Has anyone in the Bay Area responded to this previous post about an octopus looking for a home?

Nancy

Righty and I have both responded. As of yet there's no species info or even pics...I'd like to know a bit more before committing.

--Jay

I hope one of you takes him!

Reading the posts, I'd say the owner is asking for some token in exchange for the octopus so he doesn't have to tell his girlfriend he gave away her gift.

Nancy

I just wanted to let you all know that while I was looking at setting up an aggressive species tank I stopped by That Pet Place in Lancaster Pennsylvania (its about 40 minutes north of me) and they DO sell octos. However, when I was there last (about 1 month ago) the octo that they had there was classified as "common brown octopus"... which kind of made me laugh since there is nothing "common" or "brown" about most octos.

Also, The Hidden Reef that was mentioned earlier that is located in downtown Philly recently burned to the ground in some sort of freak fire accident. I hear that they are rebuilding and will be open for business again, though I am not sure when that is going to be. I'll try to see what I can find out.

-UPDATE-

I have just contacted some people I know that work at That Pet Place in Lancaster, PA. I was told that on average they have 1-2 octopi every month, sometimes up to 4 per month that arrive. They are mostly O. Vulgaris... every 1-6 months they will get in 2 Cuttlefish. They DO ship mail delivery, of course they cannot guarantee safe shipping due to inking and such. :roll:

I asked about the average age of the little guys when they get in, and I was told that the O. Vulgaris is either in their 1st month of life up to 4 months TOPS. :grin:

The largest they had ever gotten in was 5-6 inches from tentacle to tentacle with 1.5-inch mantle. They had even gotten in a mimic octo once, though they didn't even know it was a mimic until about 3 months later. Of course, the little guy didn't survive long but that is to be expected with mimics.

So, for those who are ready and looking it would appear that there is a stable provider... quantity may not be there, but its a start. :smile:

would they be willing to ship?? to, say, Colorado?lol

Shipping is their business.

I saw a mimic available for $200 something at Big Al's in ft laud about 2 weeks ago. First mimic I have ever seen available in a shop. Doubtful they would sell online. http://www.bigalsonline.com/ They also happened to have a briareus.

oh sorry i thought it was a smaller pet shop. do they have a website?? do they sell online?

That's their business :)

edit: try www.thatpetplace.com

I'm thinking it's possible that some LFSs, even those used to doing online business, don't advertise their octos on their sites.

Nancy

That's their business :)

edit: try www.thatpetplace.com

What's the deal? I called them yesturday while I was in Philadelphia and a women working there told me they don't sell octopus and never had.

That's news to me cause 6 of the 9 I've had came from there!!! :roll:

I notice that it divides into two parts - That Pet Place and That Fish Place - maybe you got the Pet people when you called. Also, I'm not sure they advertise their octos on their website.

Nancy

I notice that it divides into two parts - That Pet Place and That Fish Place - maybe you got the Pet people when you called. Also, I'm not sure they advertise their octos on their website.

Nancy

Lol, thank god you said that cuz I never thought of it. I was in philadelphia yesturday and called the 411 hotline to reach "That Pet Place" in Pennsylvania...they give you a phone option to press so I contacted a worker at the store. The women I spoke with works with the animals and said they never had them and dont sell them...I cant understand why she couldnt at least direct me to the fish place, but since someone on here visited and saw one...AND Carol bought most of hers from that store, it makes sense that they have them for sure. Im really desperate to call them now cuz im hanging on strings:

The TampaBaySaltwater site is currently not getting any octo's as it seems. Trap season is over and Vulgaris is harder to get in the spring/summer...also, according to the voice mail when you call, only 1 guy is working as a one man show...im guessing everyone else is no longer a part of the team. My order has still been left hanging on that site.

AquaticVisions in northern Jersey hasent gotten any octo's in for the past few months and the manager told me they probably wont get them anymore. The "Hidden reef" store in Philadelphia has been closed down due to a fire which also sold octopus daily. The Co-Op seafood market which iv been in contact with is not having any luck either...octo's arent local and lately, weather hasent permitted them to fish out in the ocean...only in the channels.

