recommended for nano tanks. "

If I remember right they had some bandensis a while back, so that is probably what they are.

Yes,
i have emailed her.. that is a typo.. they mean eatch "cluster" will hatch 10-20 cuttles.. so that means 10-20 eggs... they are coming in from the philipines.(which is where S. Bandensis are coming from too).... i have heard many things of seacrop (all good) but i have never heard of anyone ordering their cuttles...
good luck
-Josh

I will be passing by there this weekend on my way to Santa Barbara, and might stop by to have a look.

Thanks everyone think ill give them a try ill order on the 15th and let you know how its gos.Marinebio_guy my bimac is doing great and has tripled in size hes a eating machine :lol:.Plz let me know if you go by there and have a ID.

Thanks everyone think ill give them a try ill order on the 15th and let you know how its gos.Marinebio_guy my bimac is doing great and has tripled in size hes a eating machine :lol:.Plz let me know if you go by there and have a ID.

I'm glad to hear he/she is doing good. I will let you know how they look if I stop by.

i will also be ordering from them,
i talked to mary, the owner and she said they already started hatching so we will have to wait untill the new shipment comes in..

Talked to mary at seacrop they have hatchling's for sale:

http://www.seacrop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=S&Screen=SRCH&Search=cuttle&x=0&y=0

I think she said she only had 6

Hi,
I have kept an octopus before and have wanted to keep a cuttlefish for a while. I live in Oklahoma and would love to purchase a few of your eggs. Due to my family's Christmas schedule though, I do not think it would be wise to purchase them now. Do you think you would have any available after the holidays or in any future batch? Thanks!

Hi,
I have kept an octopus before and have wanted to keep a cuttlefish for a while. I live in Oklahoma and would love to purchase a few of your eggs. Due to my family's Christmas schedule though, I do not think it would be wise to purchase them now. Do you think you would have any available after the holidays or in any future batch? Thanks!

Ummm... if you mean me (and I am not sure you do...). I probably won't have anymore (I hope!!!) after Christmas - the ones I have are scheduled to hatch around Christmas and I hope to find homes for them before the holidays. But I will let you know if she has any more eggs.

I still have six eggs if anyone is interested, otherwise they are going to my LFS...

I still have six eggs if anyone is interested, otherwise they are going to my LFS...

PM'd

I want em!

Dang, I can't believe you still have those Cuttlegirl.

I have 4 eggs if anyone is interested...

If you get more than 4, I would be interested. :smile:

Well I caught Baby A cuddling with Scrunchy on Monday, so I am expecting some more eggs this weekend :smile: .

Good Cthulhu!!! I knew cuttles were smart, but smart enough to hitchhike on your back to the drug store, but some Viagra, and then pop in in the water regularly? Amazing...

;)

Well I caught Baby A cuddling with Scrunchy on Monday, so I am expecting some more eggs this weekend :smile: .

Hahaha, I guess you have given up on birth control?

Well, they don't have too much else to do in the tank besides eat shrimp - guess they were just trying to keep themselves occupied :wink: while they wait for food...

Well, they don't have too much else to do in the tank besides eat shrimp - guess they were just trying to keep themselves occupied :wink: while they wait for food...

LMAO... sounds like the hurricane victims in Florida a few years back. 9 months later there was a boom in childbirth.

Hahahaha!

Try giving them some toys or something lol. or, (on a serious note) you could use opaque dividers so they can't get to each other, but that may seem cruel in some people's point of view.

I am not going to separate them at this point, they have been together all of their lives. At least one of the males and Baby A snuggle together in a cave when they rest. I can't imagine that she is going to lay many more eggs - she is already almost 7 months old and she has been laying eggs for two months... and so far (except for these last 4) I have found good homes for all of the eggs. I have a few weeks until they hatch to find a good home.

Am I just ignorant about S. bandensis or isn't it very abnormal for any ceph to keep eating and living after laying eggs? I thought it was pretty much universal that reproduction was the end of life, but from your reports, Baby A and her dudes aren't showing any signs of slowing down... are bandensis or cuttles in general an exception to the rule? I know apama die around when their eggs hatch, and I know most, if not all, octopods do too... not sure if anyone knows about vampyrotethis, and I don't know about nautilus (but I have a few books that probably do).

So, am I the only one perplexed by this?

And the enormous amount of eggs they are producing. I'm very surprised they haven't all died from exhaustion. What are you feeding the adults?

