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incysor
May 11th, 2005, 12:52pm
I found this guy at one of the LFS, and didn't feel like waiting another 2-3 months until my fishsupply order might get filled.

Anyone have an idea what species 'Houdini' might be?

He earned his name by crawling out of the acclimation pitcher to go exploring across the hardwood floors. :hmm:

I took a couple quick shots of him in a shallow tupperware bowl to see if anyone would recognize what type of octo he is.

B

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/incysor/May05/P1010007sm.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/incysor/May05/P1010008sm.jpg

n82rboy
May 11th, 2005, 01:15pm
:confused: Sorry.. can't help you with an ID... great looking little guy/girl tho.. Congrats! What's he eating?
-Paul

Colin
May 11th, 2005, 01:22pm
Looks like a lovely young briareus :)

Nice catch, but they really do try their best to escape! watch those lids...

take it you're in the States? (acclimation pitcher)

incysor
May 11th, 2005, 04:01pm
Looks like a lovely young briareus :)

Nice catch, but they really do try their best to escape! watch those lids...

take it you're in the States? (acclimation pitcher)

:wink:
Yep. I just adjusted my profile. I'm in Texas.

Thanks for the ID. Now I can do a bit more research.

The tank is fairly well octo proofed from when we had our bimac squishy. We lost him, (no eggs), last year, and wanted to replace him immediately, but knew a move was in our future so we decided to wait until we did that and got everything upgraded and settled back in before ordering another one. By the time we did that octopets had their snafu, and everyone is backordered 4-6 months it appears. I figured I'd go ahead with this guy since it's been nearly six weeks since I tried to order a bi-mac and was told 4-6 weeks, and just saw that people are still being told 4-6 weeks. Hopefully when we inevitably lose this guy everyone will be back up and running and I can get another bimac.

ceph
May 11th, 2005, 04:26pm
Long legs and aqua color do look like an O. briarieus (Caribbean reef Octopus). However, the "green eye brows" are not something I've seen before although I've mostly worked with hatchlings and adults of this species, not juveniles. O. briarieus has a sister species on the other side of the Panama Canal - any idea where he/she is from?

In any case, O. briarieus are quite the escape artists; you are not the first to name one Houdini.

James

Nancy
May 11th, 2005, 04:45pm
Welcome back! What a lovely young octopus! Such beautiful colors.

I'll add Houdini to our list of Tonmo octos and assume for now that he or she is a briareus.

Looking forward to more pics of Houdini in the tank.

Nancy

incysor
May 11th, 2005, 05:42pm
Long legs and aqua color do look like an O. briarieus (Caribbean reef Octopus). However, the "green eye brows" are not something I've seen before although I've mostly worked with hatchlings and adults of this species, not juveniles. O. briarieus has a sister species on the other side of the Panama Canal - any idea where he/she is from?

In any case, O. briarieus are quite the escape artists; you are not the first to name one Houdini.

James

I was being lazy this morning and thought maybe someone would recognize it on sight. After Colin ID'd it I looked it up on cephbase, and there are quite a few in the briareus image library that look pretty similar.

http://www.cephbase.utmb.edu/imgdb/imgdb.cfm

I didn't figure I was being particularly original naming it houdini, but I figured if I named it after any of these guys I'd have to explain it over and over and over. :lol:

http://www.evenden-jones.co.uk/escapology/Links.asp

I've got no idea where it's from. The owner of the shop I got it from wasn't in, and his wife couldn't tell me where it was ordered from.
What's the name of sister species of o. briareus?

B

corw314
May 12th, 2005, 06:38am
He's really beautiful! Best of luck with him!!!! I love the first shot. You can see he already has plans for another escape!!!

Carol

incysor
May 12th, 2005, 01:29pm
Well, we didn't see him all last night. He found a good hole to hide in for sure.

I caught him with the tanks dark this morning though. And took several pics. Only one really came out. Here's the orig, resized, and the crop from the orig.

B

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/incysor/May05/P1010014CCsm.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/incysor/May05/P1010014CCcp.jpg

rj10018576
May 12th, 2005, 01:44pm
if u could find out at least where the owner ordered it from or give me the shop's phone number it would be very appreciated.

incysor
May 12th, 2005, 02:12pm
Why? Are you in Houston?

B

bmatson
May 12th, 2005, 02:34pm
great looking octo. i love the picturess

rj10018576
May 12th, 2005, 03:57pm
no but my cousin does and i would also like to know his supplier so maybe i can get my lfs to order from there.

p.s. thats a visually stunning octo u got there

incysor
May 12th, 2005, 05:31pm
B B Tropical Fish & Pet, 9226 FM 1960 Rd W, Houston, TX 281-469-3756

I have no idea if they'll share the info or not, but I wish you luck. 8-)

B

corw314
May 13th, 2005, 05:22am
Great pic! What kind of camera? Any update today?

Carol

erich orser
May 13th, 2005, 08:28am
That is a stunning octopus. Absolutely gorgeous.

Nancy
May 13th, 2005, 12:34pm
If it is a briareus, it will be nocturnal - although I have seen some that have adjusted to being out during the day.

Nancy

incysor
May 13th, 2005, 02:06pm
No new pics. I looked around in the tank about 4am this morning and managed to see a leg in a hole in one of the rocks in the center of the tank, but haven't seen him out since yesterday morning early when I took the last pic.

B

incysor
May 13th, 2005, 02:11pm
Great pic! What kind of camera? Any update today?

Carol

The camera is an Olympus C-5050 zoom.

