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Steve O'Shea
Jul 22nd, 2006, 08:41pm
Well, the latest giant squid documentary is finally airing, 3 times on Discovery Channel in August (5 [8pm, et], 6 [12am, et] and 19 [12pm, et]); I haven't seen it yet myself. Click here (http://dsc.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=30491&gid=0&channel=DSC) for further program details.

sorseress
Jul 22nd, 2006, 10:16pm
Ahhh! Finally! I've been waiting with bated breath and my lips are turning blue! Gasp! (Pant pant, pant!)

Nancy
Jul 23rd, 2006, 12:30am
Ah, we've been waiting so long for this!
So what country are these times for? For the U.S.?
And did you have something to do with this documentary?

Nancy

Steve O'Shea
Jul 23rd, 2006, 02:14am
This is all the US I think (not sure if it is airing over here (NZ)); yup, 4-entire days worth of filming (in other words, not a lot!).... and I think they only used footage from one of those days (working from the script that I've seen). They were an extremely hectic 4 days!

To put things in perspective, the last big one I did followed research for nearly a year!

tonmo
Jul 23rd, 2006, 05:29pm
Awesome, looking forward to it!

Steve O'Shea
Jul 24th, 2006, 05:42am
... you might see a few changes in my 'physical appearance' from the last one, but I can attribute all-such changes to the agony caused by :twisted: (and to those relatively new to TONMO, :twisted: refers to Tintenfisch, aka Kat, aka the dark and dastardly one, aka fellow moderator, aka 'TONMO sweetheart', aka 'poison ivy').

bobwonderbuns
Jul 24th, 2006, 08:51am
Now if I can only find someone to tape it for me...

sorseress
Jul 24th, 2006, 03:03pm
... you might see a few changes in my 'physical appearance' from the last one, but I can attribute all-such changes to the agony caused by :twisted: (and to those relatively new to TONMO, :twisted: refers to Tintenfisch, aka Kat, aka the dark and dastardly one, aka fellow moderator, aka 'TONMO sweetheart', aka 'poison ivy').


Kat? Our Kat??? How, vile sir, can you cast such aspersions on such a sweet, innocent, pure, angelic young lady? Fie on you! Fie, I say! :tongue:

cthulhu77
Jul 24th, 2006, 03:36pm
You bet, for a girl who reeks of spermaceti, she is nothing short of fantabulous.

Yep. Fantabulous.

WhiteKiboko
Jul 24th, 2006, 04:22pm
yup, 4-entire days worth of filming (in other words, not a lot!)

Similiar to you appearance on Wild Boyz?

Steve O'Shea
Jul 24th, 2006, 04:26pm
That was ~ 30 mins worth of filming, and the squid did all the acting. There's quite a bit more in this doco; it is most definitely about Dr Kubodera's work - you'll see some stunning stuff (I've seen the Japanese version).

Tako_Poke
Jul 24th, 2006, 04:29pm
You were in wild boyz??!? I have to see that! Does someone have the clip?

erich orser
Jul 24th, 2006, 05:29pm
Looking forward to the Discovery premiere with baited hooks!

Phil
Jul 24th, 2006, 07:56pm
You were in wild boyz??!? I have to see that! Does someone have the clip?

Yes indeed, I remember Steve telling us about Steve O and the squid dumped in his drive episode. Is there any chance of some kind soul hosting this on youtube please? I'd love to see this.

Tako_Poke
Jul 24th, 2006, 09:19pm
Hahaha Steve O and Steve O! Someone please post it!!

monty
Jul 24th, 2006, 09:49pm
looks like you can pay to get it on iTunes:

http://www.tv.com/new-zealand/episode/290125/summary.html

$1.99 -- is it worth two bucks?

Tako_Poke
Jul 24th, 2006, 10:08pm
It would be if I had a credit card.

Clem
Jul 25th, 2006, 12:33am
... you might see a few changes in my 'physical appearance' from the last one...
Your soup-strainer will be even, neat and well-groomed?

