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tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 10:14am
Stand by... :goofysca:

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 01:52pm
Wow, the forum seems to have been updated without major disaster! That's astounding!

I'll be doing some configurations along the way, but please post any problems or questions here. Thanks-

Tony

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 04:39pm
You'll notice some nice little enhancements here and there with this new upgrade -- nothing too significant, but it does set the stage for more enhancements going forward (i.e., the resurrection of the Tank Owner Database).

One of the most noticeable changes right now may be the fact that we now base unread messages on messages that you actually clicked on and read, as opposed to it being cookie-based. This is a bit more server-intensive, but I think we can handle it. After 10 days, if you haven't read a note the assumption will be that you don't want to read it, and it will fall into the read bucket.

Steve O'Shea
Sep 26th, 2005, 04:50pm
....... just one wee thing; the smilies don't work in the posts Tony.

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 04:56pm
:mad: :hmm: :squidwar:

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 04:56pm
Worked there?

sorseress
Sep 26th, 2005, 04:59pm
I can't make them work either.

monty
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:02pm
I can't make them work either.
I just put :boohoo: in another post... it seems to work ok for me. :grin:

it does seem to think a lot of threads I've read "have unread posts" however. Otherwise, it looks great!

Steve O'Shea
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:04pm
Nope, not for me

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:12pm
Hmm... maybe only Webmasters and Supporters can use smilies... :heee:

:neutral: I'm on it...

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:18pm
:nautiloi:

Appreciate any help troubleshooting here. If you click on "Go Advanced" or the "Post Reply" button when viewing a thread, you should navigate to the post creation page. You should see a drop-down menu which offers all smilies in a list. (it's between the A and paperclip icons on the top row of editing tools).

If you don't see that, or you can't click it -- let me know -- what's happening? You click and there's no response? What browser are you using? (IE or FireFox)?

Thanks-

monty
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:24pm
:nautiloi:

Appreciate any help troubleshooting here. If you click on "Go Advanced" or the "Post Reply" button when viewing a thread, you should navigate to the post creation page. You should see a drop-down menu which offers all smilies in a list. (it's between the A and paperclip icons on the top row of editing tools).

If you don't see that, or you can't click it -- let me know -- what's happening? You click and there's no response? What browser are you using? (IE or FireFox)?

Thanks-

In firefox on linux, I see the pull-down menu, and I can both insert via that and also just type :cthulhu: (colon-cthulhu-colon) and both seem to work...:twocents:

corw314
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:24pm
Hmmmm.... seems to be a little slow. Do we now have spell check? I see we do!!! Not bad Tony!!! So far so good! :wink:

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:33pm
Hmmmm.... seems to be a little slow. Do we now have spell check? I see we do!!! Not bad Tony!!! So far so good! :wink:
Slow? Really? Hmm...

Ooh, spell check, I didn't notice that.

Wow, I just purposefully spelled "notice" as "notic", and tried it -- it requires a download, but once installed it's pretty snazzy.

monty
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:40pm
Slow? Really? Hmm...

Ooh, spell check, I didn't notice that.

Wow, I just purposefully spelled "notice" as "notic", and tried it -- it requires a download, but once installed it's pretty snazzy.

how do you check for missspelllings? I didn't notice anything different in "preview post"-- do I have to submit this to catch my above error?

(edit: no, it let missspelllings go through...)

monty
Sep 26th, 2005, 05:42pm
I noticed there is now a "disable smilies in text" checkbox below the edit window; maybe it's accidentally activated for the smiley-impaired?

Mikey
Sep 26th, 2005, 06:04pm
Seems to work for me Tony?? :lol:

Cephkid
Sep 26th, 2005, 06:14pm
I am not able to open the smilies "drop-down".

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 06:41pm
ok, i've re-added the right-column smilies list which is available when you "go advanced" (as before). does that help?

um...
Sep 26th, 2005, 06:50pm
:bonk: :thumbsup::grin:

I like this.

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 06:56pm
I noticed there is now a "disable smilies in text" checkbox below the edit window; maybe it's accidentally activated for the smiley-impaired?
You may be onto something with that, but not sure how that'd be pre-selected... In any event... hoping it works now!

If not, for anyone experiencing this let me know and I'll research further. I am not able to recreate.