It's about 2yrs old. It's been a fantastic learning camera, as it's got more features than most point-and-shoot cameras. When I manage to get the money together to get a dSLR, I'll have a much better understanding of what things are than I had before.

No real updates. I couldn't find the little guy at all yesterday evening. I got up about 4am and managed to see a leg in one of the rocks near the center of the tank, but that was it. It's about what I expected.

When I got my first bimac, I didn't see the little one for nearly 3wks after I put it in the tank.

B

Nancy
May 13th, 2005, 05:00pm
You might try looking at night using a flashlight with a red lens.

I agree with Carol, the pics are good!

Nancy

incysor
May 13th, 2005, 05:18pm
Thanks. I'll post more as I get them.

B

incysor
May 18th, 2005, 03:57pm
I found the octo dead in the tank yesterday morning. :cry:

I'd just checked my water the day before, and all the params were at 0. Just to double check I took a sample to one of the LFS I trust and had them test it. They said there was a very small amount of ammonia, but no nitrates, nitrites, or phosphates. My tank runs between 74 and 76 degrees.

It didn't seem large enough to be fully grown. Maybe it was just shipping stress?

B

Colin
May 18th, 2005, 04:19pm
sorry to read the bad news! :(

I think that it may be worth checking for copper in this case...

I havnt lost an octo to shipping stress after more than a few days of receiving it and in both cases they didnt eat.

They are just so sensitive sometimes

again sorry about the octo

regards
colin

corw314
May 18th, 2005, 08:34pm
I'm sorry to hear! Hope you will try again at some point. It is deffinately worth the effort!

Carol

tonmo
May 18th, 2005, 08:51pm
I found the octo dead in the tank yesterday morning. :cry:

I'd just checked my water the day before, and all the params were at 0. Just to double check I took a sample to one of the LFS I trust and had them test it. They said there was a very small amount of ammonia, but no nitrates, nitrites, or phosphates. My tank runs between 74 and 76 degrees.

It didn't seem large enough to be fully grown. Maybe it was just shipping stress?

B
I'm very sorry to hear. That was an incredible octopus you had. Amazing pictures -- thank you for sharing them. I'm with Carol -- hang in there!

Squidman
May 18th, 2005, 10:24pm
oi. Seems only fitting that such a wonderful animal is so fragile, and has such a short life.

n82rboy
May 18th, 2005, 10:37pm
Aww.. man.. sorry for your loss.. my condolences.
I really appreciated your photos..
So it goes..
take it easy,
-Paul

Nancy
May 19th, 2005, 12:39am
Very sorry about your loss - such a pretty little octo.
:angelpus: RIP

Nancy

monty
May 19th, 2005, 05:34pm
:sad:

erich orser
May 19th, 2005, 07:38pm
Very sorry for your loss. That was an extraordinarily beautiful creature.

incysor
Jun 22nd, 2005, 05:21pm
I found this little guy at one of the LFS on Monday night.
He acclimated well and pounced on a crab almost immediately. You can see it holding the shell in the last pic. So far it's stayed in the open most of the time. It's been out every morning, and during the evenings with the lights on it's been hanging out on the cleaning magnet, and the few places on the rock where I don't have anemones. I'm going to have to do some serious maintenance this weekend and remove all the aiptasia, and tulip anemones so that he can move around easier as he gets bigger.

B

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/incysor/June05/P1010030cpsm.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/incysor/June05/P1010033CCcpsm.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/incysor/June05/P1010042CCcpsm.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/incysor/June05/P1010038CCsm.jpg

incysor
Jun 22nd, 2005, 05:21pm
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/incysor/June05/P1010056cpsm.jpg

Nancy
Jun 22nd, 2005, 08:50pm
Nice little octopus!

Have a look at the Bimac Care Sheet and compare the ring - is it an unbroken chain like the bimac in the photo? If so, you probably have a bimac.

Bimac Care Sheet (http://www.tonmo.com/cephcare/BimacCareSheet.php)

Nancy

incysor
Jun 22nd, 2005, 11:28pm
It's definitely a bimac, I just don't know which species.

My first octo was a bimac as well. They're great pets.

B

Nancy
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:31am
When we use the term bimac, we are referring to a species:
O.bimaculoides. So that's what you have!

Do you have a name for it yet, so I can enter you in our TONMO list of octopuses?

Nancy

chrono_war01
Jun 23rd, 2005, 12:27pm
What's the name of your new pet? We can't just call it "The Bimac" or "It" forever, can we?

incysor
Jun 23rd, 2005, 07:32pm
When we use the term bimac, we are referring to a species:
O.bimaculoides. So that's what you have!

Do you have a name for it yet, so I can enter you in our TONMO list of octopuses?

Nancy

Well since there's o. bimaculoides, and o. bimaculatus, that's what I meant when I said I don't know which species it is.
The first one I had I ordered from fishsupply.com, so I knew it was o. bimaculoides. Since this one is wild-caught, it's less clear. Unfortunately the LFS I got them from is a very weirdly run mom and pop shop where the 3 sons and the parents often don't know who orders what, so they couldn't tell me where they'd gotten this guy from.

I've got a rule about not naming the critters until they've been in the tank for at least 3wks. :mrgreen:
The last one got named early cause of it's antics while trying to acclimate him. I'll be making a list of names during the next few weeks and let my wife pick out the one she likes.

B

Octomush
Jun 23rd, 2005, 07:39pm
Just wanted to say I'm sorry for your loss and... Buetiful or lovely would be an understatement in describing this majestic creature! It's AWESOME IT'S GORGEOUS!!! IT'S THE MOST BUETIFUL OCTO I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!! That will be all... :shock: