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shipposhack
May 6th, 2007, 11:49pm
http://www.marinedepotlive.com/octopus---octopus-bimaculatus-inverts-octopus--cephalopods-.html

$50 for the octo + $35 for shipping = expensive but better than nothing.

If you've been looking these guys say they have limited quantities of Bimaculatus available.

DHyslop
May 7th, 2007, 08:29pm
Its worth mentioning there's no way on Earth that Marine Depot knows how to identify any octopus to the species level, much less differentiate O. bimaculoides and O. bimaculatus.

I truly believe that anyone interested in a cephalopod is better off waiting for availability from a diver or hobby breeder here on TONMO than ordering from any retailer.

Dan

Opcn
May 8th, 2007, 12:42am
So, today I lost all but one of my fish (a clown goby who took the 90+F temps) to a heater that failed on. Now, assuming that my tank comes back strong from this reletively soon I'd like to put an octo into it. Its a 24 gallon aquapod, but I'm buying a 29 gallon and I could very easily move the LR and filter floss over and have a stable set up thats a tad bigger.

So what kind of Octo and where could I get it?

Danthemarineman
May 8th, 2007, 12:57am
I still have dawrf octopi. They would do well in your small tank.

Blitz99
May 9th, 2007, 12:40am
I still have dawrf octopi. They would do well in your small tank.

i pm'd you looking for some information, please let me know.

Tone1987
May 9th, 2007, 08:27pm
I just checked I know someone that works at liveaquaria and they now have a shipment of Indo Pacific octos in they have limited supply... I have done countless business with them and they are awesome with everything and shipping I have never had a problem...
Hope this help
-Tony

dean_567
May 10th, 2007, 07:12am
hey everyone. being a states based site, am not surprised that everyone in this thread is talking about US suppliers, but living in south london, england, its just no good! lol
does ANYONE no of any suppliers in the uk for octopus, or anything that could point me in the right direction?

zyan silver
May 10th, 2007, 11:56pm
with apologies to dean567, i have bimacs still. maybe 30. i will hold back about 10 hoping for captive gravid females that will lay eggs. i have a few ceramic pots that they are using for dens now. i dont know if 9 months is old or not. i expect them to live past 12 mo. maybe 15-18 mo. who knows? i would still like to find good homes for many of them. i've been selling them for $20 plus fedex shipping costs. as those of you have read my article in the june TFH mag know, i 've had a great time with this project. thanks to all who helped me and have had my babies in their home aquaria. zyan

dutchcourage
May 11th, 2007, 12:58am
Thanks Zyan for the great Bimacs they are still going strong and getting bigger :smile:

shipposhack
May 11th, 2007, 01:38am
Zyan do you plan on having any mid-late july? I know you probably will just have ones that don't sell, but just wondered. Also how old are they right now?

Tone1987
May 11th, 2007, 11:16am
Zyan do you plan on having any mid-late july? I know you probably will just have ones that don't sell, but just wondered. Also how old are they right now?
I would be intrested as well I am working on seting up a superior system now....

dand
May 15th, 2007, 05:02pm
Hey Zyan, I sent you an e-mail through the board and have not had a response. I am looking to take a bimac off your hands can you please e-mail or call me.

dstrackw45@comcast.net
773-316-3266

Thanks
Dan

dwhatley
May 17th, 2007, 02:08am
The Tonmo email system has been experiencing problems but you might try a private message in addition to your post since the post may not show at the top of the list but a PM will notify him that there is a message when he next signs in

dand
May 21st, 2007, 04:49pm
Thanks dwhatley but Zyan got a hold of me.

p.s. does the name Whatley have anything to do with Jack Whatley of discus fame?

thanks
Dan

dwhatley
May 23rd, 2007, 01:43am
Dan,
I did keep a couple of Discus before reventuring into saltwater (last died about 6 months ago but some of the other critters keep my last FW running and preventing me from using it as a sump 8-)) but the name spelling is different, the expert is Wattley, the novice is Whatley :tongue:

bobby a.
Jun 9th, 2007, 04:10pm
any one have any bimacs or know where to find one. i had one and it passed a few months ago. now im ready for another. we only have two lfs and neither one of them know anything about octos. they both tell me that when they see them on the "list" it just says octopus and no one knows exactly what kind they are.

any help would be gratly appretiated.

