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spartacus
May 22nd, 2006, 01:56pm
hi all, here's another couple of the same species from down my way of the west coast of France. From the same site as my previous Oxycerites orbis & Oppelia aspidoides , therefore Bathonien unless you use Phil's timeline where they'd be from last weekend :razz: !

The good one is 100mm, 10cm, 0.1m or 4" in dia & exactly how it popped from a big rock. The other with the centre whorls missing has been hacked to free the calcite middle, as the rest were mashed, but it turned out that the centre had already gone :cry: . The backside was eroded out & home to a rather large hidden ragworm

Now it's your go Phil to tell me what it is as it ain't in me book !

Keef
http://www.tonmo.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2538&stc=1&d=1148320448
http://www.tonmo.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2539&stc=1&d=1148320518
http://www.tonmo.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2540&stc=1&d=1148320518

neuropteris
May 23rd, 2006, 05:23am
Great finds! Makes me want to pick up the hammer and get out there again - I've not been out looking for ammonites for ages. Haven't a clue on Bathonian ammonites myself so have you any ideas on species yet?

Andy

spartacus
May 23rd, 2006, 12:54pm
hi Andy, as Kevin & Phil gargle omega 3, I'd thought I'd leave it to them, test their powers of deduction & earn their considerable Tonmo salaries :twocents: !

Keef

AndyS
May 23rd, 2006, 02:18pm
Spartacus,

Oppelia aspidoides is from the upper Bajocian, if your other ammonites are from the same layer they could be Bigotites sp.

AndyS

spartacus
May 23rd, 2006, 03:03pm
hi Andy (S), confusion reigns ! I'm gonna bin my Vendée geo guide as I see where you're coming from, in it Oppelia is dated Bathonien !
Herve Chatelier also throws up Bajocisphinctes as another deadringer that would fit possibly ?
I may have to switch to stamp collecting as my head hurts.

Keef

Phil
May 23rd, 2006, 06:20pm
...earn their considerable Tonmo salaries :twocents: !

Er....as in $0?

Great finds as ever, Lord Spart.

Well having learnt a lesson or two in the past couple of years, I'm not going to spend two hours trying to work out what it could be and then get it completely wrong. To be honest, I have not got a clue what is!

According to my copy of Paleobase, Oppelia was confined to the Bajocian, i.e 176.5-169.2 mya. Not that's much help to you, mind.

As an Oppelia fact-o-bite, Hewitt in 1993 studied growth rates in Oppelia, and using growth increments in the jaws determined that they probably reached maturity in a year. This is the same as most living cephalopods which reach sexual maturity in a year or two, spawn, and abruptly die.

P.S. Don't knock gargling Omega 3. It's more fun than googling it.

Architeuthoceras
May 23rd, 2006, 08:41pm
Something from the Family Stephanoceratidae for sure :smile:

spartacus
May 25th, 2006, 02:12pm
hi guys ! you still not being paid then ?
Checked out Bigotites & it seems well to porky in the thickness dept. Bajocisphinctes is spot on proportionally but what do I know in comparison with Tonmo's three Magi ?
There again Prorsisphinctes does the job too, not forgetting Leptosphinctes & a host of others :cry:
I'll just catalogue it as an ammonite methinks :bonk:

Architeuthoceras
May 28th, 2006, 12:13am
It looked to me like Stemmatoceras of the family Stephanoceratidae :oops: but with a closer look I saw the constrictions so placing it in the family Perisphinctidae is best. Still dont know what genus.

What is Omega 3 ?

WhiteKiboko
May 28th, 2006, 12:31am
What is Omega 3 ?

an essential fatty acid commonly found in fish and certain plants.....

spartacus
May 28th, 2006, 03:48am
........ one spoonful & instead of hanging about round bus stops & shopping malls, errant kids spontaneously start queuing up outside libraries to do some swatting !

Kevin, I did wonder about your initial ID :shock: but didn't want to undermine your self-confidence !

Keef

Architeuthoceras
May 28th, 2006, 01:52pm
You can tell I havnt had any recently... will have to change my diet from steak and spuds to fish and chips :wink:

spartacus
May 28th, 2006, 02:23pm
get them sardines down your neck Kevin !
Apparently, Phil swears by them & uses an "oily fish" based body rub. This may also explain why he does the majority of his socializing online !

Keef

cuttlegirl
May 28th, 2006, 03:00pm
Originally posted by Spartacus
Phil swears by them & uses an "oily fish" based body rub.

Now there's an interesting image :shock: "Dear, could you rub smashed up fish on my back for me???"

sorseress
May 28th, 2006, 03:13pm
Phil's girl must be very tolerant.....:goldfish:

spartacus
May 28th, 2006, 03:52pm
:lol:, sorry Phil :silenced:

Keef

cuttlegirl
May 28th, 2006, 04:56pm
Originally posted by Sorceress
Phil's girl must be very tolerant....

I was thinking the same thing, but I was trying to be polite...:grin:

sorseress
May 28th, 2006, 05:07pm
Why bother??? :sagrin: (the devil made me do it!)

cuttlegirl
May 28th, 2006, 05:11pm
I try to be a good girl... :grin:

sorseress
May 28th, 2006, 05:13pm
I'm too old to try to kid anybody. An old, evil, crone, that's me!:twisted:

Phil
May 29th, 2006, 08:18pm
Amazing. I fail to log on for 48 hours or so and come back to find mysterious girls want to rub me in fish oils because I have a few ammonites.

If only life was that much fun.

bobwonderbuns
May 29th, 2006, 08:30pm
Originally posted by Phil
Amazing. I fail to log on for 48 hours or so and come back to find mysterious girls want to rub me in fish oils because I have a few ammonites.

If only life was that much fun

:sly: You lucky guy Phil!

sorseress
May 29th, 2006, 09:29pm
Will it keep your skin :baby: soft???

cuttlegirl
May 29th, 2006, 09:54pm
Originally posted by Phil
Amazing. I fail to log on for 48 hours or so and come back to find mysterious girls want to rub me in fish oils because I have a few ammonites.



We don't want flashy cars or even musicians in a band, give us a good 200 million year old rock and we're happy...

Maybe we are just after this fossil...
http://www.tonmo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1983&page=6&highlight=baculum

Although it does help if you can cook...

neuropteris
May 30th, 2006, 11:16am
When I was little, if ever I was lying ill in bed my mum used to come up and threaten to rub me in goose grease. If only she'd used Eydens Patent Fishy Rub my life could have been completely different!

spartacus
May 30th, 2006, 12:17pm
Phil, so much for Spanish Fly !
Dover Sole it is ! :heart: :smoke:

sorseress
May 30th, 2006, 01:50pm
Guys, I think cocoa butter would work too, and it smells a lot better....likeCHOCOLATE!!!:sly: