View Full Version : Which protein skimmer do you have, and do you recommend it?


Nancy
Mar 2nd, 2005, 11:39pm
Hi all,

Here's the question:
"Which protein skimmer do you have, and do you recommend it?"

Any comments about your skimmer would be appreciated. Also indicate whether it's hang on or is in your sump.

I notice that A. Calfo, who has a new book out on Reef Invertebrates, recommends the Aqua C Remora as a hang on protein skimmer. I've read others recommending this one, too.

So, what do have to say about your skimmers?

Nancy

dawnchihuahua
Mar 3rd, 2005, 12:22am
I have a Visi-Jet skimmer. It is an "inside the tank" skimmer. It came in quite a few pieces, and it was very difficult to put together. Once I got it working it skims fine.

DHyslop
Mar 3rd, 2005, 12:17pm
I have a Pro Clear 150. Its an in-sump skimmer, comes with the pump, and is about 24" tall. Has a drain hose on the collection cup so you can put a milk jug next to it to catch excess. You can raise or lower the water output pipe to adjust the level inside the skimmer. It cost about $150.

I recommend it, however I haven't used any other skimmer. My one complaint is the venturi has a chinsy little plastic valve at the end that is difficult to use precisely.

Dan

cthulhu77
Mar 4th, 2005, 09:48am
Since I bought all of these tools for the shop, I have to validate them by building almost all of my stuff here...my wife would kill me if I bought a skimmer !
greg

corw314
Mar 4th, 2005, 08:06pm
I have 2 Seaclones. I know they have a bad rap at times, and may need some manual adjustments, but mine seem to skim just fine and the company is excellent at replacing problem parts. Mine hang on the back of the tanks.

Carol

AK-Dave
Mar 4th, 2005, 08:42pm
I have an Aqua-C Remora. I purchased it last week based on a recommendation by Anthony Calfo. It is pretty much plug and play. I purchased the one with the Maxi-Jet 1200. It is very quiet and pulls a lot of stuff out of the water. I would recommend getting the skimmer box with it if you get one. The drain for the collection cup would be a nice extra if you want to spend a bit more. It seems like a good skimmer, and I have heard lots of people say it is the best HOB skimmer out there.

:twocents: -Dave

Colin
Mar 6th, 2005, 06:20am
I have two skimmers...

First is an AquaMedic 1000 multi. and the other is an AquaMedic 5000 baby. Although its called 'the baby' dont let that fool you as its 4 foot tall and hold about 5 gals of water.

Both of these are great. The 5000 is currently running 4 tanks with a total volume of 200 odd gals. The 1000 is currenly skimming the attic (well, it'll be used again soon)

The trick to these skimmers is to clean the neck and inner cup weekly to get the best skimmate.

clownfish
Apr 26th, 2005, 05:01pm
Since I bought all of these tools for the shop, I have to validate them by building almost all of my stuff here...my wife would kill me if I bought a skimmer !
greg

realy how do you do that ?? sounds cool

Neogonodactylus
Apr 26th, 2005, 05:35pm
I have seven Remoras running in my lab and generally they do a good job with few problems. My only complaint is the o-ring used to adjust the collection box. I have never had one last more than three or four months. They always crack and break. You would think for that amount of money they could come up with an o-ring or some other adjustment system that would last a bit longer.

Thales
Apr 26th, 2005, 08:09pm
I like Euro Reef skimmers in sumps. I currently run a CS6-2 on my reef system and the same on my 120 gallon cuttle system. I am very happy with the ER skimmers, but I was given a My Reef MR-1 beckett skimmer that I am going to use just to see how it works.
When I was keeping bandensis in smaller tanks I use a Remora and a Bak Pak. I never could get the Remora to produce skimmate so I don't like them too much! :D I liked the Bak Pak, but I used an airstone modification to get it producing decent amounts of skimmmate.

Robin
May 20th, 2005, 06:31am
-Visi-Jet skimmer only costs $35, whereas other ones are more around $150.... is it only because it is smaller??? and when it says "can hold up to 100gallons"...does that mean that it can contain 100 gallons at once, or that it is made for tanks up to 100g ???

Jon123
May 20th, 2005, 03:00pm
it means upto 100g tanks, altho most of the manufacturer recommendations are abnormally high, divide by 4 for a more reasonable estimate, altho an undersized skimmer is better than no skimmer at all!

and my all time fav is the aquamedic turbofloator 1000 multi, good skimmer, reasonable price, hang-on or insump, easy to install, etc etc, altho i use them on my fish/reefs not octo tank

Jon

Robin
May 22nd, 2005, 12:10pm
£200.....!!! is that what you call "reasonable price" ???

Jon123
May 22nd, 2005, 01:35pm
As far as skimmers go...yes. I dont know what size tank you have, but the turbofloator is perfect for 50-100g tanks (altho they claim upto 350g). Where I am, this skimmer is $350CAD with pump, many skimmers which would do a similar job run for well over $500CAD and you need to buy a $200CAD pump!

If you have a tank <75g I would recommend the cpr backpack line, they are about half the cost of the turbofloator and also do an excellent job. The Seaclone is generally regarded as an inferior product, and I would never buy another, but I dont see why it wouldnt do a decent job on <40g tanks and at less than 1/4 the cost of the turbofloator.

Jon

Robin
May 23rd, 2005, 06:48am
ok...i dont have a tank yet....but i m really planning on gettin a 30g-50g tank...
what do you think about the Visi-Jet for a 50g tank??
and what else is needed? a pump? a overflowthing (wat s that?)

Jon123
May 23rd, 2005, 12:52pm
ive never used the visi-jet, but for as low as 30g most any skimmer will do, lower end ones usually come with everything you need, and if not, a gph pump rating is probably on the box, i never use the bubble trap thingies, but it most likely comes with the skimmer too.

Jon

Scouse
May 24th, 2005, 05:48am
I have a Deltec MC500 since this was the best I could get for the limited space in the sump, but now they have the MC600. This has a more powerful pump.

both brilliant drop in, plug and play, does a fine job for me although no octo yet but when its been needed its kicked in an pulled loads of poo out the tank :grin:

nini
Jun 27th, 2005, 07:30pm
do some skimmers come w/ a pump?

nini
Jun 27th, 2005, 07:44pm
also how does this skimmer sound for a 55 gallon?
Motorized 150 Protein Skimmer (Aqua Clear Aquatics)

PSLee
Nov 30th, 2005, 10:29pm
If you are on a budget, why don't you buy a cheap knockoff skimmer. Then replace the pump that came with the cheap skimmer with a better, well known brand pump. This trick allows me to spend more $$$ on livestock =)
Check out this site for some cheap knockoffs, www.aquatraders.com

Arrogantsob81
Dec 6th, 2005, 12:04am
Was using a cpr bakpack. on my 50 gallon. no skimmer on on my new ten gallon just LR and water changes..

ashleybysea
Jan 24th, 2006, 09:33pm
I am using 2 Coralife Super Skimmer 3004's good for upto 220G I have them both on my 600G tank and work ver well, one trick is to keep the neck of the collection cup clean, I try to clean it once everyday. Very easy to setup, they are a good price.:yinyang:

cuttlegirl
May 28th, 2006, 05:04pm
Here's one I don't recommend... The Odyssea 75... Of course, because it is a holiday weekend, something has to go wrong with the tank. I was emptying the collection cup when I heard the sound of water pouring onto the floor behind the tank. When I removed the collection cup, I had cracked the chamber. Not the valve where it joins to the main chamber, but the chamber itself. I tried to silicone it, but it still leaked. So I raced down to the local chain pet store and found a SeaClone 150, hooked it up in about 3 minutes and plugged it in.

The Odyssea came with no instructions (I never figured out if the LFS took them out or if there were never any instructions), so it took me about 45 minutes to piece it together... And I have had protein skimmers in the past, so I already knew the basic concept...