:sagrin:

bigGdelta
Jul 26th, 2006, 01:35pm
come on somebody send it to you tube

monty
Jul 26th, 2006, 07:20pm
Ok, I forked out the $2 for the iTunes WildBoyz thing. It makes Steve out to be a klutzy mad scientist who works out of his garage... although I'm not sure that's technically inaccurate, it doesn't seem to be too respectful... And the "Boyz" are pretty lame to not help out as the slippery squids are falling off the table.

Although I imagine there are ways to un-DRM it to put it online somehow, I'm pretty much too apathetic.

Anyway, my review: I guess I got $2 of amusement out of it, but I'd feel ripped off if I paid $3.

jc45
Aug 1st, 2006, 01:35pm
ARRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH MY CABLE IS SHUT OFF FOR THE SUMMER!!!!!:bonk: :evil: :mad: :yelling: :yuck: :thumbsdo:

:archi: photos have eluded me once again!

PurpleTentacle
Aug 2nd, 2006, 11:21am
Now if I can only find someone to tape it for me...

Or even better, digitally capture it and illegally redistribute it with BitTorrent or something. I'd do it, but despite being an IT professional at a "cutting edge" research institution, I'm way back in the stoneage with my own equipment. I'm afraid the best I can do with my own stuff is a VHS tape.

Fini
Aug 2nd, 2006, 11:53am
Or even better, digitally capture it and illegally redistribute it with BitTorrent or something. I'd do it, but despite being an IT professional at a "cutting edge" research institution, I'm way back in the stoneage with my own equipment. I'm afraid the best I can do with my own stuff is a VHS tape.
I'll take care of it. Tivo to the rescue.

Steve O'Shea
Aug 2nd, 2006, 03:34pm
Tsk tsk!
Programming standards are influenced by ratings; unless people watch and/or purchase a show how is Discovery to know whether a squid documentary is wanted?

PurpleTentacle
Aug 2nd, 2006, 04:01pm
yeah, if we could subscribe to discovery directly for a reasonable fee, I'd be all for it. But while we are paying $80/month to whatever cable company happens to have right of way in our neighborhoods for the discovery channel plus 79 channels of digital cow excrement, and we get charged the "because we can" fees on top of that, I have no problem with a little piracy.

What is really needed is a complete restructuring of the way media is distributed. I'm thinking the networks need to offer podcasts on a subscription or PPV basis, and legislation similar to the telecommunications act needs to be applied to cable provider networks. The cable companies really need to die, and financially suffer while they're at it. I'm talking to you Cox Communications!

bobwonderbuns
Aug 2nd, 2006, 04:34pm
Originally posted by PurpleTentacle
Or even better, digitally capture it and illegally redistribute it with BitTorrent or something. I'd do it, but despite being an IT professional at a "cutting edge" research institution, I'm way back in the stoneage with my own equipment. I'm afraid the best I can do with my own stuff is a VHS tape.

Bless you sir!! After all, it's the thought that counts!

Actually I did talk my friend into taping it for me. I'd love to see it first hand, but at what they are charging per month for satellite/dish/cable these days, I just don't watch enough TV to justify that expense. Funny thing too, the squid shows are the only thing I miss!!! :hmm:

Fini
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:34pm
Tsk tsk!
Programming standards are influenced by ratings; unless people watch and/or purchase a show how is Discovery to know whether a squid documentary is wanted?
I know that Tivo sells information on what their consumers are recording and rating shows to the networks. I'm even participating in a Neilson Rating system through my Tivo; they know what I'm watching!

monty
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:45pm
I know that Tivo sells information on what their consumers are recording and rating shows to the networks. I'm even participating in a Neilson Rating system through my Tivo; they know what I'm watching!

I wonder if they get informed whether you watch the recorded program or not, and how many times... like, can you bias the ratings in favor of Steve's show by recording it all 3 times its on? Can you try to increase the ratings of "Gomer Pyle" or something by telling the tivo to record it every time it's on Nick at Night, even though you just delete it without playing it back? You could even have your computer watch them before deleting, so it thinks someone watched it...