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 07:04pm
Also... if you are logged in, you won't see the promotional area on the TONMO.com homepage. When you're logged out, it'll be there. Hopefully helps us get to the content we're after (latest posts) without as much scrolling.

sorseress
Sep 26th, 2005, 07:28pm
testing....testing.....
Nope, still won't work. I even tried to copy and paste the little suckers, and that wouldn't work either.

sorseress
Sep 26th, 2005, 07:30pm
tes....ting again :smile:

sorseress
Sep 26th, 2005, 07:31pm
Ok, now the More line works too, and it didn't before.

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 07:35pm
Bizarre. If you could post exact details about what you click and what happens I can better troubleshoot this. For example, does your interface look like the attached screenshot?

http://www.tonmo.com/post.jpg

sorseress
Sep 26th, 2005, 07:37pm
I'm looking for that spell check you were reffering to. If it doesn't catch that, well.....just previewed and it didn't show up an obvious error. How does it work?

corw314
Sep 26th, 2005, 07:53pm
Hmmmmmmm......Not sur if the spel chek worcs.......hmmmmmm So....you really need to go and download it first I'm assuming.....:confused: Smilies work!!!!

Cephkid
Sep 26th, 2005, 08:07pm
:grin: well...I can TYPE them, but when I click on them, nothing happens...

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 08:09pm
I'm looking for that spell check you were reffering to. If it doesn't catch that, well.....just previewed and it didn't show up an obvious error. How does it work?
In my screenshot above, the spellcheck is right above the winking smiley -- it's the icon with the ABC and the checkmark under it.

When you click it, you should get a pop-up. I think there's an issue with javascript. Let me investigate a bit.

Cephkid
Sep 26th, 2005, 08:13pm
Oh, BTW, I forgot how to get to the tank list...:lol:

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 08:29pm
Oh, BTW, I forgot how to get to the tank list...:lol:
:smile: It's been offline since January -- you couldn't have missed it that much! It's still on my to-do list, though...

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 08:53pm
The spell-check and smiley issue may in fact be a browser caching issue. Try using Ctrl-F5 (hold down the Control key while hitting the F5 key) while you're on an edit post page. It... just... might... work.

um...
Sep 26th, 2005, 08:57pm
The spell-check is not available in Firefox. I think it's a purely IE frill. :mad:

This is a quick edit. That is so cool!

tonmo
Sep 26th, 2005, 09:01pm
Yeah, the quick edits are impressive! It's using a technology called AJAX, where you can send/receive data on a page without reloading it. Lots of enhancements for Moderator tools in this regard.

sorseress
Sep 26th, 2005, 09:22pm
Problem explained! I'm on Firefox. :hmm:

Clem
Sep 26th, 2005, 10:01pm
Hello Tony,

What is a Yahoo! Slurp Spider, and is it afraid of fire?

Cheers,
Clem

Tintenfisch
Sep 26th, 2005, 10:11pm
Hmm... I can make the smileys work by typing in the text for them, e.g. colon-twisted-colon for :twisted: (the most important one :wink:), but not by clicking on the icons to the right of the compose-message box. Wait, Ctrl-F5 worked, now the smileys are normal... is this a one-time-fixes-all trick or do I need to do it every time I reply to something?

Steve O'Shea
Sep 26th, 2005, 10:49pm
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Ja, it works for me too:grin:

sorseress
Sep 26th, 2005, 11:17pm
:mrgreen: Seems to work for me too.

sorseress
Sep 26th, 2005, 11:18pm
:smile:

sorseress
Sep 26th, 2005, 11:22pm
It will work if it's during the same computer session. It may not work once you've shut down for the night . I'll check that out tomorrow.:smile:

tonmo
Sep 27th, 2005, 07:57am
Hmm... I can make the smileys work by typing in the text for them, e.g. colon-twisted-colon for :twisted: (the most important one :wink:), but not by clicking on the icons to the right of the compose-message box. Wait, Ctrl-F5 worked, now the smileys are normal... is this a one-time-fixes-all trick or do I need to do it every time I reply to something?
It's a one-time fix -- you had the "old" TONMO.com code cached on your computer -- Ctrl-F5 pulled down the latest -- the old is gone forevermore. 8-)

CapnNemo
Sep 27th, 2005, 08:40am
I've had noooo trouble whatsoever, but then I do usually use a Mac, hee hee.