DHyslop
May 28th, 2006, 05:24pm
Seaclone, ick. I would have let it run without a skimmer for a few days ;)

Dan

cuttlegirl
May 28th, 2006, 05:25pm
I felt like I couldn't take a chance with baby cuttles and only a 30 gallon tank. Still waiting to upgrade to a 75 gallon or more.

oceanbound
Jul 24th, 2006, 04:33pm
i have a seaclone 150 and it works OK. but i plan to upgrade to something better before i buy the octo

invert.junkie
Oct 15th, 2006, 01:19pm
In my Cuttlefish set up @ school they are running Red Sea Berlin skimmers, that I cant get the water level high enough on to produce skimm. So i think they are terrible.
I want to upgrade to a Euro Reef or ASM or somthing of that quality soon, any tips.

On my reef setup at home I run CPR Bac pac 2R+ on a 40 that does an excellent job despite the pump noise.

The Gnome
Nov 30th, 2006, 01:31pm
Hello everyone ! :sagrin:

I have an ALS predator 2 skimmer on my 200g system. There is an Iwaki 40HD external water pump pushing the water up into the top of the skimmer, which sits to the left of my display. It's plumbed into a 5g rubbermaid tub, which in turn on the opposite side has PVC draining down into the sump via gravity. I plan to have 5 Red Mangrove saprolings in the tub that should efficently, and organically remove the nitrates from the water.
The skimmer is the only filtration I have presently, other than the obvious biological filtration from my 200lb of live rock and some chaeto. My water is always crystal clear - and my fish and corals seem very happy. My system isn't aged enough to get my bimac yet, but within 8 - 9 months, I should be ready .... I can't wait !

DrBatty
Nov 30th, 2006, 04:17pm
I run a Euroreef CS-80 [in sump] for my 55 gallon tank....it's been running for about 7 months and it's working great.
The manual it came with was great for explaining how to piece it together, but I've found Euroreefs need a lot of calibration before they start working well. I definitely recommend Euroreef though!

NRP
Jan 13th, 2007, 11:07am
I PURCHASED TWO TUNZE SKIMMERS AS MY FIRST ENDEAVOR

I WAS NOT IMPRESSED WITH ITS FLIMSY CONSTRUCTION COMPARED TO EQUAL COMPETITORS BUT YET SIMILAR PRICING

REPETIVE REPOSITIONING OF THE PUMP AND TUBING IS FRUSRTATNG REQUIRING COMPLETE BREAKDOWN OF THE UNIT
IT WAS RIDICULOUS AND THEY CLAIM IT CAN HANDLE

THERE IS NO WAY THE 9010 CAN HANDLE 264 GALLONS REGARDLESS OF THEIR TECHNOLOGY CLAIMS

ITS INCONSISTENT IN PERFORMANCE HAS BEEN ON THE MARKET ONLY ONE YEAR ALTOUGH THEY HAVE AN OLDER MODEL

BUT CHECK THIS OUT THE COMPANY INSTRUCTTS YOU TO USE THE PRODUCT FOR SEVERAL DAYS BEFORE CALLING WITH ANY CONCERNS BUT THEY DONT TELL YOU THAT IF YOU USE IT THEY WILL NOT TAKE IT BACK EVEN IF FOR SEVERAL DAYS AS INSTRUCTED BY THEM
I WAS LUCKY MY DISRIB TOOK IT BACK BEC I SPENT SEVBTHOUSAND DOLLARS IN SETTING UP A NEW REFF SYTEM BUT

I WILL NEVER EVER PURCHASE TUNZE AGAIN

I CURRENTLY HAVE TWO EUROREEFS MUCH BETTER MADE FOR MY
300 gl reef tank


BUYER BEWARE AND GET ASKIMMER THATS 50 % larger than the actual volume so you can grow with it