Fini
Aug 2nd, 2006, 06:26pm
That's an interesting question. I'm sure they log that data, whether it's used for something; I would assume yes. I will make sure it get's the three-thumbs up though!

Danno
Aug 2nd, 2006, 08:11pm
I hope we do see more than just those dark blue photos... =)

Spocktopus
Aug 4th, 2006, 01:06pm
Ooh, exciting! I have always been very interested in the Giant Squid. I will be sure to watch it and maybe tape it too!

Danno
Aug 5th, 2006, 09:12pm
Special was kind of... lame... however... will ratings affect say possible funding for more dives etc...?

I want actual footage so bad... how do these things get funded? How can I help? Thanks.

Nancy
Aug 5th, 2006, 09:13pm
I suppose a lot of us watched Discovery and saw our very own Steve plus some interesting footage of the giant squid. It was the best view I'd ever had of sucker rings, beaks and the squid in various poses.
It looked much more active and lively in the photos than in the animations, but I guess that's to be expected.

Nancy

cuttlegirl
Aug 5th, 2006, 10:33pm
Very cool, nice to see Steve in the flesh (so to speak...). I was wondering about the computer animation of the squid catching and eating the fish. I understand that the two tentacles "zip" together, but do you think they really bring the food to their mouth like that? All other cuttlefish and squid that I have seen just retract their tentacles straight in and don't bend them toward their mouth.

Also why were they calling the bait cuttlefish/squid? Weren't they squid?

Thales
Aug 5th, 2006, 11:16pm
They were squid! :smile:

I am watching it now. Amazing they used all that Neil Diamond music! :wink:

sorseress
Aug 6th, 2006, 12:06am
Terrific! Hey, Stevie boy, looking good!

sorseress
Aug 6th, 2006, 12:08am
In all seriousness, I hadn't realized they got so many different shots, or that the squid struggled for that long. The question remains....how would that one hunt, or was he destined to slowly starve?

Architeuthoceras
Aug 6th, 2006, 12:10am
Very good 8-) nice to finally see Steve and a Giant Squid animated :wink:

sorseress
Aug 6th, 2006, 12:11am
That was an animated Steve????:shock: :lol:

Fini
Aug 6th, 2006, 12:16am
Nice video footage! I missed the beginning but the Tivo got it. I'll probably watch it again late tonight.

That was a dapper Steve.

monty
Aug 6th, 2006, 12:20am
They were squid! :smile:


Except when they showed how small squid hunt by showing a "squid" in a tank; I'm pretty sure that was a cuttlefish, but they called it a squid. Although maybe it was a sepioteuthis... it seemed to have a skirt all the way around the mantle, though, which I thought was a feature unique to cuttlefish...


I am watching it now. Amazing they used all that Neil Diamond music! :wink:

When they introduced Steve, they said something like "he has a singular obsession with one thing..." and I said out loud, "yeah, Neil Diamond"

And I agree with everyone who didn't like the animations. ick. And they showed the squid "strobing" when fighting with the sperm whale... It looked like they were going on dosidicus for that, but I thought architeuthis had no photophores at all. I certainly didn't notice any evidence of photophore or chromatophore activity in the severed tentacle. Seeing it grip with its suckers was pretty cool, though...

And was that a brief shot of Kat next to Steve at a lab bench? I didn't think it looked like her face for momentary shot, but I wasn't sure...

sorseress
Aug 6th, 2006, 12:27am
I thought the same thing. D'ya think maybe he was ashamed to admit it? :wink:

Clem
Aug 6th, 2006, 01:04am
Urm, alright, I'm watching it now. I can tell you right now that the narration is a problematic translation (from the original Japanese?), and often out of synch with the images. Guess the translators didn't get the different ways "ika" can be modified...