What is a 'Slurp Spider' (check the Active Users bit)? I've never seen them before. Were they exposed at low tide after Hurricane Rita? Will there be a Discovery documentary on 'Slurp Spiders: Killers of the deep'?

chrono_war01
Sep 27th, 2005, 10:16am
nothing wrong with my computer...just a bit faster.

GPO87
Sep 27th, 2005, 11:39am
:confused: What seems to be the problem? My smiles work. By the way, I like the new drop down menu.

Cephkid
Sep 27th, 2005, 04:34pm
:sun: :mrgreen: :grin: :razz: 8-) :shock:

Cephkid
Sep 27th, 2005, 04:35pm
:cry: :evil: :twisted: :roll: :rainbow:

Cephkid
Sep 27th, 2005, 04:36pm
:oops: ...sorry. Couldn't help m'self. I love Ctrl+F5...

tonmo
Sep 27th, 2005, 07:18pm
Hello Tony,

What is a Yahoo! Slurp Spider, and is it afraid of fire?

Cheers,
Clem
Important distinction:

Yahoo! Slurp Spider is our friend, along with the Google Spider. They crawl our site and help bring like-minded ceph fans together on TONMO.com, but displaying pertinent search results on the respective search engines.

The Wolf Spiders in my basement are NOT our friends. Undetermined whether they are afraid of fire, but if they have any sense of self-awareness they are afraid of my shoe.

Jean
Sep 27th, 2005, 07:44pm
The Wolf Spiders in my basement are NOT our friends. Undetermined whether they are afraid of fire, but if they have any sense of self-awareness they are afraid of my shoe.

You need a Miniature Pinscher! ............caught Diablo chowing down on spiders in the back garden :yuck: I do feed him HONEST!!

J

tonmo
Sep 27th, 2005, 08:24pm
My dog Harvey did indeed catch one -- didn't eat it, but stomped on it, then flipped his head back to toss it in the air a couple of times. Pretty amusing spectacle.

Jean
Sep 27th, 2005, 10:20pm
My dog Harvey did indeed catch one -- didn't eat it, but stomped on it, then flipped his head back to toss it in the air a couple of times. Pretty amusing spectacle.

:lol:

Diablo's a ratter and if it moves it's prey and prey is to be EATEN! Which is unfortunate when the prey in question is your toes!

Seamus on the other hand is a Cocker Spaniel and prefers dinner served up on a silver tray! And spiders? ewwwwwwwww:yuck:

J

Tintenfisch
Sep 27th, 2005, 10:21pm
Unrelated to spiders...

How come some threads show up as 'not updated since last visit but still containing unread posts' if they didn't resgister under this heading on your last visit?

Jean
Sep 27th, 2005, 10:25pm
Weird aint it? I think maybe there is some form of temporal displacement happening!

J

chrono_war01
Sep 27th, 2005, 10:36pm
temporal displacement happening? :confused:

Jean
Sep 28th, 2005, 12:02am
temporal displacement happening? :confused:

Time travel CW......I'm afraid I caught an episode of Dr Who the other night:oops:

J

Cephkid
Sep 28th, 2005, 12:15am
Time travel CW......I'm afraid I caught an episode of Dr Who the other night:oops:

J

It happens all the time, heres the proof: "when you go to claim insurance for something, you find that it is precisely what is not covered in your coverage/insurance policy." --Douglas Adams, The Salmon Of Doubt...:shock:

Steve O'Shea
Sep 28th, 2005, 01:15am
.... do I detect a little waffling and off-topicness going on? Naughty naughty!

tonmo
Sep 28th, 2005, 06:11am
Unrelated to spiders...

How come some threads show up as 'not updated since last visit but still containing unread posts' if they didn't resgister under this heading on your last visit?
Hmm... I haven't observed the latter part of your question myself. The idea is supposed to be that it retains posts not read within the past 10 days under that heading, and it would remain there until a) you have read it or b) 10 days passed. That list should only be populated when notes above that heading (new unread posts) were dismissed on your last visit. I'll keep an eye on it...

tonmo
Sep 28th, 2005, 06:13am
.... do I detect a little waffling and off-topicness going on? Naughty naughty!
:razz: As ever, within reason some off-topic replies to threads are OK -- we can go off on tangents from time to time. What's not OK are seed threads (outside of Supporter's Forum) that have nothing to do with cephs. There are some exceptions to this, too, under The Octopus' Den (for community notes and significant current events in the news).