I also visited ChinaTown going in Philadelphia a few days ago which has numerous fish market stores with live animals in tanks...even restaurants, but hardly any of them speak english so I have no clue if they get in octo's during the winter or if they even have them in stock. From what iv seen, most of them had live frog buckets, eels, scorpion fish, salmon and various other types of fish live. None of them had live octopus. On top of all that...almost all online cephalopod resource websites who used to sell them daily do not anymore because they have been out of stock mostly due to OctoPets being down. Lol, it's been a frustrating year so far cuz everything has let me down all the sudden.

People are finding octopuses but most recently have been ordered and shipped, with the exception of those available in the San Francisco Bay area.

Nancy

That Pet Place is one big warehouse of a store: when you called I'm surprised that they didn't direct you to the fish people.

Dan

Well I called them again and a women told me they don't sell them, but she directed me to the fish place after I asked and they told me they dont have them in stock at the moment. They should be getting some in like 2 weeks or so...and they generally get them in every few weeks depending on how good their selling.

Has anyone purchased a Briarius from the guy on ebay yet? Interested to see how he was shipped and if this is a good source.

He has small octos for sale all the time.

I bought one from him.
Came packed "Ok" and very much alive and kicking.
My only complaint is that the bag he used was kinda small. But it was sealed. Not rubber banded but actually sealed.
He threw in some extra crabs to. Meatwad promtly at one of my snails but the crabs were happy.
Meatwad is going strong and the only defect to note is that he has 7 legs.
But Life in the big ocean is rough sometimes.
He came as advertised. Size was about spot on. Meatwad was about a Hair bigger then 1/2 inch but not much.
If I had my other tank up and going I would have bought the one he has now :)

Aquatic Connections:

Iv emailed this place...it was mentioned on here, but im comfirming that they do indeed have octopus in stock and usually on a regular basis. Their located in Florida and offer "atlantic octopus" as listed, but is described as a Caribbean octopus...im guessing it's just a Vulgaris living in tropical waters. They sell for 60 bucks for sizes from 2 to 6 inches.

http://www.aquacon.com/cephalopods.html

It must be the season for collectors in Indonesia to work the reef flats and come up with A. aculeatus. Several have appeared in the shipments into the Bay Area in the past couple of days. I just watched as an LRS in Berkeley unpacked four, large, healthy animals. If you want a heardy, day active animal that has incredible displays (this is one of the bipedal species), I would think that now would be a good time to check out your LRS. These animals won't live more than four or five months given their size, but I find them one of the most interesting octopus we have studied. Also, in contrast to mimics and wunderpus, I have no concerns about this species being threatened (except possibly by habitat loss). They are common in Indonesia and northern Australia and probably in other areas of region.

If you want to see what they look like, search the photo album for "aculeatus) where I have posted several images.

Roy

how large do aculeatus get, could they be kept in a 55gallon or are they a larger species like the vulgaris?

oh and by the way if anyone is intrested, their is currently a briareus avialable on ebay, i would take it but my aquirium hasent circulated yet.

A. aculeatus get to a mantle size of around 5 cm and an arm span of about 30 cm. We keep our experimental animals in 15-20 gal systems. They would be fine in anything from 30 gal up. We have kept many in the lab and have had no escapes.

Roy

Is there a collecting season for this species? Do you think they'll be available for a few more months?

Nancy

do you think they would be available for about 4-5 months? and do you happen to know where i could perchase one?

Tif

Roy's comments seem consistent with the fact that I just got an aculeatus from the Bay Area. I must confess that as of yet it's not particularly day active; since it's in a room with windows I have only partial control over the lighting, and it doesn't come out until 7 pm or later. Mine is perhaps also not a full grown adult, as its mantle is only 3 cm or so at present.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZdanac305QQssP ageNameZMERCQ5fVICQ5fReBayQ5fPr4Q5fPcNQ5 fQ5fSI

2X 1Small Octopus briareus ,head is 1/2 inch!!
20.00 Buy out
this is where i got meatwad
Guy is not bad to deal with. packs the animals ok and will replace animals that die in shipping.
if your ready for and octo hes got them
Meatwad comes out all the time during the "day" meaning i turn the lights on.
I Just had to bribe him
evertime I turn the lights on I put a food item in the tank
hes getting used to that :)

Nancy,

From field observations in Indonesia and Australia, they breed year round. I suspect the availability depends more on weather (particularly winds). They are usually found in very shallow water. If there is much wave and wind action, they are difficult to spot. When it is calm, they are much easier to collect.

