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Oktoputeao
Dec 14th, 2005, 05:49am
I'm sure that Blue ring octopus has venom ( tetrodotoxin), but have any other ceph, venom?
Cheers
Carles

Feelers
Dec 14th, 2005, 06:44am
The bluering is special in that it has a different venom to most octos - in that it can kill you. Most(if not all other?) octos have a toxin know as cephalotoxin (spelling?), that knocks out prey when they "spit" it at them.
Cephalotoxin sounds rather generic to me, and it wouldn't surprise me if there are a few variations in the chemical/s used between species.

One reason I think this is because O. Rubescens seems to have a very strong bite, even when compared to much larger octopuses.

ob
Dec 14th, 2005, 07:25am
You may wish to check out Boyle's paper at

http://www.cephbase.utmb.edu/refdb/pdf/7298.pdf

It's relatively recent and gives a nice series of refs

cthulhu77
Dec 14th, 2005, 07:46am
Good stuff there ! To answer you quickly, yes, all octos have venom of some sort, differing in toxicity not only by species, but also by location. The dwarf varieties seem to have a tendency to have more potent venoms than the larger types, but most are not able to inflict a fatal bite on a human being.

Arrogantsob81
Dec 14th, 2005, 01:58pm
so i take it i should not try to pet my bluering??.. useful 411 thanks guys =)

cthulhu77
Dec 14th, 2005, 07:28pm
Nope. Go right ahead. :smile:

DHyslop
Dec 14th, 2005, 07:45pm
No more Mr. Nice Greg!

Jean
Dec 14th, 2005, 08:18pm
Good stuff there ! To answer you quickly, yes, all octos have venom of some sort, differing in toxicity not only by species, but also by location. The dwarf varieties seem to have a tendency to have more potent venoms than the larger types, but most are not able to inflict a fatal bite on a human being.


BUT it is possible to be allergic to the bite..........anyone with a seafood allergy should be extra careful!

J

monty
Dec 14th, 2005, 09:35pm
if you search forums on "blue ring" you'll get a lot more info, too, by the way... the toxin details have been discussed on a number of threads.:bluering:

Oktoputeao
Dec 15th, 2005, 04:58am
Thanks guys, about tetrodotoxin I know enought, I'm medicine student.
But thanks for the link and for answer the first question I have did.
Cheers
Carles