Am I just ignorant about S. bandensis or isn't it very abnormal for any ceph to keep eating and living after laying eggs? I thought it was pretty much universal that reproduction was the end of life, but from your reports, Baby A and her dudes aren't showing any signs of slowing down... are bandensis or cuttles in general an exception to the rule? I know apama die around when their eggs hatch, and I know most, if not all, octopods do too... not sure if anyone knows about vampyrotethis, and I don't know about nautilus (but I have a few books that probably do).

So, am I the only one perplexed by this?

I think that Sepia produce eggs over a period of time. The NRCC probably knows more about it than me. Nautilus produce their eggs over a period of years - but only a few at a time - their eggs look really weird, kind of like a chinese dumpling. The eggs are white, opaque and kind of hard (it feels like flexible plastic). You cannot see the embryo developing inside, you have to open the egg to see development. When a young Nautilus is about to hatch, you can see the shell peeking through the top of the egg.

Some things I am surprised about my cuttles are:

1. They are continuing to mate (maybe they can't store sperm like octopus?).

2. Maternal care - I have seen the female blow water over the eggs.

3. Paternal guarding while the female is laying eggs - I have observed this several times.

And the enormous amount of eggs they are producing. I'm very surprised they haven't all died from exhaustion. What are you feeding the adults?

Actually, I don't think 100 eggs is actually that many - Nautilus is probably the only living cephalopod that produces less. Granted cuttlefish eggs are bigger and cost more energy to produce than octopus eggs, but octopus can have thousands of eggs.

I feed the adults live shore shrimp and occassionally frozen krill. Yesterday (for fun) I offered raw shrimp from the grocery store - it was hilarious, the shrimp were twice the mantle length and Scrunchy decided to attack and eat it - I videotaped it and as soon as I figure out how to transfer it to my computer, I will post the video.

Cuttlegirl I sent you a message about eggs.
Thanks

I tried to contact you a couple days ago regarding your cuttles, I am interested if you still have any. I'm new to this website and don't know what the easiest way to contact you would be. If you get this message maybe you could contact me. Even if you don't have any I'd like to line something up for the future. Thank You, Christopher.

I'll let you know if I have any more available - I think this might have been the last batch - she has been laying eggs for the past 3 months.

Hopefully I will have some available in the next few months. I prefer to raise the hatchlings myself for about a month because they have such a dismal survival rate; month or two olds seem to do better and are easier to feed.

Thanks for the responses to my question regargarding cuttlefish availability. I've absolutely facinated with cuttles since I saw a program about them on tv about 5 years ago or so. I've had aquariums off and on my whole life but got hooked on African Cichlids about 7-8 yrs ago. I've been breeding wild caught Africans for about 4 yrs now and currently have 18 tanks in my basement for my Africans rangeing from 55's down to my 2's for my fry. I have 3 saltwater tanks which I keep upstairs a 90, a 75, and a 30 which I just got ready for my mysids which I plan on ordering today. In the past three years I haven't lost a single saltwater fish to disease or water condition. I've had all sorts of saltwater fish and now I just keep my big guys my eel, grouper, trigger and tang. I decided to go with my 75 for like 3-5 bandensis and getting rid of alot of my Africans so I can breed mysids. I've never had a ceph but I've been doing a lot of reasearch and am going to give it my all. I want to raise some cuddle so I can learn as much as I can so eventually I can get some for CB. I would love to help reduce the number of people who get them from the ocean, plus breeding a cuttlefish has got to be the most exciting thing ever. I do have a few questions on cuttle care. First, how much water current would be to much and how would I know? Second, I'm a big fan of hydro sponge filters and had an idea to have two hydro sponges both rated for 80 gallons in each corner with a 350gph powerhead on each one and connecting the powerhaeds with a custom spraybar. I figured if I drilled small holes all the way down the bar and angleing the bar with the water moving up and hitting the glass at an angle that reduces water current but still filtering lots of water I was also gonna put extra carbon in the cage in the center of the sponge, also gonna cage the sponges with small plasic cage thats screened from the inside??? Third, I have a protien skimmer that rated for a 75g but read more is better so I got another one and now have 2 skimmers but I don't have a sump hooked up so I'm worried about too much water movement, I'm gonna do my best to reduce water movement as much as possible. I think the setup will be ample filtration combined with my emperor 400 biowheel loaded with carbon and my canister filter and 80-90lbs of live rock, enough filtration? Fourth, what exact size net breeder is best to ensure little cuddles find there food? I know my question aren't very organized but but would greatly appreciate any advise I can get, and if I have to have a sump then a sump I will have. Thank you all for your help, this website is awesome.

I have some extra eggs in case anyone is interested - they are $10 piece plus the cost of shipping (usually $50-70). Let me know.