DHyslop
Jun 9th, 2007, 05:05pm
Bobby,

Bimacs are nearing the end of their natural lifespan now. The current crop that most of us have were born in August, and at least one has already died of old age. If you bought one today you might have as little as a few weeks with it. There will probably be another crop available in the fall.

Dan

tywtly
Jun 15th, 2007, 04:10pm
Dan,
I did keep a couple of Discus before reventuring into saltwater (last died about 6 months ago but some of the other critters keep my last FW running and preventing me from using it as a sump 8-)) but the name spelling is different, the expert is Wattley, the novice is Whatley :tongue:


and the other novice (me) is watley!...lotta watleys, lotta different ways 2 spell it.

dwhatley
Jun 16th, 2007, 02:34am
tywtly,
And all of us not quite right in the head I suspect :sagrin:

monty
Jun 16th, 2007, 02:46am
Well, I'm just glad neither of you spell it Whateley (http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/thedunwichhorror.htm) or we'd have to move this over to the :cthulhu: forum...

dwhatley
Jun 16th, 2007, 03:21am
Monty,
I swear my use of the devil smilie was innocent. You may have noticed that some of the clan escaped to centers of higher learning in spite of the inbreeding. Besides, I married into the name :twisted:

monty
Jun 16th, 2007, 03:35am
Monty,
I swear my use of the devil smilie was innocent. You may have noticed that some of the clan escaped to centers of higher learning in spite of the inbreeding. Besides, I married into the name :twisted:

If I'm not mistaken, around these parts a suggestion that one might be related to Lovecraftian eldrich horrors is a positive thing, anyway. As opposed to, say, being related to Neil Diamond, for example...

tywtly
Jun 16th, 2007, 12:55pm
tywtly,
And all of us not quite right in the head I suspect :sagrin:

Haha, how'd you know!?!

dwhatley
Jun 17th, 2007, 07:22am
Ty,
Comes free with the name

tywtly
Jun 19th, 2007, 03:03pm
Will anyone have aculeatus available? if so, when? I don't have a certain time in mind, I just want to know when aculeatus are available.

tywtly
Jun 19th, 2007, 03:07pm
And D,
I guess all of us are crazy!

marinebio_guy
Jun 25th, 2007, 08:30pm
Will anyone have aculeatus available? if so, when? I don't have a certain time in mind, I just want to know when aculeatus are available.

There is a chance I will have one or two at the first of July.

shipposhack
Jun 25th, 2007, 08:35pm
PM coming right up, Marinebioguy

tywtly
Jun 29th, 2007, 03:31pm
There is a chance I will have one or two at the first of July.

Crap. That's about when I'll be setting my tank up so right about then I should have around three months cycling time left. Oh well.

When will bimacs be available?

shipposhack
Jun 29th, 2007, 03:46pm
There should be another round of them available in the fall, so after your cycle they should be a good size.

tywtly
Jun 29th, 2007, 06:16pm
Ok, thanks. Do you have any idea who should I talk to when my tank is ready?

DHyslop
Jun 29th, 2007, 07:15pm
Tywtly,

If you watch this thread, you'll know as soon as anyone else.

tywtly
Jun 30th, 2007, 12:28pm
Ok, that makes sense.

dwhatley
Jul 6th, 2007, 12:33am
Dana is a commercial diver. I don't know him personally but have talked to and purchased from him in the past. He works for a fully licensed firm and offers some of his finds directly on eBay. He should be able to properly id this little Briareus.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-Octopus-briareus-live-coral-saltwater-nano-fish-crabs_W0QQitemZ220126580553QQihZ012QQcat egoryZ66788QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIte m#ebayphotohosting

Brock Fluharty
Jul 6th, 2007, 05:18pm
I'm pretty sure that Dana is a she. I've bought dwarf seahorses from her.