Roy

is their an internet site were we could find one?

toms has 7 octos for sale 30 bucks each dont know if anyones interested...

who is "toms"^^^^?? im very interested for my other tank!!!

tom's caribbean..seem like reputable guys to me. has anyone else bought from these guys?

i just emailed them to see if i could get more details

For anyone living in NW Georgia the is a little tiny octo for sale in the fish store.Don't know what kind it is,they sold me mine as a dwarf but I don't think she is.This one is about the size of a quarter all spread out.Its very cute.

tom's got back with me and said it would be 40 bux for shipping so the total would be 70 bux.... imo this is well worth any octo cause i luv em but what do you guys think??? are they a credible supplier??? any input would be great!

Yes they are. I heard about them from other people and this is a quote from James Wood's "The cephalopodpage.com":

"He has a great reputation with friends of The Cephalopod Page for giving good and friendly service, and O. briareus makes a good pet."

I contacted him already about a Vulgaris and he sent me the same photos. I would buy from him if I wanted a briareus instead.

Anyone in the Baltimore area that's looking for an octo should talk to Exotic Aquatics on Joppa Rd. I just bought what I think is a vugaris from them last night. He's active and feeding and seems to be in good shape. The cost was $75.

I just called www.tropicaloceanreef.com (I found them on Google ads for marine fish). They have octopus, small-med caribbean (in stock now), blue ring (yes -he warned me), and pacific (don't know species). They are checking for me on Vulgaris, but I wanted to tell everyone that they did have the smaller species that everyone seems to be looking for. They guy seemed nice to deal with and called me back with information promptly.

e-mail at sales@tropicaloceanreef.com or 772 562 3450

Anyone in the Baltimore area that's looking for an octo should talk to Exotic Aquatics on Joppa Rd. I just bought what I think is a vugaris from them last night. He's active and feeding and seems to be in good shape. The cost was $75.

Do you have any photos? What size is it? That is what I have searching the internet for! :notworth:

Anyone in the Baltimore area that's looking for an octo should talk to Exotic Aquatics on Joppa Rd.

I just checked and they do not ship fish, so only if you are in the area.

Anyone in the Baltimore area that's looking for an octo should talk to Exotic Aquatics on Joppa Rd. I just bought what I think is a vugaris from them last night. He's active and feeding and seems to be in good shape. The cost was $75.

Just called them. The guy said the last octopus was sold to you and they have yet to get another one. It works the same with all other stores iv called...so he said they dont get them in much.

you should check back with them from time to time I've seen them in there about every 4-6 weeks. I'm sure they could probably special order one if they had a deposit.

the fish store i used to work at a few months back could get GPO's at any time...... but i guess not too many people have a tank for an octo that size.... they were about 120 bux i beleive..... Pugh's Petcenter & Aquarium is the name of the store and its located in hagerstown maryland if anybody is near it and wants to check it out

I just called www.tropicaloceanreef.com (I found them on Google ads for marine fish). They have octopus, small-med caribbean (in stock now), blue ring (yes -he warned me), and pacific (don't know species). They are checking for me on Vulgaris, but I wanted to tell everyone that they did have the smaller species that everyone seems to be looking for. They guy seemed nice to deal with and called me back with information promptly.

e-mail at sales@tropicaloceanreef.com or 772 562 3450

I just got a email from Patrick and he is ordering 4 Octopus Vulgaris (1 is mine). He also has smaller species available.

I know someone else was looking for Vulgaris too, but can't remember.

i emailed them a week ago and one also is mine ^^^^

www.newalameda.com has a single dwarf octo in stock and is willing to ship. If you are interested, you'll have to give them a call.