I live in the UK and just wondering if anyone knows if and where i could get hold of some tank reared dwarf cuttles (or eggs). Have kept a dwarf octo and would like to have a go with cuttles but cant find them anywhere.
Any help appreciated
Bobby

Colin lives in your side of the world and may be more knowledgeable of resources there. You can pm him here

http://www.tonmo.com/forums/member.php?u=4

I would actually love to get my hands on some officianalis. Not dwarf, but very personable. They arent available in the U.S. anymore. They are probably more common where you are. Too bad we cant just set up a trade =)

To be honest I don't have my finger on the pulse any more with regards to getting Sepia over here. Been a while since I have kept any.

Bobby, you could try phoning TMC in Manchester, speak to Andy Lister, also a member here and he might be able to tell you what's about, they only sell to shops but they could sell to a shop local to you where you can pick them up. Probably eggs?

Phone number is 0161 946 1538

cheers
Colin

Thanks for that Colin. I'll give that a try. I work in a shop and go to TMC at Chorleywood or Bristol fairly regularly to get fish and inverts for the shop so that isnt a problem.
Thanks
Bobby

So do you have to go through the same red tape to ship cuttle eggs from the UK to the US as you do for adult cuttles?

Sorry I've been gone - computer problems!

I have a connection that has 4 what seems to be young small wild caught bandensis for sale. They are between and inch and two inches.

Wild caught get expensive fast, not due to the actual cost of the animal, but do to the cost of shipping them correctly (water is heavy and expensive). So these guys will cost somewhere around 50 retail plus shipping.

Let me know if you're interested.

RR

Sorry I've been gone - computer problems!

I have a connection that has 4 what seems to be young small wild caught bandensis for sale. They are between and inch and two inches.

Wild caught get expensive fast, not due to the actual cost of the animal, but do to the cost of shipping them correctly (water is heavy and expensive). So these guys will cost somewhere around 50 retail plus shipping.

Let me know if you're interested.

RR

I'm definitely interested. Do you want to PM me the details?
thanks
Ed

Pm'd

To whom it may concern,
Is there anyone that could help me find some cuttlefish for my 150 gal tank. I promise to give them a good home and the BEST of care. Thanks
Steve from florida.......

They are tough to find!
Looking in Los Angeles......
If anyone has any good leads to cutle availability in or around L.A. I am in the market. Wai@seacrop hasn't any at the moment, so I don't know where to find them.
Thank you,

Brian in Southern California

This is awesome.. where have i been all my life.

Hi, just for any of you looking for cuttle eggs, Wai@seacrop.com has some in. I haven't the confidence in my ability to reliably get TINY live food for them, so I won't be pursuing it, but I thought some of you with better connections on that might find it useful.

hi everybody,
I am living in australia, but want to start breeding cuttlefish.
Anybody have any ideas where to start looking?

my email address is lee_unthank@hotmail.com, BTW. Thanks

my email address is lee_unthank@hotmail.com, BTW. Thanks

First make sure you can get live food year round. Second, there are several species of cuttles that can be found around Australia that might do good in captivity so if you are SCUBA cert. you can try to collect the brood stock yourself but make sure you have the required permits.

hello i am new as you can see by my posting and i live in california. i would love to raise a cuttlefish, but it is so hard around here. can some one give me tips for raising bandensis here (cause it looks like thats all ill be getting). and what size tank 1 bandensis needs. also if you could pm me with some more detail, like where to order them. i really want a cuttlefish, but if it is to hard i will get an octopus.

Seacrop (www.seacrop.com) is showing both eggs and cuttles available. KDS recently bought eggs that are hatching. I have placed an order for 3 of the cuttles to arrive on Thursday (and an order of Mysis from Paul :wink: ).

They are listed as Sepia Sp. My understanding is that this means that they don't know which species they are rather than being one of the unnamed species from Indonesia. The babies look like Jenn's bendensis but I expect most cuttle babies look similar. :razz:

Those are from PI and they are the same thing we have been calling bandensis for the last few years. All the eggs in the trade are coming from/have been coming from the same place. :grin: I have 5 babies and some unhatched eggs from Seacrop.
Seacrop is a little expensive, but they are the only place that has them right now. If you order eggs from them make sure you tell them you would like any babies that hatch between now and the ship date (they are hatching so the egg clusters are getting smaller).
Also, I wish they would change their care description, but cest la vie.

Wow...I can't WAIT!

Still planning the system at this point, so it'll likely be next year.

They come in every year. I am working with an online retailer to set up some kind of responsible ceph sales including wc eggs, bought before collected cephs, and a distribution chain for captive born/raised cephs. We are actually hoping to have wc bandensis eggs in the next couple of weeks (actually been trying for the last month!)