Holy cow...amazing footage of sperm whales eating giant squid at the surface...I've been waiting for that stuff for years, too:wink:

What? Man in boat attacked by huge squid? No ID, no information or translation of what the man says? Did they only have a Japanese translator? (The fellow looks Northern European)

What?! That's got to be a Mesonychoteuthis club Steve pulls out of the bottle...no clue about it in the narrator's voice-over...

Ah, there you are, Steve...Did you appear in the Japanese version? If so, what did the Japanese translator do to you?

WHAT?! That's got to be animation from the elusive "Animal Face-Off" showing a colossal squid fighting back against a sperm whale...hence the photophoric strobing...again, no word in the narration about it being a totally different kind of squid...

And those had to have been Messie beaks they were sorting in a tray...wait, that wasn't Kat, was it? No, not the beaks, I just caught a glimpse of a young woman with an American accent and hair that wasn't black and pointy...

Oh, here we go...here comes the severed tentacle (called "part of an arm," eh)...Wow. Wow. Video of moving, gripping Architeuthis tentacle, that's a remarkable sight. Thank goodness they had a camcorder on the boat, at least...

Damn, the full sequence of still photos is stunning, absolutely stunning...squid really stretches his arms out wide, and if those were the eyes they were opened very wide, too.

Steve, did you cut your hair with a weed-whacker again?

More Messie CGI. Why does it sound like a dog's squeak toy?

Like what you have to say at the end, there, Steve. Such good-will between scientists is nice to see.

If the aim of this program was to get Japanese folks revved up about the potential for further exploration and research (and kick in some cash), then it must have done rather well, but the English narration isn't very good and is sometimes almost perversely uninformative. TONMO folks who've been following this story will get more out of it than most, I think, but the footage is fantastic and should spark some general interest, here, too.

Oh, and were those Messie's beak-marks in that whales snoot?

Clem

Steve O'Shea
Aug 6th, 2006, 01:29am
Steve, did you cut your hair with a weed-whacker again??
:tomato:
I haven't seen the doco Clem, but I did read the transcript and know where you are coming from.

erich orser
Aug 6th, 2006, 01:50am
Congratulations all the way around! Anyone for a jaunt to the Bonin Islands?

erich orser
Aug 6th, 2006, 02:05am
Steve, did you cut your hair with a weed-whacker again?

Rebecca was just commenting that she thought your hair looked great, Steve!

Of course she does usually resemble an anime character...

Clem
Aug 6th, 2006, 02:11am
What a beautiful solution they came up with. It's almost like fly-fishing: select your brook, identify a promising hole and then aim for a well-chosen spot. I can't think of any reason why the approach couldn't be cheaply tried anywhere there's a steady population of sperm whales and local researchers and captains to compare notes with. Besides, it wouldn't cost too much to upgrade the cameras to video, would it? A live-feed link to the boat would be nice too, I'd wager.

Someone freeze-frame the doco and let us know if that's Kat. Kat, was that you sorting big, black beaks in a white tray? If only I hadn't been writing notes...

:cry:

Steve O'Shea
Aug 6th, 2006, 05:19am
It could have been Kat, or it could have been Emma or Severine; I remember the take. Not that any of Kat, Emma or Severine looks like or is remotely like any other, but it was an awkward shot; I remember it well!

From what I can determine (transcripts), they used portions of one days filming only, in offices, and didn't include any of the sea (sound made difficult by conditions/engines), whale (sound made difficult being in an emergency room, ringing phones and ... emergency room chatter) or endoscope (sound made difficult with torential rain) shots.

I comb my hair once a day, in the morning, and don't see (nor care to see) a mirror for 24 hours (or longer). I tend to have an unruly mop, but the alternative is shaven (and I haven't done this for several years); wifey cuts it every 6-or-so months. If I bearded these days it would be half gray ... so I don't do that anymore either. Sigh.

tonmo
Aug 6th, 2006, 06:40am
Here's why I didn't watch this documentary:

I went and finally bought a big-screen TV yesterday. Was racing against the clock to bring it home and get it hooked up so I could watch the documentary on the new TV.