Just a reminder....That Fish Place/That Pet Place will place you on a request list and call when they receive an octopus. Their species Id is not the greatist but there are some knowledgable enough that can identyfy what they get in. Eureka came from here.

Carol

www.divertom.com has 11 octopus in stock.

Small Octo for sale at www.tropicaloceanreef.com This photo is from thier site.
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Hello all,

Just wanted you to know that tank bred bimacs are listed on Marine Depots site.

so their back in stock?!?

:D

Tiffany

how big do octopus joubini get??

UnderwaterExotics is selling Octopus Joubini for 109.99

http://underwaterexotics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=JO&Category_Code=M5

By the photograph, it doesn't look like a Joubini but I could be wrong. Looks more like a Vulgaris.

I'd love to know how big Joubini gets too because im getting one from Tom. Im praying that it isn't a dwarf species that only grows to a few centimeters.

^ EDIT:

Thank god...I asked Tom if I was getting Joubini or Briareus and he confirmed that Briareus has been shipped. Otherwise I would have been dissapointed because Joubini is an atlantic Pygmy octopus and according to ceph base, it grows to only 9 cm. (3.5 inch). Since thats adult size, I would've been shipped an adult ready to die or something way too small for the tank I currently have running with no critter cage.

don't expect a joubini (pygmy) expect a briareus. medium size octopus.

I purchased an octopus from saltwaterfish.com which arrived Wed. He is doing fine. Only discription for octopus were that they are from the caribbean. He arrived larger than expected and has been eating frozen krill. Here is a link to a video I took of him this morning.

http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/goodwin9/?action=view&current=Crush1.flv

If anyone can help me with a specific name for this variety of this Octopus, your information would be appreciated!

if anyone knows where to find a VULGARIS let me know

ATTENTION.....lol, just incase anyone has ordered from "MarineDepotLive" I just checked their site and they are currently NOT selling Octopus Bimaculoides, their selling "Bimaculatus" which is a different species that grows a lot larger. According to CephBase, they can reach a mantle length of 20 cm. (8 inches)
Their skin colors are usually always mottled according to Cephalopod Behavior which I own. They might need a larger tank. Bimaculoides grows to a 14 cm. mantle length (5.5 inches)

ATTENTION.....lol, just incase anyone has ordered from "MarineDepotLive" I just checked their site and they are currently NOT selling Octopus Bimaculoides, their selling "Bimaculatus" which is a different species that grows a lot larger. According to CephBase, they can reach a mantle length of 20 cm. (8 inches)
Their skin colors are usually always mottled according to Cephalopod Behavior which I own. They might need a larger tank. Bimaculoides grows to a 14 cm. mantle length (5.5 inches)

I'm not trying to pick on you, but I've heard this before and am skeptical of the diagnostic utility of size and skin patterns in this case.

Here's an excerpt from Forsythe & Hanlon, 1988. Behavior, body patterning and reproductive biology of Octopus bimaculoides from California. Malacologia, 29(1): 41-55.

"These species are nearly indistuingishable from a morphological standpoint, and for over 60 years they were thought to be a single species (O. bimaculatus). The existence of two species was determined finally by (1) egg size and mode of life of the hatchlings (O. bimaculoides produces eggs 10 to 17 mm long and benthic hatchlings; O. bimaculatus produces eggs 2 to 4 mm long and planktonic hatchlings), and (2) the characteristic mesozoan parasites found in the kidneys of adults (Pickford & McConnaughey, 1949).

I've heard it said many times that O. bimaculatus grow larger than O. bimaculoides, but you don't need to dig too deep in the scientific literature to find big 'loides. Cephbase cites the World Guide, which is a compilation work that's often nit-picked.

I understand that the references I'm basing this on are older, but they're still extensive and (quite literally) specific population and life history studies. Unless someone can point me to a newer study showing that maximum size is diagnostic; I will remain skeptical that any of us hobbyists (or Marine Depot) can differentiate between the two species before egg-laying.

