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squall7733
Nov 2nd, 2005, 12:05pm
I've asked this question a few times but havnt really gotten an answer for it, mostly over looked among the plethora of my questions lol.

I've seen many photos with octos in tanks with other fish. Which leads me to wonder if its possible to safely keep any fish in the same tank. Does anyone have any experience with this? Any tips on which types of fish he wouldnt bother?

tjohnson
Nov 2nd, 2005, 01:01pm
You have to be very careful, I would check out each fish you liked, look to see that the fish IS reef safe, if its not, then it will likely mess with the octo, also, make sure that the fish is not small enougth that the octo can easily eat it (the size of your octo or bigger) And lastly dont keep any fish that will be missed if they disappear, you can keep more fish while the octo is small, however as it grows it will be more likely to catch and eat the fish. If you have another tank to transfer the fish to, that would be ideal.

squall7733
Nov 2nd, 2005, 01:49pm
I dont think I have the heart to sacrifice even a little damselfish, ive grown quite accustom to the little guys as I cycle each tank I start with them, usualy the same damsels too!

In your avatar I see a octo with a fish. How did that work out? just out of curiousity, what type of fish?

Nancy
Nov 2nd, 2005, 01:55pm
With all those tanks, there's not a place to tuck them in?

Nancy

squall7733
Nov 2nd, 2005, 02:02pm
At the moment they are seperated into a few different tanks. I could cycle them with my tank but I dont feel like putting them through the stress with this speed cycling thing I'm doing. That and my octo tank will have plenty of rocks, my damsels have endured many transfers from tank to tank, they have had lots of practice EVADING THE NET. I comend them for it, its acctualy fun sometimes, but unless I took every single rock out I probly would never catch them :p I dont want to see them get eaten either ; ; I know its natural but I'm a softie :p On the other hand fidler crabs just scream EAT ME.

cthulhu77
Nov 2nd, 2005, 02:08pm
It really is dependant on the attitude of the individual octopus...some really like to eat fish, some don't...unfortunately, the only way to find out is to experiment.

greg

i got crabs
Nov 2nd, 2005, 09:15pm
randall has been liveing quite well with a cleaner shrimp for some time now. he dosent eaven seem to notice the shrimp. however any crab even the ones wich rival him in size are gone in seconds. however id always be concerned with fish especially damsells. dems fish are nasty.

tjohnson
Nov 2nd, 2005, 09:26pm
The fish in my icon are Yellow damsels, I used 3 of them to cycle the tank, and just left them in there, they gave Ollie a good time, she would always try to catch them but never could, that is until one day I took out all the LR and the next thing I noticed within a 30 minute time period all the fish were gone. So it went good for a long time, but ended.

squall7733
Nov 3rd, 2005, 01:39am
I hadnt really though about the damsels attacking the octo, just never occured to me before always thought it would be the other way around. I'll have alot of live rock in there maybe one day I will get brave and put 4-5 damsels in when my octo is on a large fidler diet.

Thanks for all your help everyone :)

DHyslop
Nov 3rd, 2005, 07:32am
I hadnt really though about the damsels attacking the octo, just never occured to me before always thought it would be the other way around.

My damsel attacked me once!

Dan

Scouse
Nov 3rd, 2005, 08:46am
I reckon a blue whale or a basking shark would be safe

cthulhu77
Nov 3rd, 2005, 09:05am
True...even a good size Right whale can be o.k.

Or, maybe a Mola ?

greg

tjohnson
Nov 3rd, 2005, 01:33pm
Yea, If you want to use Damsels, Use Green/Blue Cromis, they are way more chill, and will not try to attack your octo.

cthulhu77
Nov 3rd, 2005, 06:57pm
You could also use Sloane's Viperfish...of course, you would have to pressurize the tank...

BOOM !!!

Seriously though, all of the damsels and their kin will pick and peck at octos...clowns won't, but end up being food in short order.
Some keepers have had luck with seahorses, but that is something I have never tried.

greg

Jean
Nov 3rd, 2005, 07:07pm
You could also use Sloane's Viperfish...of course, you would have to pressurize the tank...

BOOM !!!

Seriously though, all of the damsels and their kin will pick and peck at octos...clowns won't, but end up being food in short order.
Some keepers have had luck with seahorses, but that is something I have never tried.

greg

We've kept Wrasses in with our Octopus, but that's in a very large tank (3600L) with lot's of hidey holes. Typically we dont' keep fish with octis. I wouldn't recommend keeping seahorses with an octopus. Seahorses are darn pernickety and don't do well if they are harrassed or in the presence of large amounts of waste (which octis produce!).

Cheers

J

DHyslop
Nov 3rd, 2005, 08:32pm
I wouldn't recommend keeping seahorses with an octopus. Seahorses are darn pernickety and don't do well if they are harrassed or in the presence of large amounts of waste (which octis produce!).

Plus, if we're talking captive-bred seahorses, it's not an inexpensive experiment if it doesn't work out!

Dan

cthulhu77
Nov 4th, 2005, 08:16am
Yep, we had this discussion a year or so ago...can't remember who had tried it...was it Joel ????

squall7733
Nov 6th, 2005, 10:15am
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn... Wrasses.. Do you think a small species of a cleaner wrasse might work out?

I dont think I'm going to try with any damsels, I think I could work up the courage and except the fact they might become dinner, but I'm not willing to let them attack my octo.

But I still havnt given up hope ! :p I dont think a whale would fit in my tank however.

Jean
Nov 9th, 2005, 07:56pm
Not sure about cleaners....to be honest we put in Spotted Wrasses because the octopus is big enough not to be pestered by them and the wrasses are pugnacious enough not to be harrassed by the octopus....but it's quite a balancing act!

J

squall7733
Nov 10th, 2005, 12:29pm
Maybe worth exploring... Although I'd have to find something that can deal with the cold temps.