Instead, I lost my wallet, and wasn't sure where... So I went back out to retrace my steps; meanwhile a VERY kind couple had thankfully found it on the ground near the gas pump (fell out of my shorts pocket as I was getting into the car). I was able to meet up with them at our local mall and they handed it back to me as I thanked them profusely. Nice as pie, those two. I tried to get their business card so I could send them a gift basket from Harry & David or something but they refused.

Anyway, that was what I did during the 8pm hour. I said to myself, "that's OK, I know there are multiple airings". This morning I find out the second one was at midnight last night! And the next isn't until 8/19.

:sad:

I'll join this discussion in a few weeks...

ob
Aug 6th, 2006, 06:54am
Will we ever get it here in the Netherlands, or will I have to wait until I'm no longer a sullen bathypelagic gelatinous blob? That's it, isn't it?! Just because I don't spend my every waking hour posting, tsssk :smile:

Any more info on the spermwhales having an archifest at the surface, Adam?

erich orser
Aug 6th, 2006, 07:22am
It was amazing, Olaf! The Cachalots were carrying Architeuthis mantle chunks in their maws like big bits of - well, frankly, like when dolphins at marine-themed amusement parks are swimming about with loligo in their beaks. Bon appetit!

main_board
Aug 6th, 2006, 08:15am
Well, par for the course, the Canadian Discovery channel was too busy last night showing 7 consecutive episodes of American Chopper to break for some squid news. :mad: And as the Canadian website is almost completely useless, I don't know when I'll be able to see Steve. *tear*
Usually its not a problem, when something is on in the States its on up here, but I guess when it really counted they decided to switch it. Well, here's hoping we get it some time soon!

Cheers!

erich orser
Aug 6th, 2006, 08:23am
That's horribly depressing. I always have extra faith in Canada. Sorry you were let down. Although - I might add - I'd love to se the American Chopper crew do a ceph-themed chopper.

It would probably be awesome.

Erich

main_board
Aug 6th, 2006, 08:35am
The bike would probably be pretty sweet looking. I just can't bring myself to discuss Discovery's new line-up anymore. Really they should change the name to "Discovery for Dummies"! I think it's got promise!

Cheers

Phil
Aug 6th, 2006, 08:50am
I can only but read and feel jealous. When/if it is ever shown over here I expect it'll be hacked up as usual. Fingers crossed.

Thales
Aug 6th, 2006, 11:29am
It didn't look like Kat to me, in either shot.

Nancy
Aug 6th, 2006, 12:00pm
Actually Steve, I thought you came off very well in this documentary, even if some very interesting segments weren't included.

The dubbing of the Japenese was wooden - too bad, that kind of voice takes the speakers personality away.

But despite its shortcomings, the documentary is worth seeing!

As for the hair, well, your very style is being featured in all the back-to-school ads as the latest, cool way to look :smile:

Nancy

sorseress
Aug 6th, 2006, 01:44pm
There were a lot of things wrong with it, ( I just kind of ignored the crummy animation) but learning how they decided where to shoot, and seeing how they got the shots, the whales, and most of all, the pics of the giant squid made all of the failings worth it. I do wish there had been a lot more footage from NZ. It really should have been a 2 hr. special. They had to leave out too much good stuff. By the way Steve, I think half white beards and a tousled mop are sexy!

Steve O'Shea
Aug 6th, 2006, 02:42pm
As for the hair, well, your very style is being featured in all the back-to-school ads as the latest, cool way to look :smile:
Before you know it we'll be dancing in the streets to Neil Diamond again!

"By the way Steve, I think half white beards and a tousled mop are sexy!" and "I just kind of ignored the crummy animation":wink:. Re the animation, was it of a GS dangling its tentacles, clasping a fish and then lunging forward to restrain it, and another piece with a whale chomping on a squid, pointy end down the gullet first? I saw the Japanese version (all 2 hours of it) and noted these two sequences (if we are talking the same thing). Ku was not that happy with them either (they are from the original Japanese production), and stressed that he had not been consulted by the animators. The animation certainly was not as good as normal, but I was absolutely riveted to the screen, because these two sequences most clearly showed what I have been trying to get across to animators for years (and they then go off and do their own thing). It would have been better to have used stick figures/line drawings than to have tried realistic colour ... but themz the breaks.

