I have some Euprymna scolopes for sale if any one is interested. You can keep 2 in a 30galon no problem 1-2" sand bed and a red light for night time viewing. Very small the size of a grape. 70-73F Email me directly for more info. theshark.javanet@rcn.com
http://www.longarmlabs.com/longarmlabs001003.jpg

Very nice! If I wasn't in the process of building a tank for a bimac, I would be interested...neat little cephs! Congratulations!
greg

Neato...looks cool. :wink:

wad are they cuttles or octopus? and where r u from? i might be intrested...
:smile:

lucky you, they they are those bob tail squid or something?
Too bad I live in Asia and nothing imports cephs here except for the local sushi shop

They are the Hawaiian Bobtail Squid - tiny little guys, adult size a little more than one inch. They are night active and they have a light organ.

Nancy

NANCY!

no need to insult them

Dan :razz:

They are about the size of a grape, The small ones are the size of a coffee bean. Some mated last night and layed eggs this morning. They are extremely cool and very very hard to come by. They are very interesting to watch hunt with a red light on the tank. During the day, you can only see eyes sticking out of the sand. There are some more pics on my home page. I must say all though tiny, they are extremely exciting to watch. It blows your mind to have this tiny little squid hunting right before your eyes.
chris

hi chris.

have these been CB?

nice to see something else cephy out there

Hi colin
Eggs were laid today so it will be a couple of months before the captive reared ones are ready, provided all goes well. The ones I have for sale right now are wild caught and very small. Coffee bean size. And I must say they are very cute little cephs.
chris

Hi Chris,

Found your website interesting - good photos! I wish you great success with the eggs - maybe it won't be too long before you'll be offering captive bred Euprymna scolopes .

In the meantime, maybe some of our TONMO people will be interested in the ones you have for sale. What is their lifespan? What are they eating now?

Nancy

Thanks Nancy
Their life span is under 6 months and they are eating small live shrimp about 1" in length. Very cool hunters jumping out of the sand to snag their prey. I am adding some new pics to my site later of night time breeding.
chris

Did a quick search on Google.com.
It says that it a Hawaian Bobtail Squid.

A breeding picture. http://www.longarmlabs.com/longarmlabs002002.jpg

Tell me your prices! I´m sure that I´m going to buy you 2 or 3 Euprymna Scolopes.
My e-mail: WeyRey@hotmail.com Thanks!

It can be a little difficult to raise when they hatch they are small and need really small food I use zooplankton for the first couple of weeks then switch to mysids.

What species of zoo plankton do you use? Whats your loss? I have lots of Harpacticoida. http://www.longarmlabs.com/longarmlabs001004.jpg

Wow :shock: those are awesome little things, I would absolutely love to get one, too bad its not really a possibility.... Nice pics :grin:

zooplankton.....how do you get those? Like do you but them from shops or do you need something else? I want one of those squids too you know...

I collected the zooplankton my self so it is a mixture of species, The loss rate can be high if not given constant care when they first hatch with deaths attributed to lack of food. They also need a upwelling tank for the first couple of weeks because they are in a planktonic phase.

Do you think a kriesel work?

Most likely, but depends on the design. I can't really go into detail what I use, it's kind of a secret, but if you have any questions I will try my best to answer them.

Ok, thats cool. I am actually using a method developed at Woods Hole.

I've spent four months trying to optimize survival during the paralarval phase of E. scolopes with no great success! You should be happy if you get 20% survival. The problem in this species and most other cephalopod with planktinic hatchlings is that it's very hard to induce feeding. Personally, I've tried feeding them copepods but with no success, even after having enriched them with selco! However, I've seen (and filmed) relatively large mysids being often captured by one-day old hatchlings but unfortunately the majority did not feed. The only published studies with high survival was by feeding mysids and not copepods (hanlon et al 1997; claesand dunlap,2000).
I found that feeding very small amounts as often as possible trigger feeding and increases survival. Also try your best to avoid premature hatching, and keeping prey and hatchlings suspended in the water column is also v. important

Anyway, i could go on and on
good luck qnd
keep us posted on your progress

how does a mysid look like?

a mysid is a very small crustacean that looks like a shrimp postlarvae when adult. the species I used was 3-4 mm total length.

We use mysids after feeding plankton.

Positively wicked thread!!! Upwelling? Exactly what do you mean? Have you a spray bar at the bottom of the tank, or some other device that gives you a uniform upwelling current? Is cylindrical essential for these guys?