AprylWillis
Jan 13th, 2007, 11:34pm
We bought a cheap protein skimmer for $150 from PetCo and bought some supplies at HomeDepot and rigged it up so that it performes better than the other brand names out there. We simply got tubing, etc and took the whole protein skimmer apart. Basically, we gutted the poor thing. There is better water flow and it picks up more gunk out of the water. I think the octopus is very happy with our creation. Someday I will provide a picture of our monster.

robyn
Jan 27th, 2007, 05:02pm
I have two Red Sea Berlin skimmers on a 280 gallon recirculating system (housing between 4 and 12 Nautilus pompilius). One is excellent, the other one sucks. The good one occasionally gets blocked with salt buildup at the base of the air-intake tube, but otherwise skims brilliantly. The bad one has been cleaned, rebuilt, resealed, everything, and still barely maintains a vortex. But its probably better than nothing.

nickcoletti
Apr 1st, 2007, 11:28pm
i'm looking for a skimmer that will either hang on my tank or sit on a shelf under the tank like my fluval 404 canister filter. i have a plexi-glass top that i made custom out of a big sheet. i have an intake and outtake on my canister filter which made cutting out for the pipes easy on my top. all the skimmers i see within my range (100$-) have a outflow like a hang on cartridge filter which would make it hard to make my top "octo proof". do they make skimmers that push water into a tube that i can have lead to my tank? http://www.aquatraders.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=109 i am looking at this one because of the way i could cut around the intake/outtake... anyone own or know of this model?

dutchcourage
Apr 2nd, 2007, 02:40pm
I use the coral life superskimmer it is a great H.O.B Skimmer here is 3 days worth of skim hope this helps :smile:

nickcoletti
Apr 2nd, 2007, 08:47pm
thats one of them i was looking at..i found it for a good price on ebay but i do not have a sump and my top is sealed shut....does this have an outtake tube that i can cut around in my plexiglass or is it like a ledge with the flow of water just falling out of the skimmer?

dutchcourage
Apr 2nd, 2007, 08:52pm
It falls right out of the skimmer from a tube you can always use duct tape to seal the tank thats how mine is sealed.

cthulhu77
Apr 2nd, 2007, 09:48pm
I have one of those sitting in a box, with a tube outflow...let me know if you are interested in it, it has never been used at all (purchased back in my aquarium days).

cthulhuisgod
May 7th, 2007, 11:14pm
lookin at this skimmer for my 3o gal tall cube tank for future cuttle...

CPR Bak-Pak 2R+ Reef Ready Protein Skimmer

good choice?

if so... should i go with just a power filter or canister?

Tone1987
Aug 31st, 2007, 03:25pm
Been doing a lot of reading and comparisons between protein skimmers, it seems like everyone has mixed reviews. I have narrowed it down to three choices, what should I get? Jebo Protein skimmer, Berlin Turbo Protein Skimmers, Euroreef skimmer.

I have a 75 gallon.

Nancy
Sep 2nd, 2007, 12:34am
Well, I think you'll have to hear from someone who owns one of these skimmers - unfortunately I don't. It's a holiday weekend, so probably many people won't log on again until next week.

Look back through this thread and also the Tank Owners' Database (see sticky at the top of this forum).
You can also use the search function to search on each of your possibilities.

Nancy

Tone1987
Sep 4th, 2007, 12:18pm
Done alot more searching and talked to alot of local hardcore reefers, there opinion they really like to ocotpus brand. Its cheap for what your getting and it does an awesome job I actually got to see one in person and they run great. Thought I would throw that in for everyone.

Brock Fluharty
Nov 26th, 2007, 07:51pm
Just bought the Seaclone 100 and the Seaclone 150. $50 shipped for both. =)

I know that they aren't the best skimmers...but I really can't beat that price for ANY skimmer. I'm going to put the bigger one on my 20 gallon. Hopefully it will house an octo or two in the near future ;)

ErikHarrison
Nov 29th, 2007, 03:12pm
Octopus branded skimmers are just like Euro Reefs. For what I was told from a very knowledgeable reefer here in SA, that Euro Reef actually stole the ideas from Octopus, and they just had the financial backing to develop and manufacture them faster and at greater quantities than Octo did. I have seen them run side by side and there is not much difference.