Dan

Ok, thanX for pointing that out. I just understand that different species need different sized tanks based on the size of the octopus, but if these two species are almost identically the same phsyically, then no one needs to worry. However, it's still neat to point out that MarineDepot is giving out Bimaculatus because it's still a different species which I don't recall anyone on here owning and if no one hasent on here yet, it could be interesting to see more differences incase anyone did order like behaviors.

Ok, thanX for pointing that out. I just understand that different species need different sized tanks based on the size of the octopus, but if these two species are almost identically the same phsyically, then no one needs to worry. However, it's still neat to point out that MarineDepot is giving out Bimaculatus because it's still a different species which I don't recall anyone on here owning and if no one hasent on here yet, it could be interesting to see more differences incase anyone did order like behaviors.

Thanks for understanding--sometimes I'm too direct and come across as rude. You don't seem to mind :)

I would very much like it if someone orders from MD because then we could find out once and for all what they're selling (assuming we get a female, that is). On the other hand, if the two species are as similar as my scant literature review suggests, then it no longer matters which we get. If biologists couldn't tell the difference for 50 years, why should we? :lol:

Dan

Thanks for understanding--sometimes I'm too direct and come across as rude. You don't seem to mind :)

I would very much like it if someone orders from MD because then we could find out once and for all what they're selling (assuming we get a female, that is). On the other hand, if the two species are as similar as my scant literature review suggests, then it no longer matters which we get. If biologists couldn't tell the difference for 50 years, why should we? :lol:

Dan

Yea exactly. I forgot to point that out as well...I think Bimaculoides used to be soled on MarineDepot a few months ago or so, but are now selling Bimaculatus telling us that Loides is no longer in stock again and Latus might be the new species currently soled. Hopefully it turns out this way because again, it would be interesting to notice further differences if any. Im also waiting for big LFS companies that ship to have Vulgaris regularly in stock.

According to Adventure Aquarium, when I went behind the scenes to see their second young male GPO, the biologist told me GPO's are extrememly easy to get in Vendors and usually cost a few hundred, which is cheap for them. I asked him about Vulgaris, but he told me their harder to get and usually they get them on a certain season but sometimes aren't exhibital because they hide a lot. It surprises me that their harder to get because Japan fishes hundreds of them every week and many of them are eaten around the world. Mabye if Vendors started getting Vulgaris from Japan, and the mediterranean, they would be more available for captivity but I don't know much about Vendoring so I can't talk much. The point is, is that Vulgaris is more widely common than GPO.

Let's try to keep this thread focused on where we can purchase octopuses.

A lot of octos being shipped are not the species listed on the website when you order - I would be especially careful about those listed as bimacs right now. Those TONMO.com members ordering briareus seem to be getting that species and the little octos are doing well.

Good news is that marinebio_guy is raising bimacs and has some young ones right now. He has experience raising cephs and should be a good source for us. This means that tank bred bimacs will be available soon.

If you're using the web to find and purchase an octopus, be sure to search on the name of the supplier and learn what experience other octo owners have had when ordering from that source. (You'll find SEARCH in the blue bar when reading the forums.)

Nancy

I have a few juv. left and should have some more hatch soon. Basicly right now will be selling just to Tonmo people. The price is $40 plus shipping which would be ~$40-$60 depending on where you live. I am in the L.A. area so I could have people pick them up if they wanted to.

I have a few juv. left and should have some more hatch soon. Basicly right now will be selling just to Tonmo people. The price is $40 plus shipping which would be ~$40-$60 depending on where you live. I am in the L.A. area so I could have people pick them up if they wanted to.

Do you think you'll be having this mini business up for a while or mabye a year or is this temporary? And the octo's that you are giving out now are hatchlings or like a few week old ones that are reasonable size to actually see?

I will be trying to keep some in stock until at least next summer. The ones I have right now are about an inch arm tip to arm tip.

How do you know when your bimac is an adult? We got one lastnight, but he died. We thought we had everything right--even the petstores said we were doing everything right. Could he of just been old?

The PH is at 8.4, Temp 76.5, No nitrates, No amonia.

How do you know when your bimac is an adult? We got one lastnight, but he died. We thought we had everything right--even the petstores said we were doing everything right. Could he of just been old?