Cylindrical is indeed essential to keep the paralarvae constantly swiming. It is good to avoid small spaces such as right angles in rectangular chambers because they attract the tiny hatchlings (~2 mm ML) and then swim crazily against the corners leading to skin damage.
Upwelling or any kind of generated inflow that keeps the hatchlings and prey suspended in the water strongly enhance predator-prey encounter especially when you use benthic mysids as food for planktonic hatchlings!

Cylindrical!?! Please, no. That would mean that my dreams of having squid tanks (and bob-tail squids) have been postponed again, darn.
I though only squids need a cylindrical tank, but NOW you tell me I also need that for bob tails.

het ly friend don't panick :wink:! its only when rearing the juveniles that you need cylindrical. You can keep adults in rectangular tanks no problem. you just need athick layer of substrate for them to burry during the day.

Oh ok, any type of sand I should avoid? I currently have roughly looking coarse sand (might be from coral)

I fine sand would be better.

Thanks
Anyone want to sponser my 'changing sand' activity?

Update:
Our first clutches of eggs started to hatch last night! They are small about the size of a BB. I will keep you up to date as things progress. We have many clutches of eggs with more being laid every day so this is going to be exciting!

That's exciting!! Any pics???

Hi Chris
great news..... but what is a BB????? Hope its not something too obvious LOL

cool mate! you must be as excited as I was! cute lil guys aren't they?
how many days did did it take before the first hatched?

what is a BB?????

The little copper beads that go in a Red Rider Air-Rifle, or "BB" gun
about 1/16" or 1mm diameter.

BB is the shot size

You'll shoot your eye out!!!!!!! :wink:

Guess BB guns (rifles) are specifically American - all the kids I grew up around had them. I shared the gun with my brother. And all the comic books had ads for Red Ryder BB guns.

Nancy

This is extremely exciting! They are really strong swimmers from birth.
They took 26 days to hatch at 72F. Hatching occured after complete darkness. The first clutch never hatched so these are from the second clutch. I am not sure what happend but we did some different things and that seemed to help. Hopefully the other clutches will hatch just as well.
I have some pics but they are sooooo small the pictures are not very good. I do have a cool film of a adult eyprymna snagging a high speed shrimp filmed under red lights. I also have lots of egg pictures. The clutches are coverd with sand by momma squid to give them a bit of camo. I will try to post more pics and a movie on my web site soon. I haven't had much time to up date it or work on it lately but will try and get to it soon.
chris

Hi Chris,

Thanks for sharing the details of this project! Hope this clutch does really well. Will look forward to pics of the little guys.

From your website, it looks like you're going into the breeding business in a big way.

Nancy

Thanks for the info, keep us posted!

So how's your little hatchlings doin???

So far so good, hatching going on every day. The first ones are are growing and have doubled in size. They have lots of different foods and seem to be content.

it sounds like you have done this before? They are definitely nice! Pity they only live 5-6months...ahh well.

The pics are good but are they a little washed out? Or are the cephs not hosting the symbiotic critters whioch make them look green? (or am i wrong...lol)

very very cool!

They adults in the pics harbor vibrio fischeri. The hatchlings do not yet.
I have breed and reared octopus before , but the squid are a first for me.

so will the hatchlings get the bacteria or whatever from the parents or will they not get them ever unless they are in the wild?

The hatchlings need to be introduced to natural seawater that has not been sterilized and still has the live bacteria vibrio fischeri present.

Any updates? I'm very interested in picking up a pair when the hatchlings become available.

Pricing? What have you been feeding the adults?

Shoot me a PM!

what would the pricing be like? I take it they can exist in groups then? Have you tried keeping them with nonaggressive fish?

We had unfortunate mishap that was out of my control that wiped out all the adults and the ones that have hatched so far.. So currently the euprymna project is down. There are still eggs that have not hatched. If they were not effected and those eggs hatch I will let you know. In any event I will be attempting this again in the future at some point... I am not a easily discouraged!

:sad: What happened?

Carol

aww that sounds terrible but as you say dont be disheartened!!! Perhaps the eggs do hatch! GOOD LUCK!

And visit this mans site!!! lol - it has some great pictures thoguh i dont believe the content is all finished? Anyway i suspect the bobtails were getting more of his attention!

As i said good luck with the eggs and sorry to hear about the losses! Dont give up

Good luck, I hope the eggs hatch. I'll have a 90 gallon waiting for some when you are able to sell them.
Ed