I picked up a EuroReef RS135 for 150 dollars from a guy here in SA. Best deal that I have gotten yet!

Ben
Dec 1st, 2007, 01:01am
Ive got a Coral Life Super Skimmer, 125 gallon

At the pet store my sister and I work at we had it for sale. was around 190 i think but my sister gave me a wrong discount and the price was excellent. Might have been the putting it together at midnight but the instructions didn't too well done If I remember correctly. The part to clip onto the tank for the water intake pump didn't work out though. I have to have it jerry-rigged with string to keep it at a angle so that the skimmer will work properly. All in all if I had to get one again I most likely wouldn't pick it up.

koaea
Dec 1st, 2007, 12:11pm
I run an in-sump Euro-reef skimmer (rs-80 I think), on a 200gal tank with a catshark and it really has been a great workhorse for me. I'm very pleased with it.

13engrsapper
Jan 4th, 2008, 12:34am
Let me first qualify this stament by saying I do not work for a company that sells or manfactures skimmers. Our new marine test system uses a Tunze Master DOC series skimmer. We have used quite afew brands over the years, and I am amazed at how well this unit works. I pulls things out of the water like crazy, and I like its patent pending overflow protection. There will be some pics of it running on our system and some pics of our new octopus avalable soon. I will post them here when I get a chance.

monty
Jan 4th, 2008, 12:56am
:welcome: to TONMO! I'm sure many of us will be interested in the pictures (of the skimmer and the octopus!)

Spence24
Jan 4th, 2008, 11:58am
:welcome: 13engrsapper. I myself use an aqua c remora, I still can't get it to function perfect, water is still coming out relatively clear...maybe it just needs to run a little while longer???

craigl
Feb 27th, 2008, 11:04am
It depends on the system...For a large tank you cant beat a becket skimmer but they are LOUD so a remote filter room is a big plus when using one. For my 90 gallon i use a DAS external recirculating skimmer and the thing is awesome! it is a deltec without the price and deltec logo on it...For my 36 gallon i use a DIY skimmer and it really gets the job done but there isnt much of a bioload in the tank so i didnt need anything that powerful. For my mantis tank i use another DIY skimmer but this one is airstone driven where the other one i built is a venturi skimmer. Finally on my soon to be cuttlefish tank i use a tunze nano doc. Don't really have an opinion on it yet since i dont have any livestock in the tank and both the tank and skimmer are relatively new.

dwhatley
Feb 28th, 2008, 12:13am
Several people have recommended the Coralife skimmer for a decent low end unit. We have tried a variety ranging from $75 (various imports) to over $300 (Red Sea Berlin) and like the Coralife the best for this price range. It is quite, allows the pump to actually sit on the bottom of the sump and has a return cup to minimze bubbles AND produces the most skim.

fishkid6692
Feb 28th, 2008, 01:48am
i'm getting the delta mce600 for my 75 gallon is that good?

craigl
Feb 28th, 2008, 10:18pm
Its a great skimmer! a friend of mine was using the mce300 on a 30 gallon bare bottom reef that was mesh modded and the thing pulled some serious skim-mate! So i would have to assume the 600 is also a very good skimmer.

fishkid6692
Feb 28th, 2008, 10:23pm
ok is it plug and play or do i have to mod it?

KYClownfish
Mar 24th, 2008, 04:13pm
I am looking at the Octopus HB-300 Dual hang on back skimmer anyone know anything about this one? Also looking at Red Sea Prizm Hang-on Protein Skimmer. Anyone know which one is better?

craigl
Mar 25th, 2008, 07:58am
ok is it plug and play or do i have to mod it?
It is pretty much plug and play but it can pull out a lot more if you mesh mod it.

Inception7
Apr 11th, 2008, 11:50am
I am looking at the Octopus HB-300 Dual hang on back skimmer anyone know anything about this one? Also looking at Red Sea Prizm Hang-on Protein Skimmer. Anyone know which one is better?