The PH is at 8.4, Temp 76.5, No nitrates, No amonia.

Its hard to tell if an octopus is an adult other than size. If he died right after you got him most likely it was not old age. There are too many factors that could cause the death. First, I would not trust what pet stores say, usually they have little or no experiance with cephs, and cephs are a lot different than fish. What where your nitrites? Where did it come from? How long did you acclimate it? What was the water parameters of the water is was shipped in? When was the last time it ate? These are all questions you should ask yourself and the person who sent it to you. Most places do not ship octopus correctly, which is the main cause of death.

Ya, when octopuses are shipped, their usually exposed to the most stressful conditions during a period of time. It could have just died from stress of shipping. How was your salinity, copper, alkalinity and oxygen levels? Usually the first 48 hours of keeping one from shipping are the hardest hours to keep it alive. Everything should be delt with precisely and with care.

Good luck w/ a next one you get.

has anyone ordered an octopus from fish supply?
im thinking about ordering one from this link:
http://store.fishsupplyunderwater.com/ccb00-11902.html

Fish Supply does not ship any of its stock anymore. You have to buy it in the store. They were a good source for some years, but they have a new manager now and things are different. You'll find a statement about not shipping on their web site.

Nancy

has anyone ordered an octopus from fish supply?
im thinking about ordering one from this link:
http://store.fishsupplyunderwater.com/ccb00-11902.html

This is from there website:

Live stock will no longer be shipped out and will be geared only toward walk in customers.

We welcome walk-in customers open to close at our store everyday!

So unless you live close i dont think they are shipping anymore.:cry:

oh well thats to bad

I have over 100 six week old bimacs available now untill they are all gone or grown up and die. I'm in the southwest corner of Oregon, on the California border, on the coast. I'm raising the bimacs as a senior project. If you are interested, let me know.

- Zyan

I have over 100 six week old bimacs available now untill they are all gone or grown up and die. I'm in the southwest corner of Oregon, on the California border, on the coast. I'm raising the bimacs as a senior project. If you are interested, let me know.

- Zyan

Well thats good to hear how much will you be charging ?How will you be shipping them with oxygen?What is there size right now?

Marinebio_guy is raising some as well. I will be receiving one from him in october but im sure there are many other people out there looking:grin:

Well thats good to hear how much will you be charging ?How will you be shipping them with oxygen?What is there size right now?

Marinebio_guy is raising some as well. I will be receiving one from him in october but im sure there are many other people out there looking:grin:

Yea, i'd like to know too. But their size right now should be approx. 5 inches or so if their exactly 6 weeks old or less.

If anyone lives in Canada, namely the toronto ontario region, most Big Al's will order you an octo. There was one in Oakville who said that he knows where to get tank raised Bimacs (at least thats what he said). Which is amazing, because then you can have him his whole life without the "dead in 8 weeks" syndrome of an adult octo.

Mat

If anyone lives in Canada, namely the toronto ontario region, most Big Al's will order you an octo. There was one in Oakville who said that he knows where to get tank raised Bimacs (at least thats what he said). Which is amazing, because then you can have him his whole life without the "dead in 8 weeks" syndrome of an adult octo.

Hmm, really? I don't live in Canada, but my boyfriend lives in Sarnia, and I go up there and visit him every other month or so.. I have no idea how I'd get an octopus back home with me though, don't think they'd allow anything with more than two legs on the train... :hmm: So that's probably a dead end.

I have over 100 six week old bimacs available now untill they are all gone or grown up and die. I'm in the southwest corner of Oregon, on the California border, on the coast. I'm raising the bimacs as a senior project. If you are interested, let me know.

- Zyan

I'm very interested--how old are the bimacs now, how big, and what will you charge for a pair and shipping?

Thanks, christine

I am also very interested in purchasing a bimac from you. Could you please send me the details of cost and shipping? I have an aquarium set up and just waiting for it's new owner. Also I would like to hear more about the project that you were working on.

lol , I dont know if my message went though , but i have tried contacting this guy that says he has them and I cant get a reply

I have tried too, and no responce. Oh well.

Try PMing marinebio_guy - he had a few bimacs left, don't know what the status is now.