"Discovery for Dummies"! I think it's got promise! You should read some of the comments on the Discovery Channel website (feedback); you are not alone! Series-driven programming; that's where it is at today. It's a ratings game. I sincerely believe there is a demand for a new, dedicated natural history channel!

.... I have no idea when it airs here (NZ), if it does. We're doing yet another cursed shark week, closely followed by American Chopper ....

chrono_war01
Aug 6th, 2006, 03:33pm
we're also having a shark week, not on Discovery, mind you.


..nothing to contribue here, hav't and will not likely see it in the next decade or so unless I can get it online...free. Sigh, the joys of having no online credit and living in far away places.

Clem
Aug 6th, 2006, 04:55pm
Any more info on the spermwhales having an archifest at the surface, Adam?
Hi Olaf,

There were five standout underwater shots, I thought:

1. Physeter swimming towards camera whilst rolling to show a full, big squid mantle pinched between the jaws, perpendicular to the whales long axis. The tail still has rust colored skin on it, but the rest of the mantle has been abraded white and is remarkably translucent. Whale almost looks like he's showing it off.

2. Pod of cachalots at the surface, oriented noses up, jockeying for pieces of a big squid carcass. Caught a glimpse of what might have been arms being flung around, but it might have been viscera, too.

3. Snorkeler (Mori? Ku?) approaching large portion of mantle at the surface. Again, chromatophores still present on the tail fins. This mantle appeared to have been severed at the posterior/anterior halfway point, and looks to have been from a big gs.

4. Detailed shot of cachalot with what look like two full, recently inflicted Architeuthis club stamps under the left eye. (That reminds me, have there been records of sperm whales that were likely blinded by squid hits?)

5. Brief shot of another sperm whale swimming towards the camera to show what look like two large, beak-inflicted wounds on the nose. The wounds are deep, very clean-edged and elliptical. From the proximity of the shot to the unheralded Mesonychoteuthis CGI, I'd guess that someone thinks the wounds might be Messie's signature. Was that on the lost Face-Off episode?

If this show is ever on iTunes I'd buy it just to be able to pore over these shots. The pod nipping at the carcass is a jaw-dropper, and I may have said an oath, too.

Cheers,
Clem

Tintenfisch
Aug 6th, 2006, 05:42pm
They did do a shot of about 4 students lined up at the bench, with Steve stalking around cracking the whip - I mean, murmuring sweet encouraging nothings - and I was last in the row, so depending on how much of the shot they included, I may have been there for a split second. But I was 'examining' a whole (small) Moroteuthis, so anyone sorting squid beaks wasn't me - most likely Emma.

monty
Aug 6th, 2006, 06:15pm
They did do a shot of about 4 students lined up at the bench, with Steve stalking around cracking the whip - I mean, murmuring sweet encouraging nothings - and I was last in the row, so depending on how much of the shot they included, I may have been there for a split second. But I was 'examining' a whole (small) Moroteuthis, so anyone sorting squid beaks wasn't me - most likely Emma.

In re-watching, it really doesn't look like Kat's pictures, so I bet you're right about it being Emma. Whoever it is is blonde and short-haired, and doesn't have much of an accent, and is being scriptedly asked by Steve "are all these beaks from one whale stomach?" or something like that... The camera angle is aimed at Steve, who's sitting and examining beaks on a lab bench, so the possibly-Emma person is towering over the camera, and at least looks tall from the camera angle.

One of the less crappy animations shows a squid at a 45 degree angle dangling its tentacles straight down and grabbing a fish from both sides. Although the motion and textures aren't so hot, it's a pretty good rendition of that model. However, there is an endemic problem that several animations, including that one, show that after prey is grabbed, rather than retracting the tentacles, they curve back to swing the fish around to the mouth, which looks completely hokey.

As a computer graphics weenie myself, I suspect that the problem there might be less that the animator didn't know that was wrong, and more than the geometric modeler s/he was using didn't allow shortening of the tentacles without a lot of extra work, so to meet the deadline they just changed the tentacle shape without changing the length. I've certainly used some modelers where that would be somewhat easier... not so much because you can't shorten the tentacles in a "jump" but because there's no way to specify that the tentacles gradually get shorter over a sequence, so you'd have to load a new model every frame of the animation. However, I'm also a computer graphics and cephalopod behavior snob, so it bugged me a lot anyway... but I also can think of situations where I'm getting paid for working X hours on an animation and it would take 10X hours to make it look good, so if a client says "sorry, we don't have the budget for that, just do the stupid thing" I've reluctantly made animations I know look bad.

I think a lot of the 3-d stuff of big squids swimming and interacting with whales were from some messie stuff; the squid shape looked much more messie than archie, and that was the one I was complaining about the strobing effect on. And I noticed, but forgot before posting, that the "club in a jar" had hooks, so it was clearly not architeuthis.

I think there was some footage of Steve on a boat, too, but not much.

Akyu
Aug 6th, 2006, 06:51pm
We watched it and loved it. The only shot that made us do a true double-take was the shot of substrate being stirred up by a fan or something. We were wondering what that was all supposed to be about. Other than that, we thought the CG could've been better, LOVED seeing Steve O for the first time, and watched with fascination the sequence of still photos. If we had Tivo, we'd watch it again just to drive the ratings up.

ob
Aug 7th, 2006, 05:42am
One of the less crappy animations shows a squid at a 45 degree angle dangling its tentacles straight down and grabbing a fish from both sides. Although the motion and textures aren't so hot, it's a pretty good rendition of that model. However, there is an endemic problem that several animations, including that one, show that after prey is grabbed, rather than retracting the tentacles, they curve back to swing the fish around to the mouth, which looks completely hokey.


That's spelt "hoki", actually :wink

o.vulgaris
Aug 8th, 2006, 12:43pm
nice vid of squid(arc. dux supposedly) caught on camera: http://youtube.com/watch?v=YWqbH---FX4

WhiteKiboko
Aug 8th, 2006, 05:22pm
nice vid of squid(arc. dux supposedly) caught on camera: http://youtube.com/watch?v=YWqbH---FX4

http://www.tonmo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6750

monty
Aug 8th, 2006, 05:47pm
http://www.tonmo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6750

Scott made it clear at the showing in Hollywood that although he sometimes refers to Dosidicus Gigas as "giant" that A. Dux is not what he dives with and films. Although he also said he'd feel safer in the water with Architeuthis than a pack of big Humboldts. From Ku's pictures, I'm not convinced that this is wise, although the chance of any SCUBA diver being in Archi's native environment is pretty slim. He also didn't mention Colossal squids, which, IIRC, have been seen following Patagonian Toothfish (slightly larger than the average diver) to the surface to eat them....

Anyway, I didn't watch the whole youtube version, but any claim that it's A. Dux is bogus.

Clem
Aug 10th, 2006, 11:19pm
In addition to the Discovery Channel edit, it looks like there's a French version of the NHK film:

Tracking the Giant Squid (http://www.gedeonprogrammes.com/en/fiche.php?annee=&id=170&type=1&real=&titre=&resume=&pos=7&PHPSESSID=85c0f2e55beaca4c2da9608e55f8cf 89)

Clem

Infusoria
Aug 11th, 2006, 03:22am
"In re-watching, it really doesn't look like Kat's pictures, so I bet you're right about it being Emma. Whoever it is is blonde and short-haired, and doesn't have much of an accent, and is being scriptedly asked by Steve "are all these beaks from one whale stomach?" or something like that... The camera angle is aimed at Steve, who's sitting and examining beaks on a lab bench, so the possibly-Emma person is towering over the camera, and at least looks tall from the camera angle."

It most certainly is Emma.

tonmo
Aug 19th, 2006, 06:13am
Repeat, today at noon EST!

tonmo
Aug 19th, 2006, 06:15am
Well, the latest giant squid documentary is finally airing, 3 times on Discovery Channel in August (5 [8pm, et], 6 [12am, et] and 19 [12pm, et]); I haven't seen it yet myself. Click here (http://dsc.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=30491&gid=0&channel=DSC) for further program details.

ARRRGG!!! It was September 16th! (Click the link above and you'll see...) I was looking forward to this all month!

I missed it! Surely it will re-air...

Steve O'Shea
Aug 19th, 2006, 07:16pm
:oops:

Sorry T .... I was certain that it was the 19th; I wonder if they changed the date? (Perhaps I'm getting old and misleading folk ... more likely.)

Don't worry; we still haven't seen it either .... such is life (Discovery still haven't sent it through); haven't seen the BBC Whale one either, because they haven't sent that through.

tonmo
Aug 19th, 2006, 07:57pm
Hey, no problem. It's my own fault for missing it on the 5th and 6th in the first place. Pretty silly that they haven't sent you a copy!

corw314
Aug 19th, 2006, 08:46pm
I missed it too. Just signed up for a reminder the day before.

main_board
Aug 26th, 2006, 06:55pm
And I think that the 16th repeat is going to work in Canada. Before, for the 5th and 6th, the link that Steve posted wouldn't work for me. The page would come up with some sort of error. Now it actually has a page for the new squid documentary, so here hoping! :sagrin:

Cheers!

tonmo
Aug 26th, 2006, 08:03pm
Ah, September 16th at noon! Got it!

corw314
Sep 16th, 2006, 07:13am
Today, at noon EST! I'm basing my day around it!

Carol

tonmo
Sep 16th, 2006, 07:27am
DVR'ing it!

main_board
Sep 16th, 2006, 01:23pm
Again, not on in :canada: ... sigh...

Toren
Sep 20th, 2006, 04:08am
Again, not on in :canada: ... sigh...

Well Wonderpus, at least we've got this:

Title: Monster Warriors
Episode: The Beast From Beneath the Sea
Description: A giant squid threatens the town's Harbor Days celebrations.
Showing:
Date Channel
9/30/2006 YTV
10/1/2006 YTV

main_board
Sep 20th, 2006, 12:25pm
Ah, YTV. Quality television that knows no bounds.

main_board
Sep 23rd, 2006, 11:41am
Surfing on YouTube (love that YouTube), I came across a clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGLUT62mHz4) from the Discovery Channel documentary. It's brief, but contains cool footage of when they pulled the tentacle out of the water and it was still active. I'm struck by the immaculate white on the oral surface of the tentacle club. Amazing!

Cheers!

main_board
Sep 25th, 2006, 08:14pm
Thanks, Toren. Tried to change it but I've lost the 'Edit' function. Post must be too old.

Cheers!

tonmo
Sep 25th, 2006, 08:29pm
Fixed it!

Heather Braid
Nov 17th, 2007, 10:59pm
Yes indeed, I remember Steve telling us about Steve O and the squid dumped in his drive episode. Is there any chance of some kind soul hosting this on youtube please? I'd love to see this.

I was looking on youtube and found that somebody put it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbwxLHHXxKo

Danno
Nov 18th, 2007, 08:05am
Haha. Last time I saw Steve-O he was wasted beyond belief.

Poor O'Shea, I hope he wasn't too pissed his squids were falling apart on him.

Clem
Nov 18th, 2007, 01:06pm
Today must be squid day on Discovery, just saw part of "Secrets of the Deep" w/ CGI Mesonychoteuthis wrassling a sperm whale, and now (1pm) there's a Humboldt doco on.

Clem

dwhatley
Nov 24th, 2007, 03:13am
Thank Heather! I've been away from the computer for a week and just saw this, I laughed so hard I was crying!