How big is your tank? I would never reccomend a Red Sea Prizm...

Redoc
Apr 13th, 2008, 06:08pm
I have two Red Sea Prizm skimmers both of which work great ( once they are broken in and you figure out the adjustments ) I also have a Seaclone that I would not recommend :banghead::banghead:but after a few mods and patience with the adjustment seems to be working ok. The mod that made the difference is one I haven't seen before but worked for me seal the air intake hose to the hole in the collection cup lid so you create a small vacuum to help draw the bubbles up to the cup.

Inception7
Apr 15th, 2008, 12:05am
What size for the Red Seas? I've used Cpr, Tunze, Euro Reef, Remoras, Red Seas and the only one that I would use again would be Euro's maybe Remoras.

Faaborg
Apr 17th, 2008, 07:23pm
I am in need of advise,
I am looking at purchasing this set up:

200 Gallon Aquarium Sump Refugium wet dry filter with a Protein skimmer included- dimensions of skimmer are 4'' X 4''X 19''
Refugium light include- comes with 2X 13 watt compact 6500k bulbs

Skimmer Pump and return pump are included

Skimmer pump is a Catalina Aquarium 635 GPH (Gallons per hour) pump

Return Pump is a Catalina Aquarium 850 GPH (gallons per hour) pump

Mineral Mud included! Live natures ready to get your refugium started immediately

This will all cost about 280 (including shipping)
I only have a 80 Gallon, but I heard it was best to get more powerful filters and skimmers. Is this a rip? I am trying to set up a Bimac Aquarium? Too much? Anyone sellign there used stuff on ebay?

Thank you !!!

mosthated
Apr 17th, 2008, 08:42pm
(edit: miss understood your post)
That seems like a reasonable deal.. i wouldnt use a wetdry on a saltwater tank..
what kind of skimmer does it come with?
If you ever upgrade your tank size, you will already have a nice size sump to go along with it..

daddysquoc
Apr 17th, 2008, 09:19pm
really? i have a wet-dry, and everythings always gone fine

Redoc
Apr 18th, 2008, 01:37am
What size for the Red Seas? I've used Cpr, Tunze, Euro Reef, Remoras, Red Seas and the only one that I would use again would be Euro's maybe Remoras.

I think the Red Seas say they are good for 100gal but I have them on a 65 and 55 gal and they seem to get the job done. Can't go wrong for $39 used but they definitely take a little patience to get the adjustment right and I'm sure their are much better skimmers available but on a budget they work.

Faaborg
Apr 19th, 2008, 10:33am
Thanks guys ! :)

cuttlechris
May 4th, 2008, 02:20am
I'm looking at the nautilus te and the coralife super. I have a 75 gal disp. & 22 gal sump. any recommendations or advice?

Animal Mother
May 4th, 2008, 09:05am
I'm happy with my coralife super skimmer. Easy to clean, easy to set up. I modified the collection cup so that it has a drain tube on it in case it overflows (usually due to not adjusting it properly).

dwhatley
May 10th, 2008, 11:56pm
We are trying to design plumbing for a recirculating skimmer (trying this kind on a "new" tank after ya'll discussed it awhile back). The tank has two distinct sides, joined by two tubes so we want overflow on both sides. We want to try feeding the skimmer with water from at least one of the overflows (prefer not to join them but that is still an option) and don't quite know where to put flow control valves to ensure enough flow to the skimmer. Even with a single overflow line, we don't know enough about paths of least resistence to be sure there is enough diverted to the skimmer so recommendations for plumbing are solicited (begged, desired, pleaded).

typenn187
Jul 5th, 2008, 12:08pm
i will throw my 2 cents here, i currently run a msx200, soon to have the pin wheel! i have used the reef octo 150, great skimmer for the $. i have a remora... its ok, not great. the super skimmers are not too bad, but are better in an in-simp set up because they do have the tendency to over flow. berlin skimmers are just about garbage, they do work, but so does the sea clown. we run a berlin at the shop and i have to do a vinager bath about ebery 6 months to keep it form getting a ton of salt build up, and the pumps are very weak for how big they are. i would put one on a 55 or smaller. reef octopus skimmer are the way to go for the money, and i love my msx skimmer, a little more but worth it!