She has a website, but the octos aren't listed there.

www.ccritters.com

Brock Fluharty
Jul 6th, 2007, 05:19pm
Also, I once saw an O. mercatoris for sale at www.sealifeinc.net

dwhatley
Jul 7th, 2007, 01:47am
Brock,

Don't let Dana (or his girlfriend) see that! I can guarantee he is a VERY much a guy :grin:. I have not met him (as in face to face) but I have bought several things directly from him (not via eBay), talked with him at length over the phone, briefly met the guy he works for last week (Tom of Tom's Tropicals) and he used to do some airport driving for SealifeInc.net (I am the webmaster here so thanks for the mention since I don't feel I can brag on Ken too much on the forum). Small world :wink:

What I did not know was that Dana closed his eBay store and started his own website. The eBay store closing must have happened very recently since his link to see what else he has for sale is not working and there are still some loose ends on the site.

If anyone is interested, Dana is a FL keys diver and will take orders for unusual fish or critters. Just remember that the warehouse is the ocean and things are not neatly placed in tanks to be picked out and shipped the next day.

Ken (Sealifeinc.net) usually gets the Mercs during crab season but rarely gets them at other times of the year (late December - late February). He just kind of shakes his head at me for my love of cephs and seahorses but has carried more of both since I have such a strong interest. Trapper came from Ken.

delosa
Jul 9th, 2007, 04:53am
Just got an e-mail that octopuses were available at Tropical Fish Outlet. I don't know anything about them but thought I would pass it on. It is listed as an Octopus bimaculoides and they stated they were tank raised.

http://www.tropicalfishoutlet.com/Invertspecies.asp?InvertSubCategoryID=21 5&InvertType=

Brock Fluharty
Jul 16th, 2007, 09:49am
Sorry, I guess Dana is a he!

Yeah, he closed his ebay store recently. Not sure if it's for good, or because he's leaving for Russia next month...? Who knows.

I can nothing but good about Ken. Great prices, great animals, and great service!!!

dwhatley
Jul 17th, 2007, 12:50am
Brock,

I think Dana closed the store because he started the website and wanted out from under the ever increasing eBay costs (Russia, are you yanking my chain? Dana is so laid back I would not imagine him going out of the country to work but ...). It was fun to tell Ken about the new site since your post gave me one upsmanship on him :wink:.

The Keys group is an interesting mixture of heavy politics, and semi-covert competition with varying degrees of conservation mixed in. It is impossible to have been a diver/fisherman there for very long and not have noticed the changes but what to do about the problem is a never ending battle. Ken recently (the day before I went down there) got permission to "plant" some of the staghorn frags he has been growing for the last 5 years on his LR farm. He recently went to a ceremony in Washington to receive an award for his conservation efforts in Florida and will be featured on NBC sometime soon (footage completed but date is not yet known).

Brock Fluharty
Jul 17th, 2007, 02:30am
No, i'm pretty sure he's going to Russia on vacation. Not to work.

Ochopus
Jul 18th, 2007, 01:54pm
Circle Pets here in Long Beach has a little octopus for sale. Poor little guy is stuck in a liter sized plastic container with a rock ontop. He cant hide, play, or really move around! $49.99. When asked the type of octopus, they replied "Indonesian"... I have no idea how old he is or how long he's been there...

Here are the details...

Circle Pet & Tropical Fish
1940 Ximeno Avenue
Long Beach, CA 90815
Phone: 562-597-0619
www.circlepet.com

cuttlegirl
Jul 18th, 2007, 04:13pm
Circle Pet is a good store though. I used to live in Long Beach and I bought all of my supplies there. In general, the staff are knowledgeable and care about the animals. Probably the octopus is in a small container so they don't have to catch it when someone wants to purchase it...

marinebio_guy
Jul 18th, 2007, 05:21pm
I sometimes use All About Fish which is in Long Beach. It's a small store but the owner is knowledgeable and can get octopus if asked.

Krakilin
Jul 26th, 2007, 05:13am
Baby Briareus available on Ebay again.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220132744507

shipposhack
Jul 27th, 2007, 06:44pm
Saltwaterfish.com currently has their octopuses on sale. They are $50. I think minimum order is $80 but you could just buy crabs or something for him to eat if you don't have another tank.

Paradox
Jul 27th, 2007, 08:08pm
In San Francisco Bay area..there are a couple for 30$ each at.. 6th avenue. Looks like bimancs

Animal Mother
Jul 31st, 2007, 01:10am
I recieve one from Saltwaterfish.com tomorrow. They apparently still have them in stock. There is a $9 "fuel charge" on top of the manditory $79 minimum order.

I was told via email from the swf.com staff that they receive their octopuses from a collector in the Caribbean. Considering the ones I've seen from swf.com have false eye-spots like a Bimac, I assume they are O. Filosus, aka the Caribbean Two-Spot Octopus.

fuegofish777
Aug 4th, 2007, 03:34am
Hey guys and gals, the store i work at just got one in too. i dont know if im allowed to post that.... but i work at Pacific Reef in Fountain valley, Ca. im not sure what species it is but it was collected from "eastern asia". its about 10" from arm to arm when reaching with a mantle barely over an inch across. its just a mottled brown with no distinguishing marks that i noticed. just thought i'd give you all a heads up. i think its 59.99 Dont worry we dont make comission... ;)

Pacific Reef
18926-A Brookhurst St.
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 964-8899

shipposhack
Aug 5th, 2007, 02:10am
Wow, an asian octo. That's pretty cool. Not a lot of stuff comes in from over there.

Paradox
Aug 7th, 2007, 10:38pm
Wonderpus available at Ocean Treasures in San Francisco. $300

Looks very active and is eating.

Octopus_Reef
Aug 14th, 2007, 11:39pm
I have a small TR Bimac if anyone is interested, its head is about nickle sized. I bought 2 yesterday (8/13/07) But now I think I only want to focus on 1.
I just want what I paid for it. 50.00

I will ship if interested. I am in Utah 84780

shipposhack
Aug 15th, 2007, 12:46am
If you don't mind my asking where did you get him from?

Octopus_Reef
Aug 16th, 2007, 12:56am
If you don't mind my asking where did you get him from?

I got them in california when I was down there.

zyan silver
Aug 18th, 2007, 02:02am
It's happened. One of the females has laid eggs. I counted about 40 but didnt make any effort to move her around to see into the back of the den. She is in a small vase. Very exciting. Zy

sorseress
Aug 18th, 2007, 01:29pm
That's great, Zyan! Keep us posted.

delosa
Aug 18th, 2007, 07:14pm
I'm glad to hear it Zane. My little Octopus laid eggs too, but I think they are going to be too small to keep. I've give it my best but I'm not putting my money any babies growing up.

Nancy
Aug 18th, 2007, 09:52pm
Good news, Zyan!

Nancy

DHyslop
Aug 18th, 2007, 10:02pm
Good news? I was hoping they wouldn't start laying eggs for another six months :)

Nancy
Aug 31st, 2007, 02:05am
Danthemarineman has mercatoris for sale:
http://www.tonmo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=100767#post100767
our members have bought some of his octopuses last year.

Nancy

discusbreeder
Sep 4th, 2007, 11:09pm
im interested in a bimac. can anyone help.

sindas
Sep 6th, 2007, 12:00am
anyone know a LFS near sotuhern indiana that sells bimac octopi?

discusbreeder
Sep 6th, 2007, 05:05pm
Does any one know of any near Detroit?
:angelpus:

marinebio_guy
Sep 6th, 2007, 05:21pm
Most pet stores do not carry octopus, but some will be able special order them.

bluezombie
Sep 16th, 2007, 01:54pm
If anybody has any Bimacs, or Vulgaris, and can ship to Canada, please let me know!

marinebio_guy
Sep 18th, 2007, 05:20pm
My bimac eggs have started to hatch out today, so I'll start selling them in about 2 weeks.

MBG

Bigpapa
Sep 18th, 2007, 05:27pm
Congrats!!!!

dude
Sep 20th, 2007, 01:00pm
My bimac eggs have started to hatch out today, so I'll start selling them in about 2 weeks.