Nancy

I have a few juv. left and should have some more hatch soon. Basicly right now will be selling just to Tonmo people. The price is $40 plus shipping which would be ~$40-$60 depending on where you live. I am in the L.A. area so I could have people pick them up if they wanted to.
I am in north san diego county:sagrin: Escondido....you are just north of me, where are you at ??san juan cap? irvine? i can meet you out on the 5 or ??:tongue:

Everyone,
Currently I just have eggs that should be hatching in a few weeks but will not be able to ship them out until maybe the end of next month. I will keep you posted on any changes.

Thanks

Thanks Marine bio Guy! Good to hear from you.

Christine

I want a bimac really bad, but the largest empty tank I have is 40 gallons...

FYI - Jess and I are heading to Lancastor tonight. Have 3 octopuses on hold at That Fish Place so I can see what they are and take my pick if they are not what I already have. I'll report in once we get out there.:smile:

Good deal!

Pick me up one, and ship it down! Lol...

One is a dwarf...and the other looks like a very scared vulgaris. He's coming home with us tomorrow!:smile: This is why I never believe what they tell me they are. I have gotten many different types, identified as Common Brown Octopus.

One is a dwarf...and the other looks like a very scared vulgaris. He's coming home with us tomorrow!:smile: This is why I never believe what they tell me they are. I have gotten many different types, identified as Common Brown Octopus.

Omg, how big is the Vulgaris they have currently? Lancaster seems to be pretty consistent w/ octo's. Once I get a larger tank completely cycled and running, im definately going to go to them as a first resort since they seem to like getting Vulgaris'. But of course, you never know what you can get.

Wait on marinebio_guy i have one of his last batch right now he is doing great if you want a bimac!As soon as my camera is back up i will post some pictures.He is great at packing and shipping i was so scared he wasnt going to make the trip to Texas but as soon as he got here i could see him moving around i am very happy with the bimac i got from him:smile: I have had him for a couple weeks now and he is eating frozen and live.Thanks again Marinebio_guy

Dutch

Wait on marinebio_guy i have one of his last batch right now he is doing great if you want a bimac!As soon as my camera is back up i will post some pictures.He is great at packing and shipping i was so scared he wasnt going to make the trip to Texas but as soon as he got here i could see him moving around i am very happy with the bimac i got from him:smile: I have had him for a couple weeks now and he is eating frozen and live.Thanks again Marinebio_guy

Dutch

yeup thats what im gonna do as well :wink: im gonna wait till the babies are ready to go then my son and i will drive up and p/u a bimac from marine_bioguy

my tank is ready to go right now but what i will do is add some sea grass from the tidepools......yeah i know i know dont rip on me cuz im pickin up some grass from a tide pool but there isnt any where else where i can safely get the grass and besides it will have a nice population of pods to boost the food supply for my(our)my son's and I new freind

Seagrasses require intensly bright lights. Lights that octopuses do not like. I would get some caulerpa, or other macros if you really want some plant life.

the idea is to have the seagrass planted from the bottom to the top and curving at the top of the water line as to create a shadow effect as you would see occur naturaly in the ocean and besides i have an awsome l/r structure with LOTS of caves and shadowed openings, so im hoping light intensity shouldnt be to much of an issue, despite the fact that im running 1 150 watt mh, with 4 26000 mcd blue leds for the nite cycle, and i really recommend using the blue led's there is so much more activity goin on at nite that we cannot see and it gives the tank an intersting blue shimmer as well:mrgreen:

Well, with those lights, it's good you have moonlights, because at night is the only time you'll ever see your octo. Water temperature will also be a big issue.

yeah i hear ya! this will be our fourth 3 bimacs so i have some exp. with ceph's( bimac's in particular) there has been lots of threads within this issue, and ceph's are nocturnal in nature anyway.... correct? so i am trying to acheive overall tank health and with pc's (power compacts ) i havent had very good results but when i use mh i have waaay better coloration in coral less algae blooms great "shimmer" (more natural ) etc. so the choice is clear I have some pix of the tank but i cant get them to upload................Colin,.......NANCY ??