Paradox
Jul 5th, 2008, 10:22pm
We are trying to design plumbing for a recirculating skimmer (trying this kind on a "new" tank after ya'll discussed it awhile back). The tank has two distinct sides, joined by two tubes so we want overflow on both sides. We want to try feeding the skimmer with water from at least one of the overflows (prefer not to join them but that is still an option) and don't quite know where to put flow control valves to ensure enough flow to the skimmer. Even with a single overflow line, we don't know enough about paths of least resistence to be sure there is enough diverted to the skimmer so recommendations for plumbing are solicited (begged, desired, pleaded).


Oops, sorry I missed this post! I tend to only click on cuttlefish related things -)

You probably already found the answer, but if not, I would actually have both overflows connect to a larger diameter pipe and then connect to a T. The center connector of the T will go the skimmer and the other end of the T should goto a valve. (Use a gate valve for they have the most precise control) After the Gate valve, it should go to the sump.

If you have a large enough skimmer, you can have the gate valve completely closed. I personally dont have a Huge flow rate in this area for I also have the pipe on my return tapped twice. One to feed my baby cuttle section which drains back into the sump, and one to feed 2 daisy chainged reactors that use GFO and Carbon. Im guessing my flow rate is around 7-8 hundred gph on my 150. Most of the circulation in the tank is from the two Vortechs.

Let me know if you need more detailed descriptions or a picture of my frankensteined setup :razz:.

dwhatley
Jul 5th, 2008, 10:32pm
Hurrumph, since you didn't respond (take this with a grin please, I could have PMed), we played around with ideas on paper and think we have a solution. If we don't get the desired results, you will get a PM from me though :wink:. We hope to get it plumbed (needed to order a couple of parts that we could not find locally) I will post a picture and ask for your thoughts though.

Thanks,

chaostheory
Jul 13th, 2008, 01:23am
Check out this cheap DIY skimmer made out of a 5gal water container. Sits in sump. http://diyproteinskimmer.blogspot.com/

Kharn
Jul 16th, 2008, 08:33am
i wouldnt use a wetdry on a saltwater tank....


Why not ?

Animal Mother
Jul 16th, 2008, 10:13am
Why not ?

They tend to become a nitrate factory.

Kharn
Jul 16th, 2008, 07:16pm
WoW, I was under the influence ( NOW I MUST RE THINK A LOT! :sad: ) that the best Marine Filtration system available on the Market at the moment were a Wet/Dry Setup, Siiighhhh, back to the books. the only things I can see as Filtration would be 1.)Wet/Dry 2.)Canister (internal/External) 3.)Hang-on External 4.) Undergravel (which is just NO GO for Ceph's).

So :hmm: if a Wet/Dry system is not the go and you want to give your ceph an "A Class" setup what would be the best sort of Filtration to go...... SURELY it's not a Canister Filter is it?.... I mean I got nothing against them what so ever, and they are all to easy to get going. PLEASE enlighten me to the Optimum Filtration setup from the list above (1-4) OR anything I have missed please.

Cheers

Kharn
Jul 16th, 2008, 07:29pm
On a Quick note I have JUST noticed some people using canister filters for there setups like 'DocFrye' and '3000gtman' I see a Fluval, Ehiem Canister and an Ehiem Canister Wet/Dry, I thought that Wet/Dry was the best filter to go (not canister version though..).

Can anyone vouch for these filters, if a canister is the way to go for Filtration? :eek: It will only speed up the process of me getting all these things together :lol:

Animal Mother
Jul 16th, 2008, 08:29pm
Canister's need to be cleaned very often.

Why not just remove the bio-balls or whatever from the wet/dry and use it as a sump? A good skimmer and a sump with or without a refugium is the typical filtration setup for a reef tank. Really it's just a matter of opinion/preference. The sump though is basically just a place to hold more water, adding more water volume to your entire system. And if it's big enough you can hide all your equipment in there, and have a section where you can grow macroalgae to export nutrients from your water (refugium) to supplement the skimmer.

Thales
Jul 16th, 2008, 08:31pm
Wet drys tend to become nitrate factories because the 'fill up' with detritus which then rots.
Most people go with biological filtration - live rock, a sandbed or a remote sandbed - and some kind of mechanical filtration for an extra push. Any mechanical filtration can become a nitrate factory if not cleaned regularly. Canisters are nice because you can use different media and the carbon is run actively instead of passively.
A skimmer is great because it can skim out ickies and add o2 to the water.

Wet dry is fine until it isn't. Wet dry was the cephs meow for a while, but then fell out of favor. Most people rely mostly on some sort of biological filtration.

Do you have a good saltwater reef book? They should go in depth into the differences of filtration methods so you can decide what will work for you.

I run a good skimmer, biological filtration via live rock and a remote sand bed. I have a canister or two if I feel the need to polish the water or run carbon.

Thales
Jul 16th, 2008, 08:32pm
Kharn, are you still talking to that life reef guy? Stop it, he's trying to sell you his stuff! :grin:

Kharn
Jul 17th, 2008, 04:51am
yes, I have looked beyond lifereef now, thanks for the heads up tho :shock:

Kharn
Jul 17th, 2008, 05:23am
:hmm:

Ever spent a decent amount of time making your own diagrams, only to then not be able to upload them... Anyway from what 'Animal Mother' has said about removing the Bio-Balls I can do that with the current setup, I will just tell the shop to take it out.

Now that leaves me with as 'Animal Mother' said a sump, within this sump would be my Protein skimmer(with its pump), Main flow Pump and a Heater (if needed). After noticing people using canister filters aswell it got me interested in some specifically the 'Fluval Fx5', my budget is quite flexible so the setup would be a Refugium with a sump attached, a protein skimmer within the sump and this is where im not sure :hmm: the Canister leading to the sump or the Main display or ... ? Please view the photos in the 'Octopus Care' thread under 'Filters Vs Tanks'

The Refugium will hold ALL the Vegetation(s) and other creatures.

(P.S. there will be live rock in both the Refugium and Display tank)

octoloco
Jul 21st, 2008, 10:46am
If NASA can't figure out how to solve the O-ring problem on their rocket blasters, then I doubt these skimmer designers will be able to. Sorry

Thales
Jul 22nd, 2008, 10:29am
If NASA can't figure out how to solve the O-ring problem on their rocket blasters, then I doubt these skimmer designers will be able to. Sorry


I don't understand this post. :grin:

Thales
Jul 22nd, 2008, 10:32am
the Canister leading to the sump or the Main display or ... ? Please view the photos in the 'Octopus Care' thread under 'Filters Vs Tanks'

If I am understading correctly, the canister should draw from the tank where it will remove ickies from the water, and then return to the tank. In general, they need to draw and return to the same body of water so disaster doesn't strike if a pump goes out of there is a power outage.

OoNickoC
Sep 2nd, 2008, 12:48am
Just thought I would throw my change in on skimmers I've had experience with....

Hangon tank: Remora...hands down

In sump: Euro-Reef CS series , BubbleMaster, Deltec

It hasnt been yet so I thought I'ld throw out there the fact that most people dont tune thier first or even second skimmer to its potential as far as air mixture and pump force. Your skimmate should reek, not smell like algae....:sly:

mattyice
Sep 11th, 2008, 09:24am
I should of kept my ReeFlo Orca 250 :lol:

for my 125G setup (200G system, going to treat it like a 350G system due to the bioload) im going to be looking at most likely getting a bubblemaster 250, ReeFlo Orca 200, or a Reef Filtration 300S

zrider79
Sep 16th, 2008, 02:58am
i just got a mag 7 pump for a aqua c 180, it will be for a 75 gal. Ill give more feed back when in operation.