MBG

how much do you want for them:sly:

marinebio_guy
Sep 20th, 2007, 07:25pm
They will be $40 plus $5 box charge and shipping.

sindas
Sep 20th, 2007, 07:35pm
dang, i wish my tank was ready. i hope there is someone wiht babies when it is!

dude
Sep 20th, 2007, 07:37pm
go lower :wink::wink::oops::sly:

Animal Mother
Sep 20th, 2007, 07:54pm
go lower :wink::wink::oops::sly:

Dude, that's already cheaper than anywhere else you're going to find them online or at a LFS. He's probably going to spend at least that on live foods for the babies before he ships them.

marinebio_guy
Sep 20th, 2007, 08:01pm
At that price I'm just about breacking even. If you can find someone selling them for cheaper I will beat there price. But I dought you could even find a wild caught animal cheaper than that unless you catch it yourself, although the permit to do so would cost more than $50. If you pick it up from me in the L.A. area I might be able to go down to $35 total, but that would only be for hatchlings.

Nancy
Sep 20th, 2007, 09:25pm
Actually, I think one of the problems we're having as octopus keepers is that our breeders are selling their tank-bred octopuses for far too little money. I'd like to see octopuses go for twice as much. People like marinebio_guy put a lot of time and money into the breeding project and then sell for little or no profit. There is little reason to do it again or for others to get interested in breeding.

We watched Octopets go under, after selling their little bimacs for very little.

Just go to an LFS and price the fish and corals to see what a bargain an octopus is.

Nancy

sindas
Sep 20th, 2007, 10:12pm
yeah, all of us know as buyers it's tough to spend very much money on stuff, but you gotta think of how much the person is spending just to breed them, let alone keep the babies until there sold.

DHyslop
Sep 20th, 2007, 11:17pm
Besides, $45 + ~ $50-60 for shipping is nothing. Over my octopus' lifespan I've spent twice that in crabs. When my cuttlefish were young I was spending nearly that much for food every two weeks. This hobby is not cheap, and if you can't manage a hundred bucks for the octopus I doubt you can afford everything you need to give it a good home.

Dan

cuttlegirl
Sep 21st, 2007, 12:17pm
Having raised and bred S. bandensis, I know that $40 is not even breaking even... I would be willing to pay more for a captive bred animal, that way I would know it's origin and age. DHyslop is also correct about spending more on food than on the original animal. Keeping a cephalopod is an on-going expense.

bluezombie
Sep 21st, 2007, 12:51pm
I hope my tank will be ready soon.

shipposhack
Sep 21st, 2007, 07:08pm
bluezombie- I think you mentioned that already; You need to wait 3 months from the set up date to ensure your octo's home is a good one.

The LFS I work at got a tank raised bimac in for $80. We paid $45.

bluezombie
Sep 23rd, 2007, 03:25am
bluezombie- I think you mentioned that already; You need to wait 3 months from the set up date to ensure your octo's home is a good one.

The LFS I work at got a tank raised bimac in for $80. We paid $45.

For sure i won't rush. I'll probably just have to wait for the next batch.

shipposhack
Sep 23rd, 2007, 03:46pm
All of the babies probably won't get sold. I think Zyan had about 20 left from his batch (not sure how many he started with), some of which I think laid eggs already. Marinebio_guy might sell all his, but there still should be some other tank raised ones ready throughout the year.

Scuba Kid
Sep 25th, 2007, 07:26pm
Marinebio_guy: How often are your bimacs available? I will be looking for a bimac in the relative future, but not in only a week or so. Do you sell them regularly?

marinebio_guy
Sep 25th, 2007, 07:51pm
Availability is sporadic. There is a chance I might be moving in a month in which case it would be a while before I could get things back up and running.

Bigpapa
Sep 25th, 2007, 07:56pm
I would be interested in one of the newborns too. thanks

Scuba Kid
Sep 26th, 2007, 09:23pm
Availability is sporadic. There is a chance I might be moving in a month in which case it would be a while before I could get things back up and running.