That would be awesome! Something like that is what I would hope to get involved with, as soon as I'm able to get completely set up and successful with them. Contributing to the betterment of the species, and the hobby.

Sepia Officianalis available..

Please refer to this thread http://www.tonmo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=94213#post94213

A cuttle available at live aquaria:

http://liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=20939&siteid=20

Ha!

If you live in B.C. there are some cuttles at Pet Zoo in Langley.

Liveaquaria has another cuttle.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=27333&siteid=20

Sepia(I think is how it's spelled) on liveaquria's diver's den. Under inverts of course. 2" and eating.

149 bucks. Cool! Eggs and babies should go for 100 each! :sly:

Shouldn't the value decrease as it ages? Considering the lifespan...

I'm waiting for a check to clear and buying it if its still their, I was hoping no one would notice...

I'm waiting for a check to clear and buying it if its still their, I was hoping no one would notice...

Hahah, well it's probably all yours then. Let us know how it goes.

I'm waiting for a check to clear and buying it if its still their, I was hoping no one would notice...

Heck, I'll sell you one of my extra males for that price.

really? How big/ old are they and how would you like to be payed?

thales what did you decide to do with your eggs you had... or am i just imagining that you had them...

I havent decided to do anything about the eggs yet. I want to make sure they develop and document closing the life cycle before I sell any.

Opce - i thought you were kidding, but I would be happy to sell you one for that price plus shipping. :grin: The cuttles I have are 6 months old and about 1/2 full size eating frozen shrimp. Pay pal would be the way to go. Let me know if you are interested.

I Just bought the live aquaria cuttle, The shipping is less than it would be for you and it comes with a money back guaranty if it dies. however if it doesn't make it I'll drop you a line.

I Just bought the live aquaria cuttle, The shipping is less than it would be for you and it comes with a money back guaranty if it dies. however if it doesn't make it I'll drop you a line.

Glad to hear you got it; I went on LA when I got home and saw the cuttle was gone. I was hoping you snagged it. What's your setup like for him?

I need three bandensis eggs before they are out of season. I've done enough research and preperation to make me very disapointed if I can't find them.

thanks.

Glad to hear you got it; I went on LA when I got home and saw the cuttle was gone. I was hoping you snagged it. What's your setup like for him?

Its an Aquapod 24 that I've modded a closed loop and chiller into, I also took the back compartment out. I've also got a 29 gallon that I aquascaped specifically for baby cuttles with three shelves that each run about 2/3rds of the way across the tank at various levels. Then when they grow to big for it I've got a 55 that I can set up for them, and a buddy with a 120 that would take a few. At this point I'm just focusing on proof of concept with this one, I highly suspect that its a male being so small at this time of year, so I am fairly confident that he could live out his days happy as a clam in the 24 with all its caves (rock work in my tanks always goes from one side to the other)

Its an Aquapod 24 that I've modded a closed loop and chiller into, I also took the back compartment out. I've also got a 29 gallon that I aquascaped specifically for baby cuttles with three shelves that each run about 2/3rds of the way across the tank at various levels. Then when they grow to big for it I've got a 55 that I can set up for them, and a buddy with a 120 that would take a few. At this point I'm just focusing on proof of concept with this one, I highly suspect that its a male being so small at this time of year, so I am fairly confident that he could live out his days happy as a clam in the 24 with all its caves (rock work in my tanks always goes from one side to the other)

Sounds awesome. Make sure to get some pictures when you get him.

I highly suspect that its a male being so small at this time of year, so I am fairly confident that he could live out his days happy as a clam in the 24 with all its caves (rock work in my tanks always goes from one side to the other)

Um... my males were about twice as big as my female...

I've also got a 29 gallon that I aquascaped specifically for baby cuttles with three shelves that each run about 2/3rds of the way across the tank at various levels.

I don't think you will have much luck feeding 0-1 month olds in such a large space.

Then when they grow to big for it I've got a 55 that I can set up for them, and a buddy with a 120 that would take a few. At this point I'm just focusing on proof of concept with this one, I highly suspect that its a male being so small at this time of year, so I am fairly confident that he could live out his days happy as a clam in the 24 with all its caves (rock work in my tanks always goes from one side to the other)

Maybe. For the last 4-6 months of life, mine were almost 5 inches long.

Hi everyone, my 180 is currently cycleing. It has been about 2 1/2 months now. If anyone knows/heres of anyone who has or can get a Sepia officinalis, or a S. Pharonis, or even a O. Vulgaris octopus, as my last choice, in the next couple months and can post me a tip that would be great! I am in Maryland, so they well probably have to ship.