Jean
Sep 28th, 2005, 07:21pm
errrrr why do I keep getting logged off when I'm perusing new posts? or replying to threads I don't take That long to gather my thoughts....scattered as they may be!!!

J

tonmo
Sep 28th, 2005, 07:53pm
Hmm, haven't heard or experienced that one... might need to delete any tonmo.com cookies?

Jean
Sep 28th, 2005, 08:59pm
Hmm, haven't heard or experienced that one... might need to delete any tonmo.com cookies?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH its done it again.............will start checking cookies!

J

msamaki
Oct 3rd, 2005, 08:45pm
errr...i can't access profiles anymore.

is it just me?

edit: never mind. minor glitch.

Jean
Oct 3rd, 2005, 09:49pm
msamaki, I love that Douglas Adams quote in your sig!!!

J

tonmo
Oct 8th, 2005, 10:34pm
Unrelated to spiders... How come some threads show up as 'not updated since last visit but still containing unread posts' if they didn't resgister under this heading on your last visit?
Hmm... I haven't observed the latter part of your question myself. The idea is supposed to be that it retains posts not read within the past 10 days under that heading, and it would remain there until a) you have read it or b) 10 days passed. That list should only be populated when notes above that heading (new unread posts) were dismissed on your last visit. I'll keep an eye on it...
Has this gotten any better? Honestly I haven't much figured this out yet. I think, after a while, the unread posts go away even though I haven't read them within the past 10 days (I think).

I'm curious what others think? If you've noticed the difference, is it better or worse than before? I can change the setting so that the last-read logic is less "smart", i.e., it can go back to simply telling you what's new since you last logged in... and if you didn't read posts the last time you were here, tough luck, they're gone now. What's your preference?

um...
Oct 8th, 2005, 10:37pm
I prefer it the way it is right now.

:twocents:

tonmo
Oct 9th, 2005, 10:06am
Minor upgrade required, standby...

tonmo
Oct 9th, 2005, 10:30am
done. we're now running the very latest version, and I'm ready to start hacking back the Tank Owners database.

DHyslop
Oct 9th, 2005, 11:16am
Yay! The database is within sight. For the record, I too like the new way the unread posts work, you can save some for later!

Dan

Nancy
Oct 9th, 2005, 12:09pm
The tank owners database is something I've really missed. I used to look up information on each person before replying on Ceph Care so that I'd know what size tank and other information. This helped in replying because I can't always remember who has what.

So happy to hear this, Tony!

Nancy

tonmo
Oct 9th, 2005, 12:16pm
The tank owners database is something I've really missed. I used to look up information on each person before replying on Ceph Care so that I'd know what size tank and other information. This helped in replying because I can't always remember who has what.

So happy to hear this, Tony!

Nancy
Cool. Note this is testing the limits of my technical ability, but I intend to bring it back up. Also note that there's about a 95% chance that the database will start from scratch (I won't be able to resurrect the old data).

Melissa
Oct 9th, 2005, 07:31pm
For the record, I too like the new way the unread posts work, you can save some for later!

Dan, I think this is my favorite aspect of the upgraded site. Nice job, Tony!

Melissa

tonmo
Oct 9th, 2005, 07:58pm
Ok -- unread post settings stay as-is! Thanks all -

tonmo
Oct 10th, 2005, 07:03am
I've made some changes to the front page -- it's now three columns, allowing better placement for important content and additional real estate for future additions (such as the Tank Owner Database, if I can figure that out... spent hours on it yesterday... it's a bear :hmm:...

DHyslop
Oct 10th, 2005, 12:40pm
It certainly has a different look. It feels like a newspaper.

Dan

corw314
Oct 18th, 2005, 06:22am
Morning Tony!

Couple issues....When I log out I have to log out twice to have my user name disapear....Uploaded one pic and now I am getting a message I don't have permission in both supporters and Journals and Photos...Also, I had a hard time locating Journals & Photos if there is not a current post....

Other than these, looks good! Lots of info!!!!

:)

tonmo
Oct 18th, 2005, 06:28am
Morning Tony!

Couple issues....When I log out I have to log out twice to have my user name disapear....Uploaded one pic and now I am getting a message I don't have permission in both supporters and Journals and Photos...Also, I had a hard time locating Journals & Photos if there is not a current post....

Other than these, looks good! Lots of info!!!!

:)
Thanks for the input! I will look into each of these in the coming days...