Good to know. So when will the next batch of youngins be ready to sell? I will be able to take one afterall. :)

Also, at what age/size to you sell them?

Thanks. :)

marinebio_guy
Sep 26th, 2007, 10:52pm
Some will be ready to sell in 2 weeks at which time they will be about the size of a quater.

Good to know. So when will the next batch of youngins be ready to sell? I will be able to take one afterall. :)

Also, at what age/size to you sell them?

Thanks. :)

Nancy
Sep 28th, 2007, 09:36pm
Richard of Tampa Bay Saltwater (TBS), sent me this to post:

I got 3 gulf dwarfs yesterday diving, spread out a little larger than a silver dollar.....am shipping them via us mail right to the door, octo is $40 shipping is $30

Nancy

P.S. These would most likely be O. mercatoris.
N.

chrissie45
Sep 29th, 2007, 08:52pm
I teach science at a private school. We have a couple of reef and saltwater aquarium for teaching purposes. I have a cycling saltwater aquarium that is about ready for livestock. I looking for a bimac. Does anyone have one?

shipposhack
Sep 30th, 2007, 12:30am
No one has bimacs right now but marinebio_guy should have babies shortly.

joefish84
Oct 1st, 2007, 05:07pm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ONE-1-Live-Octopus-LIVE-HEALTHY-MARINE-FISH-OCTOPUS_W0QQitemZ180164122230QQihZ008QQc ategoryZ66788QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

marinebio_guy
Oct 1st, 2007, 06:10pm
I'm starting to ship out my hatchlings.

Scuba Kid
Oct 1st, 2007, 07:34pm
Marinebio_guy: I sent you a PM in regards to the bimacs.

marinebio_guy
Oct 2nd, 2007, 12:35am
For people interested in my bimacs currently I'm feeding them small snails and hermit crabs, they will also eat small ghost shrimp. It is best to keep them in a small container at first such as the mesh breeding baskets that you can hang from the side of your tank until they are 2 inches or larger so that it's easier to feed and observe them.

Bigpapa
Oct 2nd, 2007, 08:41am
Right now I have a small critter cage to put inside the tank, is this ok or should I go with the net? about how large are they or can you post a photo? I am guessing that if they can take small snails and hermits they are about the size of a dime?

marinebio_guy
Oct 2nd, 2007, 12:21pm
Right now they are between the size of a nickel and quarter. A critter cage is a little iffy as they might be able to crawl out through the top vents. The good thing about the mesh breeders is that sense they hang from the top of the tank the top of the net is out of the water and therefor inhibits the octo's from crawling out. It's also good to lower the water level of your tank a little so there is about 2 inches of air space from the top of the water and the top of the breeder net.

dwhatley
Oct 2nd, 2007, 07:59pm
joefish,
That speckled look and long legs look Briaius but shouldn't the mantle be larger for 3+ months?

Bigpapa
Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:43am
http://cgi.ebay.com/Live-Saltwater-Octopus-Briareus-1-5-head_W0QQitemZ190159026391QQihZ009QQcate goryZ66788QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem

another briarius i think sheesh

dwhatley
Oct 3rd, 2007, 03:12am
Rob,
Tom often offers them on his site and is a respectable, licenses collector. I believe Drakanorn bought his from him.

Bigpapa
Oct 3rd, 2007, 07:59am
Oh good, I didnt mean to sound doubtful about it, was more that I have now found 3 in the last couple days when I had not been able to find any prior to that.-sry if that was how my "sheesh" may have come across, was not meant to be negative.

Animal Mother
Oct 3rd, 2007, 08:44am
Rob,
Tom often offers them on his site and is a respectable, licenses collector. I believe Drakanorn bought his from him.

What a horses rear... I have been emailing him because on his website he only charges a straight up $30 for Briareus and just last week he told me he hadn't seen any for 6 weeks. So I guess he would rather sell to the highest bidder... bah!

I just won a Briareus on Ebay this past Saturday from Dana and Monday he responded with "I lost the little guy in a big tank, have to find him, sorry for the delay". I responded with "I just want my money back" because chances are it escaped to its death. I haven't heard from him since.