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skood
Sep 29th, 2005, 05:40am
Hi everyone

Apologies if this is old hat, but does anyone know if this Mesonychoteuthis photo is for real? It's featured in Mark Carwardine's forthcoming book, "Extreme Nature", but I don't know anything more about it.

Link: http://uncarved.org/blog/?p=708

CapnNemo
Sep 29th, 2005, 05:52am
Hallo Fellow UK Cephfan.

Sorry mate, it's not, it was built for the Animal Face Off series. However, it's pretty accurate as far as we know, Kat and Dr Steve advised on the anatomy. There was a thread quite recently about this. Somewhere, I'll see if I can find it for you.

Here, try this http://www.tonmo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4815

skood
Sep 29th, 2005, 06:04am
Thanks, Nemo :wink:

I thought I'd seen that goggling eye somewhere before!

Graeme
Sep 29th, 2005, 07:01am
:shock: That's quite a freaky pic though. I'm just wondering about that eye... is there not a species of squid that has one huge eys and one tiny eye? They both serve purpose of usage at different water depths... or something...
Graeme- Sounding a bit like a fool now!

skood
Sep 29th, 2005, 07:43am
Hi Graeme :cyclops:

D'you mean Histioteuthis meleagroteuthis?

Link: http://tolweb.org/tree?group=Histioteuthis%20meleagroteuth is

chrono_war01
Sep 29th, 2005, 07:54am
Wacky experimentalists The Residents and Lovecraft’s “blind idiot god” Cthulhu all combined in one easy-to-evacuate-your-bowels-with-fear package.



Riiight. "Blind idiot god" What?

CapnNemo
Sep 29th, 2005, 08:02am
Riiight. "Blind idiot god" What?

From the fiction works of H P Lovecraft, although the blind, idiot god is not Cthulhu, but Azathoth.

Cthulhu is the chap with the octopod head and wings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azathoth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu

chrono_war01
Sep 29th, 2005, 08:14am
oh...*is enlighted* But in the article, did the author mix it up or did I mix up and thought he mixed up?

Graeme
Sep 29th, 2005, 08:33am
Hi Graeme :cyclops:

D'you mean Histioteuthis meleagroteuthis?

Link: http://tolweb.org/tree?group=Histioteuthis%20meleagroteuth is

Yeah, I think that's it, although I don't remember it being so stocky-looking.

From the fiction works of H P Lovecraft, although the blind, idiot god is not Cthulhu, but Azathoth.

Cthulhu is the chap with the octopod head and wings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azathoth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu

Yay, another "Cthulhu Cultist"!! Yeah, dude that's kinda what I thought. Azathoth is described as being blind and imbicelic, right? Just basically a huge nuclear mass. Basically Cthulhu looks like my Avatar, because it IS Cthulhu; my plush Cthulhu :grin:

Graeme- Servitor to the Great Old One

Graeme
Sep 29th, 2005, 08:35am
oh...*is enlighted* But in the article, did the author mix it up or did I mix up and thought he mixed up?

No, you're totally right. He got it all mixed up.

See!? Most kinds of trouble start of as fun!

Graeme- by the way, is it wrong to double-post here? I'm just wondering 'cuse some forums look down on it.

erich orser
Sep 29th, 2005, 08:44am
If you actually have something to share with us all, and you DO - believe me, you DO, Mr. Cthulhu Avatar - double-posts are fine. None of us make a habit of it or anything like that, but don't worry.

Have you visited www.eatenbysquid.com?

I do this little show, you see...

Fujisawas Sake
Sep 29th, 2005, 11:02am
"Blind Idiot God"? :mad: :cthulhu:

HERESY!

I should go there and slap the writer with all the power of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (http://www.venganza.org/).

Ia ia, Cthulhu ftagn!

Fujisawas Sake
Sep 29th, 2005, 11:06am
If you actually have something to share with us all, and you DO - believe me, you DO, Mr. Cthulhu Avatar - double-posts are fine. None of us make a habit of it or anything like that, but don't worry.
I do this little show, you see...

Eric,

You redefine the term "badass". :band:

John

Tintenfisch
Sep 29th, 2005, 05:57pm
is there not a species of squid that has one huge eys and one tiny eye? They both serve purpose of usage at different water depths... or something...

There is, in fact, a whole family - the Histioteuthidae (http://tolweb.org/tree?group=Histioteuthidae) - with asymmetric eyes. Maybe one of the other species looks more similar to the one you were thinking of? And there are several references on possible functions of the different eyes (just pulled these up on CephBase (www.cephbase.org)):

Young, R.E. 1975. Function of the dimorphic eyes in the midwater squid Histioteuthis dofleini. Pacific Science 29(2): 211-218.

Wentworth, S.L.; Muntz, W.R.A. 1989. Asymmetries in the sense organs and central nervous system of the squid Histioteuthis. Journal of Zoology, London. 219: 607-619.

Bitjukova Y.E.; Zuev, G.V. 1975. Evolution of squids of the family Histioteuthidae in relation to peculiarities of vision. Malacological Review. 11: 129-130.

Graeme
Sep 30th, 2005, 06:39am
"Blind Idiot God"? :mad: :cthulhu:

HERESY!

I should go there and slap the writer with all the power of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (http://www.venganza.org/).

Ia ia, Cthulhu ftagn!

YARGH! it's wossisname! The eyeball!!! The eyeball covered in tentacles!!
No, I'm NOT raving! Seriously, tis another Mythos god

Ah, quite a handy site is Cephbase. Not always totally helpful regarding questions, but good taxonomic info there! I prefer this place, you get questions and queries answered properly!

Graeme- I'm not kissing anus here, I'm just sayin' it like it is.