Thanks alot, Swann

Contact Richard of Tampa Bay Saltwater (TBS). He recently told me that he may have O. vulgaris soon (they are seasonal).

Nancy

Hey thales, when are you going to be selling eggs?

Don't know. The first batches weren't all that viable. Only a few hatched. Several more are inflated, so that bodes well. I also just caught a laying in action, pretty neat, and its the biggest clutch yet.

well i can only support two or three.

For those living in this part of the globe, seems these guys at marine-life.fr had some eggs, --now again without availability--

http://www.marine-life.biz/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=64_114&products_id=1214

anyone knows other suppliers here? what about UK?

Thanks

For anyone in the Tampa Bay area there is a fish store called Marine Warehouse off of Hillborough Ave (Town and Country area) that has a small cuddle just labeled "cuddlefish" for 49.99

I believe it was a Sepia bandensis ....the mantle was about 2 1/2 inches long, seemed to have a cool little personality on him though, didn't like my cell phone too much

I'm interested in some eggs whenever somebody is ready to sell.

=)

For anyone in the Tampa Bay area there is a fish store called Marine Warehouse off of Hillborough Ave (Town and Country area) that has a small cuddle just labeled "cuddlefish" for 49.99

I believe it was a Sepia bandensis ....the mantle was about 2 1/2 inches long, seemed to have a cool little personality on him though, didn't like my cell phone too much

The little cuttle was sold...but one of the workers said they would special order eggs. That is what i'm getting my tank ready for. CANNOT WAIT! :grin:

Please let us know if/when you order, and maybe you could buy extras to sell to TONMO members.

Please let us know if/when you order, and maybe you could buy extras to sell to TONMO members.

Will do. It's soo exciting!

Any updates on available cuttles?

Brock, you should try calling that store and see if they would ship to you directly. Ive not worked with this retailer before, but Ive managed to talk many retailers into shipping to me before.

Good luck!

Which store?

I was reffering to the previous post in which they stated they would be ordering eggs. The store mentioned was in

tampa Bay called Marine Warehouse off of Hillborough Ave

I googled them and found thier phone number to be (813) 884-0787

Ahh, I see. I didn't see the relation between the egg post, and the Marine Warehouse post.

Yeah, i'll call them tomorrow, and post what they say. If they give the thumbs up, i'll ask for some pictures of the eggs with a light behind them to see if they are fertile (or get an idea if they're fertile).

Then i'll post back with my findings.

Seacrop.com has eggs available. They aren't on their site but you can email them about it.

Been a while since I posted here but I am pretty sure Marine Warehouse doesn't get them in regularly, and they def don't have eggs at their location. I stop by the shop once every two weeks since it is a little out of my way and of all the times I have stopped only that one time was there a cuddle. I plan on going again sometime soon, so when i'm there i'll take a peek.

Oh ya and just so you know the store is a very quality store from what i have seen, all their tanks are very nicely set up and their fish all seem to be in great shape, i have never ran across a dead one yet. My point is they are pretty trustworthy in the fish department and when they get something in they will likely be pretty healthy and there wont be many worries. I have bought a Mantis Shrimp (peacock), a Zebra Eel and an Arc-eye Hawkfish from them and every one of them are still in great shape.

FYI -I just got 2 hatchlings from Aquatropics in Gainesville, FL-I have purchased from them before with great success -(look up my "Bill")

They had at least 5 more and get them on a regular basis.

Has anyone ever purchased S. officinalis from Liveaquaria.com, just wondering out of curiosity how Drfostersmith.com cuttles are.

Oh wow. they have officinalis now.

For TONMO only:

I have some captive raised S. bandensis hatchlings and three month olds for sale. The hatchlings (hatched and eating mysis and prolly amphipods) are currently $40 each, plus shipping and boxing, the 3 month olds (eating frozen shore/bait shrimp and frozen mysis) are $75 each plus shipping and boxing. Payment accepted through paypal only. If you are interested please email me at babies@daisyhillcuttlefarm.org

You can see pics of these guys in this thread:
http://www.tonmo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11718

General info on the species available here:
http://www.tonmo.com/cephcare/cuttlefish.php

Some nitty gritties:

Please, serious/informed buyers only. It often happens in sales of captive raised cephs that people say "I want them, will you hold them for me". Then, after a dozen or so emails, they decide that these animals aren't for them (this actually happened this week :smile: ). So, please, serious/informed inquiries only.
I am happy to hold animals for a week or two with prepayment, with 50% refundable if you decide to back out.

:grin:

Thanks guys!